A11 Offense

[SupaBwandin]

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/A-11.png[/img]

I think a variation of this offense could be fun to watch.

It has the defense guessing more than usual; first, which QB is snapped the ball. Next, any trickery involving the other QB, and at the same time, they have to worry about the actual recievers and their coverages.

Im not sayin we abuse this formation, jus whip it out and suprise some teams

[theFRANCHISE]

The surprise element is taken out, though, because eligible receivers at positions which aren't usually eligible must check in with the ref -- who then announces the eligibility for everyone to hear. It defeats the purpose of the defense guessing which receivers are actually involved in the play. Not only that, but it's extremely gimmicky; NFL defenses are much faster than high school defenses, obviously, and can therefore shut it down more efficiently. Just look at what speed did to the Wildcat offense when the Ravens played the Dolphins.

[ravensfan160]

Why not! Cam Cameron is know for his gimmicks. Anything that will get Troy Smith on the field is fine by me.

[Geno the booter]

interesting philosophy, but the Patriots use this formation in their version of the wild cat. Remember Cassel and Faulk throwing passes to Deion Branch?

[lgcs27288]

I say we test it out on the Lions

[Skaught]

What Franchise said. The NFL is too fast. There would never be a pass for more than 5 yards because defenses would be able to rush to the QB so easily. Plus, there would be too many bodies over the middle to give a clear shot to a receiver.

Neat diagram, though.

[neepo13]

A simple all out blitz would stop that right in its tracks. With only 3, possibly 4 blockers, someone will get there before the ball can be thrown.

[heapitup247]

[quote name='neepo13' date='30 July 2009 - 02:56 PM' timestamp='1248980207' post='211785']
A simple all out blitz would stop that right in its tracks. With only 3, possibly 4 blockers, someone will get there before the ball can be thrown.
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A screen would prolly work well. This formation is pretty much built for the screen.

Its a fun formation for high school, and ive used it before with some success, but once you see it once its simple to defend. But for that first couples time, it works, or it makes them use a timeout. Just go with the 3 man d line, spread the linebackers out and make sure you keep track of the recievers. The outside limemen become useless for a regular pass. Id imagine every NFL players seen it before in some form or another

[plesiosaur]

You'd have to have a really fast offense to pull this off. I watched some youtube of the A 11 last year. It is a great surprise but as noted above, that surprise is lost because of the reporting rules.

Turns out there's another reason it would be difficult to use the A 11 in the NFL:

[quote]At the moment, NFL rules stand in the way. There's no scrimmage kick exception on the books. And as a result of arcane regulations, any lineman reporting as an eligible receiver has to sit out the next play

[theFRANCHISE]

The inherent problem with most trick plays and gimmick formations is that they take more time to develop than a usual play. Before the snap, there's a lot of movement that isn't allowed in the NFL (only one player can go in motion pre-snap), and even without that movement, some of the plays take [i]more[/i] time for the receivers and/or the QB to find the eligible receivers downfield.

Also, look at this [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxZpyMn8lgA"]YouTube[/url] highlight reel. If you pay attention, notice how close a lot of those plays were; the idea of a trick play is to catch the defense off-guard and get receivers open downfield, right? There were quite a few pass plays in that reel where the defender could've easily picked the ball off if it was the NFL. Even though the defense is always at a disadvantage against speed (after all, they play with their backs turned), defenses are still faster in the NFL than on any other level. No matter how good the QB, receivers will always have a hard time making those tight catches with defenders on them like white on rice.

And again, the surprise element, as I said before, is taken out because the defense and everyone in the stands will know who the eligible receivers are due to NFL rules stipulating that eligible receivers must check in with the referee, who then must announce it.

Bottom line: it wouldn't work in the NFL.

[Geno the booter]

Hmm, to play in the NFL does someone have to be a human being, or could we send an air bud out on the field and just have guys protect him as he runs out for the catch?

[lgcs27288]

[quote name='Geno the booter' date='30 July 2009 - 05:21 PM' timestamp='1248988895' post='213439']
Hmm, to play in the NFL does someone have to be a human being, or could we send an air bud out on the field and just have guys protect him as he runs out for the catch?
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Funny that you say that, I was throwing a flat football to my dog earlier today

[shaikh015]

[quote name='ravensfan160' date='30 July 2009 - 02:29 PM' timestamp='1248978598' post='211777']
Why not! Cam Cameron is know for his gimmicks. Anything that will get Troy Smith on the field is fine by me.
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I think TRoy might get one a lot next year...TWo quarterback Tossup is like what most NFL teams are doing next year...