rossihunter2

I agree, this draft has a lot of depth of talent after the top 8 players or so - the dropoff is not huge from the 15th to 40th best players in the draft so any top 50 pick is incredibly valuable this year - in lieu of getting one of the top guys, more picks in the early second could be more franchise changing than banking on one superstar in the first 6 picks

they drafted one that we then took (via a few other clubs) justin forsett also no one considers that zeke might be the next trent richardson lol

then next off season they are all found in Vegas drunk, stoned and hallucinating respectively and separately all claiming they are staying with their 'bro' Von Miller

wow - i think there might be anarchy in baltimore if this happened

i doubt they trade back for cook - they could get paxton lynch in a trade back if they swap with the dolphins or even the titans... as long as they pick in the top 15 they should be able to get lynch if they want him so i see no reason for them to trade back for connor cook - he's not even the 4th best qb in the draft and they should easily get him in the 2nd... and if they don't he wasn't worth the pick he was picked with (even the 2nd is rich for him) this just sounds like one of your aforementioned darts although i guess if there was one team that would do this it would be the browns

of course he was - but the seahawks didn't go to the superbowl until three years after he joined and his impact as a rookie for the bills didn't revitalise their season the year he was drafted while he was the driving force for the seahawks offense in those runs, they were riding off the back of a scoring defense that was dominating the league in a way that was comparably dominant to the 85 bears and 2000 ravens he was a nice addition to those seahawks but i bet they're glad they drafted the defensive guys they did

i agree, and in any case, trends do not really come into it, the ravens will take the top player on their board regardless of need because we don't want to be "win now" we want to consistently win. It's not about who might get us close this year, it's about who could become a cornerstone for the foreseeable future

immediately? probably not any - there's a reason why they are drafting in the top 10 and it's because there are multiple holes on their team i'll throw something slightly different back... how many genuine contenders in that same period didnt have solid offensive lines or playmakers in the secondary?

the timing of this announcement is just too convenient for my taste - for new information to come out a day or two before the draft suggests teams trying to get players to drop to me - the knee maybe a problem but if he really was on most teams sub-boards then he wouldn't still consistently be mocked in the top 10 at this late point this isn't new information to the teams because they will have wrapped up and done their medical assessments of jack ages before now so I infer then that this is a "new" leak - when jaylon smith was confirmed to definitely be out for 2016 he went flying down boards from the late 1st to the late 3rd / 4th at the earliest there has been no such backlash on jack so it sounds to me like scaremongering from teams who want jack to fall to them

AP is a great player of course, but I'd much rather have a pro bowler at linebacker or tackle or corner or rusher than an all pro at running back

the eagles have already said they're taking a qb and you better think they're being serious coz sam bradford believes them and wants a trade which means the 49ers aren't trading up

i agree, ashawn robinson or chris jones or andrew billings or vernon butler could all drop out of the first

ravens always go bpa so if there's a run on cb, better graded players at other positions will fall

here's the mock draft one: http://www.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304431104579550083354271384?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304431104579550083354271384.html they are all mostly garbage albeit walterfootball is also at the top of this one

although, be careful - that article was about rumours - there is a separate one for mock draft success

i think he's the second best interior offensive lineman in the draft, i don't think he makes it out of the first because there are two or three teams in need of a centre in the latter half of the draft who cannot afford to wait and see if he makes it to their pick in the second - i think someone pulls the trigger on him in the first round

i could see your first 5 picks working but after that you go a little awol lol - charles tapper and cyrus jones are picks i'd be incredibly happy with if we could get both in the 4th round

no need to take him in the 4th, there's still some good players and gems in the 4th - he'll definitely be around in the 6th anyway, or at least ill be very surprised if he's not but pick #136 is a bit rich for my blood

probably why they want loads of picks... so many holes

1.) elite or not, flacco is a franchise qb so you have to pay him like a franchise qb which means you pay him whatever it takes to keep him because what's the alternative? overpaying brian hoyer and going 9-7 at best... yuck 2.) josh norman's deal was extortionate - yes he was an all-pro but he came out of nowhere, and dave gettleman's confidence in letting him go as well as Carolina's supposedly cb proof defense suggests that norman might be a system cb anyway - certainly not worth the patrick peterson, richard sherman, darelle revis money he got 3.) there's no harm in bringing trent richardson into camp as long as he doesn't become a disruptive influence - you'll note that the front office didn't sign him until he lost the weight he needed to. Yes much of that is down to his need to be in better physical condition, but more importantly for me is it demonstrates a desire to play football and work for a chance to be on a team. So this is a no risk signing - if it doesn't work out, he gets cut, if it does work out, then the ravens just got a good rb for very little money - at worst he's a warm camp body 4.) you're right that our recent drafts have been bad, but we have brought in some good free agents (even if they are older), are you really telling me you didn't want justin forsett resigned, or steve smith around or even chris canty on ravens friendly deals for the mostpart and with regards to the bad cap situation - the Pitta deal was too risky and could be suggested was an avoidable mistake, but a lot of our problems came from dead money: most of that was from the ray rice firing - now as much as ray has been victimized and maybe deserves a second chance given the treatment of greg hardy and ben roethlisberger etc, his actions left the team no choice but to cut him and I don't think anyone could really argue otherwise 5.) to argue this team is going in the wrong direction could be justified, but I'm looking at the core of this team and seeing that 2/5 of our starting o line is on rookie contracts and 5/7 maybe even 6/7 of the starting front 7 on the defense are on rookie contracts - that to me sounds like a team that's building in the right way, the sustainable way - in the trenches and through the draft 6.) it seems hypocritical to ask for pac man when you don't want us to get older through free agency - also we want to cut down on penalties because they lose games... or did you not see pac man gift wrap the steelers their victory in the playoffs 7.) yes webby and eugene are injury prone, but jimmy's injury was a freak injury as were a lot of the injuries last year - you cannot predict when a player will be injury prone either - look at perriman, his injury came seemingly out of nowhere but who can really say - i could be completely wrong

i really do hope he's not off the board, he's got tremendous upside - i imagine that both of those meetings may have been centered on his efforts to combat addiction and insuring against relapse

it's kind of got to the point where there isn't much more to discuss lol, people have their preferred prospects and hopeful outcomes that have been carefully researched and reinforced over months - everyone's mind is set in some way or other we do really just need thursday night to be here already

you're absolutely right of course - and the debate is kind of defunct anyway because we shouldn't be debating who we would take but who is the better player because when it comes down to it, the ravens are gonna go bpa so the best player left will be the one we take - it doesn't matter if tunsil or ramsey are the bigger need because we aren't drafting for need even if it is hard to forget about that aspect of every pick

for me it'll probably be a trench guy because people always reach on pass rushers and corners at OL: cody whitehair, ryan kelly at DL: andrew billings, ashawn robinson, chris jones maybe nkemdiche of course those aren't the sexy picks - and we may have some players who might be available here rated higher - sua cravens might be rated high on the ravens board or a wide receiver might fall (although they are often reached on) i'd love it if one of the other corners was around at the beginning of the second like mackensie alexander or william jackson iii (if other gms go crazy) but i don't see it - especially as no one's going to take a defensive lineman because there is so much depth in this draft

i guess i could see cleveland trading back with miami and taking ragland or someone like that at 13