lol qadry ismail just referred to joe flacco as "the young quarterback"
3 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:1. Lions offense makes Ravens defense look like high school team. I am an optimist on these boards but if you look at our inactives of Brandon Williams and our top three outside linebackers. Unless the Ravens can control the run without B Wil and get pressure on Stafford with Judon it will be a secondary's nightmare tonight.
not particularly bold to be honest... almost expected at this point
6 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:just curious,but if a guy takes your jersey,doesn't that mean he shut you down? like a notch on your gun belt? he ain't gettin my jersey unless he proves he can own it! dudes stupid.
I dunno why all the hatred for slay here, it strikes me as a respectful kind of gesture one where rivalries end at the end of a game and respect takes over from there. I'm pretty sure it's not a notch thing.
3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:Yes, but only ONE person can do that. You don't have to designate ahead of time, but as others have said, if a starting caliber player ends up going on IR with say a 6-8 week injury early in the season, he's probably going to be the preferred person to designate as "return" over somebody like Elam.
The only way I see Elam coming back is if he recovers relatively quickly AND we have no other key injuries to starting players that could return later in the season.
I don't think anyone's arguing with that, especially given that he didn't get the designation last year when they had to pre-announce it
2 hours ago, FerrariFan87 said:Perriman looked great, and he just looked fast. Can't wait to see him run his first Go Route.
I can't wait for his first live snap even if he whiffs a block on a run play that goes nowhere near him
5 hours ago, Newsome is Awesome said:Sounds like you're quoting history. Very similar words to what a former Secretary of Defense used.
Bad decisions regarding personnel are bad decisions regarding personnel. Sometimes the leaders are the problem.
maybe they are (i doubt it) but what's the point in rooting against your own team even if you have bad leadership - you might as well, i dunno, support a different team? if people gave up on teams with bad leadership then half the teams in the league wouldnt have any fans at all - especially the browns
1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:I didn't really see the point in putting Urban on the designated list before Week#1 - and I don't see the point in doing the same with Elam. The designated tag is pretty precious, as you can only use it once per season... Let's suppose Flacco gets injured Week #5, and is projected to have to miss 4-5 weeks... or Suggs... or Weddle... without the designated tag you either have to IR them or keep them on the active roster, taking up a precious roster spot in vain during that span... Just rmember how good it was that when Ray Lewis went down in the middle of the 2012 season, the designated tag was still available, so he could be stashed on it until the playoffs...
yeah the ir boomerang tagging has changed this year
you dont need to specify who now until you activate one - so you just ir everyone and then pick who to boomerang
1 hour ago, PurplenBlackFan2392 said:Anyone Can LOOK Great in Shorts & No Pads Lol
Ok but what about the rest of it?
It almost feels like some of you don't want perriman to work out through sheer pride or something. Give the kid a chance, he's had two injuries and only one of them has kept him out of any games so far. Give him a break, it's not his fault that his injury was repeatedly misreported...
5 minutes ago, RayRocks said:Just to play devil's advocate, I actually think it may be more likely that they carry the 4 TE's and only 4 RB's (including Juice), rather than 5 RB's.
We pretty much know that Dixon is a lock for the roster because he's looked so good in camp and pre-season and he was a recent 4th round pick, and we assume West and Forsett are locks, although I really don't think that Forsett is a lock to make that team and he could be shopped or cut if they feel comfortable with the other backs on the team. I honestly am not even sure that Juice is a lock to make it, although I think it's fairly likely. I don't want to lose him, but I could see Buck being cut or traded.
There seem to be just as many, if not more "ifs" about the RB group than there are about the TE's, and it's FAR easier to find capable RB's during the season than it is to find capable TE's.
im pretty confident juice is a lock because of the way they are not really using him in preseason - he comes out with the starters plays a few snaps and then clocks off for the night
im pretty sure buck, and dixon are locks and forsett is pretty much ingrained as the starter until he gets beaten out or gets injured, so west would be the odd man out and i always thought he'd have to have an amazing camp to make the roster which he appears to have had - which means for me he has either done enough and we carry 5 (including juice) or he hasnt in which case he gets cut
in my head, i imagine they'll maybe play the potential matchups but i know its more likely that it'll be a particular tight end that ends up 4th on the depth chart
Just now, rmcjacket23 said:Damned either way really. Its hard to envision Pitta being a healthy scratch, but then again, its not a good look when Maxx Williams is a 2nd round draft pick and is a healthy scratch in year 2 on a weekly basis.
That's basically Art Brown territory at that point.
albeit he has already proven himself a - to a certain extent - effective receiver
1 minute ago, rmw10 said:Yep. Only 46 spots on gameday. The negative to Pitta is that he's not a ST guy.
on the flipside if he's healthy enough to be an option he is likely good enough to start which means i see either maxx or crockett spending time inactive
1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:Elam injury might change things, since it opens up a spot in the interim, but the idea of carrying 4 active TEs plus 2 other TEs on suspension (Boyle and Waller) might not exactly be ideal for roster construction.
We've already assumed that they'll carry 5 RBs (including Juice), which is more than typical as well.
Plus, me personally, I'm more interested in gameday roster construction. I can't see 5 RBs being active on gameday, nor can I see 4 TEs being active on gameday. Watson and Gillmore would seem likely the likeliest two guys to be "locks" for gameday (barring injury of course), so I would suspect that between Pitta and Maxx, if both healthy, one would not be active.
i hate the fact that you are always right lol
3 minutes ago, balfan23 said:Its more than the fact that he's a 1st rounder, but that is definitely a factor. Had he gone down in camp last year and we knew from day one (as we did with KLM and Urban) that he was out for the year, there would be nowhere near the same amount of screeching over him. It was the constant waiting for him to be ready and then having him not be that was driving people crazy.
that's my point - nobody's looking at him with hindsight - we look at urban as unlucky whereas perriman is apparently injury prone yet they had similar injuries
1 minute ago, Wildabeast88 said:No still just one but you don't have to designate which player. I thought they changed it but I guess only talked about it.
i think it's one of those where eventually it will be more than one player (it only makes sense) and will happen as inevitably rosters expand as well (makes even more sense)
34 minutes ago, PurplenBlackFan2392 said:This is JMO But I really feel like we need to just get rid of Perriman, I really feel like he will Become another Mark Clayton when he does play, IF he Ever Plays....Trying real hard not to call him a bust &/or Support him when for two years now he gets hurt & has yet to take the field....we just suck at drafting WRs in the draft...again JMO
you wanna let go of a first rounder that we only drafted last year? who by all accounts looked great in both offseasons before he got injured? you're not even curious to see if he can play at all - you just wanna get rid? Nobody said cut KLM or cut Urban and they were gone much longer than perriman. The team didnt even cut Elam after playing awfully his second year and then getting injured.
49 minutes ago, omar586 said:i would keep him on PUP list , i wouldn't rush him , we also need the roster spot to see how good the other WRs, guys like butler looked good.
cant go back on pup now that he's off it - they must be pretty confident he's coming back
2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:I just wish him the best moving forward. I really feel for the kid. I'm sure he feels the pressure intended or otherwise. I just want him to ease into playing full speed so he is as successful as he is destined to be.
what's crazy is that he's missed only one year so far - more than KLM, more than Urban etc did before they played in a game and yet he's under the cosh (i know its because hes a 1st rounder but still... its vaguely insane)
1 minute ago, Deflated Football said:Senior, Wallace, Aiken, Camp and BP would be a nightmare for opposing defenses. My goodness, I hope this is the year our WR group can stay intact
dont forget moore if he works out
19 hours ago, balfan23 said:Maybe ... I hope not. Personally, I think the guy could use the work and experience. It so often seems like when we do that, the guy we IR never really comes back and can contribute. I think Canady is playing pretty well so far and would like to see him grow. Our CB corps isn't exactly all what you'd call rock solid, so any potential help he could bring later in the season, will be worth the wait. Hopefully this is just going to be a rest for a week type thing.
butler came back well...
Just now, Purple_City39 said:They have to play within their perceived skill level though. For example, in his prime Chris McAlister played close because he knew he could successfully jam the receiver and that he had the recovery speed to catch up if he didn't. Samari Rolle played off because he knew speed wasn't his best friend but his reaction time to shorter routes was top notch. A DC would be stupid to tell a CB to play at a specific distance if that CB isn't comfortable there.
Now an argument can be made for the type of coverage being called. It's extremely rare to see a CB close to the line on a cover 1 or cover 0 unless they are extremely confident in themselves. So I can see arguments about Pees not calling enough over the top coverage that will allow CBs to play closer, but not that he's telling them to play x amount of yards off
what i meant was, he doesnt seem to be coaching players to play this way - they are all too comfortable giving away that buffer when we know jimmy (for example) can jam effectively at the LoS and has done in the past successfully
players playing badly obviously is on the players first - but when their methods are continually unsuccessful that does have to come onto the coaching too
i however am of the opinion that it is not all pees fault - im just considering the ways you could maybe blame him for the 10 yard drop (which i hate, but understand the reasons for it for the mostpart)
39 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:I know exactly what I don't like. These guys have daily access to training camp and they have no better views and opinions then we share here in the Flock. I would much rather create our own broadcast team with some of the members here and just do a podcast of breaking down the game live.
I also feel those guys have a responsibility to educate the casual fan on the game more than just highlights. But that's a pet peeve I have about the entire industry.
But all in all it just seems like they don't know the team nor the game. When they credited Mallett for throwing Aiken open on the TD I was done. Mallett was late on the throw, Aiken was wide open and the ball was behind him. Also I swear Bart Scott was credited for a tackle, but my volume was low so I wasn't sure.
what i hate about the local beat writers on some of their opinions etc. is that they just parrot each other which is useless to a foreigner like me who can't go down to practices so the only things i see are the "highlights" or the preseason games to work out myself what's going on
some of the members of this forum carry opinions in very educated ways that as a relative newcomer to the game have taught me a lot how to think about football and in particular free agency and offseason related things
i would subscribe to that podcast in a hearbeat as the only thing that gets me close to consistently trustworthy (or in hindsight correct) analysis i find, weirdly, is the around the nfl podcast but it is for the whole nfl so is far too broad for the ravens-centric analysis I'd like
9 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:Because I see this mentioned a lot, do people not realize that the DC doesn't tell corners how far or close to line up?
probably not - although up to a certain point you could argue if they've been doing it for seasons uncorrected then if they are lining up at an undesirable depth then they should have been coached better (which you could blame on the DC and the secondary coaches) - or they are where they are supposed to be in which case you can also blame the DC if you disagree with that philosophy lol
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and they kicked it straight out the endzone again