2 hours ago, jazz1988 said:I don' I don't get how me mentioning Kendrick Lewis being traded to The Houston Texans should be considered at the level of me playing Madden or Fantasy. I gave you a solid reason why Lewis would be a favorite candidate for The Houston Texans in a trade because not only is he a favorite of The Texans defensive coordinator( i proved that) but he also would be upgrade for them at strong safety... I'm not really concerned about Eric Weddle health and I know Ladarius Webb has health issues but I haven't heard much news of him getting hurt at all in training camp so far, which is good news in it self because usually even in training camp he misses practice time here and there due him nursing a injury.
Fans may dislike Elam and Brooks but it doesn't change the fact that they are The Ravens first and third rounder . Elam just recently had his best training camp today to go along with his good performance in the last preseason game in which The Ravens played in. As I said before if Elam and Brooks continue to practice and play well especially in Kendrick Lewis absence then I don't see how it's so unbelievable and more to believe that Lewis may be the odd man out which may lead to him being cut or traded. No general manager ever wants to give up on their first ,second and third round pick and so far Elam and Brooks have not been bad at all in training camp or preseason. What makes you think both can't play just as well as Lewis if call upon to do so along with them bringing more to the defense because their versatility? If The Ravens got a sixth round pick for Lewis then that's a plus because honestly I don't really expect them drafting awhole lot of players next season after they drafted like 11 players this year especially since most of them are expected to make the team. So what ever they could get for Lewis can be use in a trade in next year draft.
what i dont get though is why you think the texans would want to trade for lewis - if we were going to get rid of him, then we'll cut him in which case they don't have to give up anything, and i think you are over egging the romeo crenell thing... he's not the general manager and i don't think their strong safety situation is that bad - certainly not bad enough to trade away a sixth or seventh rounder
lewis is more likely to be cut than traded if he doesnt make it on this team which i think is highly unlikely given his experience and that he'd be playing a backup role which is all the more crucial given how fragile webb has proven to be in the past
this assumes that harbs or anyone actually wants to get rid of lewis in the first place
47 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:Man I really like the guy and I think he could be good but we all know the story here. If I have to choose and am only allowed one guy to be injury free between him and Pita I'll take Pita given his insane chemistry with the QB.
I don't think anyone thinks that is actually a competition - pitta isn't going anywhere, if camp is fighting anyone it is butler or Matthews
i guess i kind of am forgetting the whole agent aspect of this deal - this is a 9mill 1 year deal that an agent gets to parade around as a 6 year 92 mill deal but i dont think thats enough of a reason surely...
2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:Right but the AAV doesn't really matter. IF the Bills were to pick up his 2017 option, his guaranteed money jumps from $9.5M to $40.25M in a single offseason ($50M guaranteed for injury).
Would put him in the top half of the league in terms of guaranteed money. Not sure roughly 3,600 yards and 24 TDs is enough to warrant that type of commitment, particularly when there's no track record of winning attached to it.
Just a hunch on my part, but my tentative guess is that this contract is designed to be moved on from after this season if Tyrod doesn't blow their doors off, which he didn't do in 2015.
i dunno why they'd sign him to a new deal at all then... if he plays just average then they have to not take up the option and he could leave - they could have played him at the old contract and saved themselves a ton of money - essentially they just gave him a raise when they didnt have to unless they are seriously considering taking on the option
doug whaley seriously cant be expecting tyrod to be aaron rodgers
3 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:And I saw a tweet that Weddle was playing long snapper.
i think jerry rosberg confirmed that in his press conference today
46 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:So let's play Hard Knocks. We're both coach sitting at the table on cut-down day and we have to pound the table for our guys. Looking at the roster, even without names, just looking at the number of starters, backups needed and couple givens we know like the Ravens will keep 4TEs. I count 51 spots accounted for per position. 2QBs 1FB 4RBs 4TEs 6WRs and 8OLs. That's 25 on offense. 1K, 1P, 1LS that's 3 on ST for a total of 28. 6DL, 5OLBs, 3ILBs, 5CBs 4S. That's 23 on defense for a total of 51 spots taken. In my mind right now these are the guys I have fighting for those final 2 spots right now. Henry/KLM, Price, Canady, Camp, Reynolds, Brook/Elam, Levine, and a potential veteran swing OT. What argument would you use to pound the table for Levine to be kept as a Dimeback over these guys?
I'm pretty confident reynolds won't be kept instead of camp at this point, it'll be jeremy butler who makes it instead - reynolds is destined for the ps in my opinion, canady is probably going to phantom ir, levine is a lock pretty much - he is the second best special teams guy on this team behind albert mclellan and now that mclellan is in the running for a starter job, levine becomes even more important on special teams and no way this team keeps more than 8 OL
remember the positions only go so far, at the end of the day the coaches want the best 53 players (that's why you're saying that the ravens will keep 4rbs and 4 tes (that wouldn't make much sense otherwise)) no matter their positions to a certain extent
1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:And no, that's not what Tyrod is getting. He's getting a 1 year, $9.5M contract from another team that's not the Ravens. He's playing on a series of one year deals. Given that year 2 of that "deal" pays him $27.5M, which would be amongst the highest paid QBs in the league, he's going to have to play really, really, really well to get that. Like significantly better than he did last season.
yeah he's getting a 1 year deal, but i think it's slightly more likely the bills pick up that option if he plays similarly or slightly better than last year - yes its 27.5m in the first year but it essentially becomes like a front-loaded 5 year 85m deal which is like a 17m/year average which is pretty good value for a franchise qb which he would be if they picked up the option
so i dont think he needs to play lights out to get that option picked up - he needs to be more consistent, not miss too many games and keep that bills offence ticking over like a fair few games last year (i mean the bills did have a top 10 offence last year somehow)
but yeah tyrod is getting 9.5m whatever hapens so good for him because that's over an $8m raise for one year
12 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:Considering there's still a VERY open competition for KR/PR, Clay's injury must be significant for them to cut him at this point .
this might be one of those cases where the last couple of days are the last straws - clay fumbled, didn't have an impact as a receiver in preseason 1 and apparently had some kicks sail over his head through misjudgements in practice afterwards
37 minutes ago, Tiznut said:You know damn well what I meant. So again if he struggles next week and Danny says he told you so. You're not gonna point out how premature it is?
Of course we are, that's why we're poking fun now...
1 hour ago, Tiznut said:If you are using it to tell any poster "I told you so" then it'd be you. Hence why I notated that if he struggled people would tell Danny the same thing I told everyone else
But he didn't struggle so there's no need for this whole palava
I know it's all a bit late but this is what I saw last night from the positions I was watching...
RBs: as has been said a lot on this forum, I thought Buck looked a step slower than dixon and west but a couple of his runs look like they got blown by the blocking in front of him (to be fair it has to be said that west turned two of those types of plays into a 7 yard gain and a 3rd down conversion so by all means bad blocking is not a great excuse), Dixon looked promising but not sure about him in pass protection as to be expected from a rookie
TEs: I know Waller led the way with his catches but he wasn't as flashy as I thought he'd be but he was a matchup nightmare, albeit against 2nd and 3rd string linebackers - the thing there is that he needs to catch those things that for instance land on his chest like last night because of the part of the field he's working in he cannot afford to bobble or drop - i remember him hands catching one pass which was promising though. From what I saw, when Maxx was on the field he looked a class above the backups which bodes well. He and Boyle (and i wasnt watching them closely to be fair) looked like they were used sparingly and they looked really smooth and classy.
CBs: jimmy got beaten too easily by tedd ginn in the back of the end zone and still looks too far behind where I'd like him to be - hopefully he's still just getting rid of the nargles from his injury after getting the metal out of his foot. wright did not look as good as id hoped either, he got boxed out to easily for the touchdown and seemed to be a bit lost in his zone a couple of times. tavon looked great on special teams in coverage (a little bit like waller last year which ironically makes waller a little more expendable), sheldon price gave away that pi but he did look like a threat on the ball - i know this team emphasises not giving up the big play but if we want turnovers we have to make plays on the ball so seeing him and will davis getting really close to the ball and getting their hands in was really encouraging, arrington was disappointing as well - he seems to me like a step down from jerraud powers even though both struggled
that's just what i thought
i know its only preseason but its crazy that only 2 wide receivers made catches last night - no catches for clay, reynolds or jacobs
and 2 28s as well
Just now, Cville-Raven said:Who's 78
pierce udfa i think
lol now the carolina coverage is saying the panthers won the most important part of the game - literally clutching at straws... also forgetting literally the entire roster of players the ravens are missing
did he really lose that? i couldnt see past all the ads
it's almost like they dont care about special teams
also... flop
its funny how the carolina commentators are calling that play dangerous and uncalled for - i mean it was stupid but he caught the end of his foot by accident - it was completely unintentional and they were just talking down like they were giving some sort of stern health and safety lecture
Just now, jazz1988 said:Arthur Brown been playing well
against 3rd stringers (just a caveat)
Just now, trevorsteadman said:Still nothing has been farther than 10-15 yards. While it is working that is what hindered the offense last season. Even if you don't have a speedster take some shots in preseason.
we dont really have a qb with an arm left on the field tonight - flacco didnt start and mallet is done
1 minute ago, Cillmatic said:Crazy part is, I'm hearing that Forsett is doing even Bette me than west in training camp.
i only heard that from harbs which struck me at the time as coach speek for he's our vet starter
Just now, ludy51 said:One other thing to like so far: no injuries
you had to say it... dont jinx it
Just now, ludy51 said:Was that West or Le'Veon Bell?
was just remembering that play against us last year (only this time without the illegal holding)
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I think people are over egging his need to be versatile - the coaches love him for special teams and that's how he'll make it. Any play he can contribute on defence is a bonus in their eyes.