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Just now, Deflated Football said:

I really can't wait for Flacco to be back lol. We look so stagnant and Buck is continuing to unimpress. 

as did forsett on his whole 2 carries...

we should have taken the original 3 and out - indy has gained yards by giving us another set of 3

im getting flashbacks of last week: 2 runs for nothing and then a throw short of the sticks

Just now, balfan23 said:

Nice to hold them to a FG, but it would be better to not see the 1st string offense breeze down the field on the first possession. Still don't know what we have, because this is not our true starting D, but the secondary still remains a little scary. 

to be fair to the downfield coverage - they've been having to cover for longer than they should be expected to with no pressure - and the biggest plays were on shareece wright and jerraud whiffing

Just now, OUravensfan said:

Is Flacco playing? Still unknown?

he's not dressed

im going to be looking out to see how jimmy smith does in the first couple of drives and how zach orr is getting on then further into the game im looking out to see if willie henry and matt judon flash again and see if chris moore can get into the game

25 minutes ago, lgcs27288 said:

Call it what you want... but I'm just trying to see some consistency here.

 

What does Cary Williams have to do pre-season game 1? What about starting two of him!? Also, as far as Im concerned, unless we won a Super Bowl and Jimmy Smith had his Lisfranc injury all in pre-season game 1, what does that have to do with anything?

 

What the heck indeed...

Two words: Matt Elam

or at least I think it all related to him 

37 minutes ago, mearzunkies said:

Camp has shown he cannot do those exact things. I like him but he just always has some kind of issue. Some players play through injuries better then others. IMO Camp does not ply through them very well.

To be fair, he's not given an option to play through because he keeps getting pulled - you think camp, knowing that injuries are a hindrance to him getting on the roster would let a niggle keep him out?

1 hour ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

I agree. It was one of the worst draft classes ever. #2 overall pick Luke Joekel = bust (now at LG), #3 Dion Jordan = bust, #5 Mingo = bust, #8 Tavon Austin = bust, #9 Dee Milliner = bust, #11 DJ Fluker = bust, #12 DJ Hayden = bust, #16 EJ Manuel = bust, etc, etc, etc. I count maybe 30 guys in the entire draft class that are quality starters. Every LB in that draft except Jamie Collins has been a bust. Despite Elam & Brown, the Ravens were one of the only teams that got 2 legit starters from that draft (BWill & Wagner).

I don't think tavon Austin was a bust - he's still a multi-threat player - he's just utilised incorrectly and is a little underappreciated

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

Could he? Yes.  But I don't think 4 games of double digit carries makes him an obvious workhorse, but that's just me. 

But he did look good as a starter - remember he didn't take over from Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington until later in the season

and being a workhorse in modern nfl is about staying on the field which means being effective out of the backfield and in pass protection so that you don't have to come off the field which he very much did for the cards

With regards to Elam and brown, I always look at the overall quality of that draft as a whole which was terrible and I'm thankful that Ozzie whiffed on a year where the herbal quality was poor rather than a good crop

22 hours ago, usmccharles said:

 

David Johnson had 4 games of double digit carries, a total of 7 if you count receptions and carries...125 carries and 36 receptions in a year is not what I would call a "workhorse"

I think it's obvious though that he has the skill set to do it

3 hours ago, sibelius said:

I'm just excited that we're looking at a team with the talent to have four legitimate deep threats. On top of that, we have enough talent to make game-changing plays at every level of the offense. 

Excited to see all the hard work the FO has done over the past three offseasons come to fruition. 

Wait who's the 4th? Wallace, Moore, perriman... Am I being an idiot lol? Who am I missing?

47 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

It's the shiny new toy affect. Even though West isn't new, he put in work to transform his body and he's a much different back then people saw last year and Dixon is the new exciting guy. Buck definitely has a place on this team. I don't think any of the backs are workhorses so a rotation will be really good for all of them. 

On that subject there are very few one back true workhorses in the league at the moment anyway: Adrian Peterson, David Johnson, Todd gurley, leveon bell, demarco Murray (if he's healthy) and maybe Thomas rawls(likewise) and Doug Martin

10 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

Ok if you think Lewis plays faster than Elam on the football field then we just going to have respectfully disagree on that matter.Hmmm  you either didn't watch the last preseason game or you just don't count preseason games as playing  because I'm honestly not getting your statement where you you said you haven't heard of Elam playing recently.

I'm not saying Elam has  turn a  new leaf regarding to his tackling because of preseason games especially one so far . I simply asked you have you heard of him missing any tackles lately. It's kind of like you trying to say preseason games dont carry  any weight and I would say some what yes if we talking about starters but that's not what we talking about .

John Simon is another case where he wasn't practicing well in training camp or playing well in preseason which made it hard for him to make the team.The Ravens were also crowded at the outside linebacker position as well .

I don't know what else I need to say but it's obvious you just don't like Elam and that's fine.

The thing is though, that the preseason 1 game film he's just put on is against 2nd and 3rd stringers who won't ever sniff real football, so in all reality the last meaningful game tape he has is from the playoff run where he and rashaad melvin got roasted continuously and he lost his regular season starting job because of tackling issues

if Elam earns his way onto the roster then fine but there's no way we get rid of Lewis just so that we make space for him to grow into

28 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

To be fair, and in all practicality(other than contractually) Elam is a third year player.  And to repeat an earlier post, he was  pretty horrible in 2014 while playing out of position, but also pretty respectable as a rookie, when I think he started all 16 games. Not a big stretch to believe that he will improve and be a valuable contributor to the defense this year. 

i think a lot of people have vastly overrated elam's rookie season just because of how bad huff was... he was still negatively graded for the whole season and we are pointing to that season as a sign of hope... id love it if he could take the step but he hasnt shown any reason he would

5 hours ago, 20306cab said:

Webb is by far their best PR, but I guess they don't want to risk it. I'd give it a shot. He'll probably get hurt playing safety anyway.

i dont know about returning but he's certainly the best at punt catching

5 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Chris Moore is back on the field.

i dont want to jinx it but it finally looks like we wont have the all-injured team of the nfl

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I wonder, honestly, why it took so long. A member said they saw him at one of the stadium practices and you'd never know he was injured.

to be specific they said you wouldnt know he was injured 'if he wasn't wearing a boot' which is the difference here

6 hours ago, cbrook1862 said:

We hear more about Urschel's success in the classroom than on the football field. He better watch his back bc Lewis is a legit contender to take his spot. IMO Urschel seems more interested in his studies than football.

what from anything you've heard anywhere makes you think that he isnt 100% committed to football

he himself has said that as soon as training camp roles around he hangs up his math until "hopefully february"

and do you remember what he wrote in the wake of chris borland's early retirement? he said he knew he shouldnt play football but he loved it too much - that doesnt sound like a guy who's more focussed on studies than football

5 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

He's WAY too valuable imo. I think Dixon is our best all around rb.

not that i dont want this to be the case but how can you say that after about 8 snaps in one preseason game against 3rd stringers?

6 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

We're talking about a role that's only being practiced with the 3rd team defense. Doesn't sound like a big part of the defense to me. 

it may have to begin with, but look at the other players on the field when levine nearly made the int - it looked like he played dime throughout last night from the starters to the 3s so i think it's not that useful to just take into account the one report that he was practicing with arthur brown earlier in camp when that doesnt look like the case anymore

6 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

No. I'm referring to his upright running style and the fact that he gives little to no effort to lower his pads to churn for extra yardage. He is fast for his size, but is also weak for his size because he runs high and with low effort. The small sample size from the last time we saw him looked better than his rookie year, but prior to that he ran soft for the most part. 

I don't know what you're seeing..

i remember seeing some nice flashes from lt where he finished off plays his rookie year - not so much last year though

it feels like every year we bring in a new rb and the media goes crazy that they are gonna be the next superstar workhorse and then they kind of drift into the ether lt, then buck and now kd each pushing the one before into obscurity

8 hours ago, lgcs27288 said:

Last year felt nothing like that, especially after Perriman went down.

except we didnt know breshad would be out for the whole season at that point

22 minutes ago, ravens rule said:

If we stay pretty healthy this could be the best depth team we ever had. 

Doesn't it always seem that way until the season starts?