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    32 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

    Most likely there could have been.

    The one thing I will say, and I'm glad people like McShay are pointing this out on TV now, is that there is a ton of analytics out there that support the notion that the draft almost quite literally is about quantity, not quality in the long run. It sounds odd to say that, because conventional wisdom says you should always try to get the best possible players you can. 

    But long-run analysis basically shows that the teams who historically have yielded the best value from the draft picks are the one's who have the largest quantity of draft picks, regardless of round or position. Simply put... its a dart throw, and teams with the most darts to throw have a better chance at landing on something good. 

    And I think the Ravens know this (we all know they love comp picks) and that's why they are hesitant to go out there and give up two or three draft picks for a single player, and especially top 4 round picks, where historically we get great value. Its why you always see teams like NE, Seattle, Baltimore, GB, etc. trading back so often. Part of it is because they pick so late often that the value gets better, but also because they know that quantity is important.

    Well said.. this article by Barnwell I think hits the nail on the head when it comes to successfull drafting and the whole quantity vs quality debate. Good read...

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2016/story/_/id/15159462/successful-drafting-all-volume-nfl

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    5 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

    nfl tackles may be able to pick correa up with one arm if they get a piece of him. Dude weighs less than quite a few QBs. Most TE's have 10-20 lbs on him or more.

    Von miller and Khalil mack are both 6-3 250 lb but this dude who is 6-3 243lb needs to add a ton of weight to play?? What?

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    4 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

    It's like my high school ex-girlfriend.

     

    "You broke up with me. MY LIFE IS OVER"

     

    For the love of God. Can you people predict the future? If that's the case can you people send me the lottery numbers for tomorrow and the name of the next Microsoft or Apple? I'd love to invest.

     

    Stanley is instant coffee. A new left tackle? That's not a reach, he's been projected to go in the top ten for literally forever? Spence always had concerns with his character. Sure, we could be wrong, but theres some risks not worth taking. Will Hill kind of ruined that for us. If anyone, blame him. Correa provides us with pass rush instantly. He's a horrid run defender, but he's a boost. 

     

    And I didn't like Spence's tape. Notice how I never had us taking him. You people hated Crockett, CJ(myself included), Kruger, Osemele. 

     

    So shut the hell up. Sorry if I'm being blunt, but none of us know a damn thing about their careers. If Jack, as much as I love him, has one injury, then there's a massive possibility that he turns into a guy who retires after one season. Spence is a suspension away from teams never wanting him because of his past issues, as is Tunsil. 

     

    If the worst thing that has ever happened to you is this draft, and that's how literally 65% of you are acting, then I want to switch places with you. Cause you've lived the greatest lives ever

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    2 hours ago, Inqui said:

    I honestly think that a year or two in an NFL weights program (and maybe a year at LG so he can get a broader look at our playbook and improve his run blocking) will make a huge difference. I know people are miserable about the pick, but I don't care. He's a great OT and his footwork is off the freaking charts. Like you say, the difference between him and Tunsil isn't all that much, and Stanley's got a cleaner injury record and didn't have that bong video pop up.

    This... well said..

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    1 hour ago, PurplenBlackFan2392 said:

    Still feel like we wasted this damn pick....Ozzie Getting Old or Something...Off the record why can't I post in all caps or use profanity? Freedom Of Speech Or Nah? Wow.....

    Ummm, I dunno... maybe because ravens are private organization and they set the rules on what gets posted on their board (freedom of speech? lol)? You wanna curse, scream, rant and rave go scream at a mirror ... BTW Stanley looks like a great pick, is valued by NFL scouts and organizations, including ravens (which is the only thing that matters actually) so go cry some more...

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    1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

    i think it also helps you be more effective when there's a good rusher on the other side (as in 2014 with spence)

    Spence didn't play at Ohio state in 2014, was supended in fall of same year before season began... in his best season bosa didn't have a dominant pass rusher opposite him so there goes that theory.. 

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    3-4/4-3 it doesn't matter.. nickel is your base defence as there are 5 DBs on the field more than 60% of the time anyway.. this is also why having 3 good CBs is very important as your slot CB sees a lot of time on field... you can do it different ways, 4-2-5 like we did a lot of last 2 games or do something like Arizona where 6-1 215lb safety/lb hybrid is playing one of the ILB in a 3-4.. hence all the talk of shifting safety to LB and why players that can play multiple positions on the field (ramsey, jack, bosa, etc.) are coveted.. just look at what tyrann mathieu does on the field and how valuable he is to Cardinal's D.. the guy is a defensive weapon

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    22 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

    I just never understood why Upshaw never got reps playing ILBer, he no doubt has the size, and as a ILBer he would have been a tackling machine....I would at least tried him at ILBer, and moved AB outside since speed is his game,....

    Maybe because he's a 6-2 270 lb piece of granite that can't run and chase laterally or cover RBs/TEs down the field making him completely useless unless the play is coming right at him inside the tackle box? It's a passing league and even 6-2 235 lb CJ Mosley struggled in coverage last season... 

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    1 hour ago, edthehead said:

    I do believe that is behind him ( and I am sure the FO thinks so)

    Yeah, you don't know that, neither does the front office.. you are making a gross assumption about what this kid, a total stranger to us all, is all about. Addictive or not, he will have to make sound decisions every day about his choices for a long time.. sometimes old habits die hard, temptations are there, you never know. All it takes is a moment of weakness.. What's overlooked here is that he also blatantly lied about it the first time he got caught.. That combined with underwhelming combine and apparent lack of team interest on his pro day and I wouldn't be surprised if he slipped to 3rd round like Gregory last year....

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    1 hour ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

    I don't think the Ravens should select Bosa at #6 because he simply doesn't fit our scheme. I don't believe in forcing a guy to play outside of what he's comfortable with and has shown he can actually do in college. You can't take a chance on a guy like this that you are not sure 100% can drop in coverage with a 1st round pick this high in the draft.

    They tried this a few years ago with Paul Kruger who supposedly "could" drop back into coverage. At the combine they are both of similar build, Bosa is about an inch taller and about 5lbs. heavier. They both benched the same and if you look at their pro day results they ran nearly identical 40 times. Bosa scores better in the shuttle and cone drills but his draft analysis states he's a bit slow footed in change of direction; which is exactly the thing you need in pass coverage. Kruger might have been able to cover in college, but he was a liability in the NFL. Kruger didn't start to make an impact until he added a bit more weight and switched to a DE.

    If we ran a 4-3 I might be higher on him.

    I used to think the same thing until I realized 3-4/4-3 base D has been replaced by nickel as NFLs base D (around 63% of D snaps last year were with 5 DBs). So, Bosa really wouldn't be too out of place in a 4-2-5 alignment,  playing DE edge, playing OLB when we do 3-4 looks, and kicking inside at DT for obvious passing downs. We,  like rest of NFL play multiple fronts and he is athletic enough to play all 3 downs. He can't cover downhill like von Miller (not many can for that matter) but then again we don't ask Suggs and other OLBs to so that except drop into zones and flatts 10-15% of time.. Plus, he brings physicality and a little nasty to his play which is a plus.. I think he would do well in our system...

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    With the mention of how much Ravens use nickel D it might be appropriate to point out all of NFL is going nickel as base D, 63.4% plays in 2015 featured 5 DBs.. just a continuation of an upward trend..

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25541357/heres-why-the-nickel-defense-is-the-new-base-defense-in-the-nfl

    Also, I think Ryan Kerrigan is a better comparison to Bosa if one has to compare (if he transitioned well to OLB don't see why Bosa cant),  although like McPhee he can be kicked inside as interior rusher... Like previously said here, set edge on 1 & 2 downs, rush from inside on obvious passing downs. No matter which way you slice it he improves our team... 

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    1 hour ago, edthehead said:

    if this has been mention please excuse me have not read any of the past posts,

    many people this Bosa is not a fit for our type of defense now looking at today's ravens video there is also a mention of it

    so for me it really seems like Buckner is the better choice,

    I get the hype with Bosa but for me DeBuck is the choice

     

    Apparently, Ravens organization thinks he is athletic enough to play OLB... This coming from today's pre-draft presser...

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-ravens

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    15 hours ago, law215 said:

    LB Myles Jack, UCLA
    Junior; 6-1, 245; 3 games; 15 tackles, 0 sacks, 1 interception . How does this translate to top 5 IMO. (0 sacks, 1 int). Scout love his athleticism, but where's the production? 13 games 2013 1 sack, 13 games 2014 0 sacks. I don't see it.

     

    3 hours ago, BMoreDuck said:

    6: Jack- I even had a hard time putting Jack here. I'm not a fan of Jack at all. Every year there's an athletic freak that jumps high in the draft. That's Jack. I'm curious as to how many people on this board have seen multiple games of Jack or your just basing your opinion on highlights and what analyst say? The PAC 12 games don't air out East so that's why I'm asking this? I've seen probably 70% of Jacks games and I've seen him in person as well. I wasn't overly impressed. I saw Oregon's TE Pharoah Brown completely take him to school on multiple occasions and people say he's elite in coverage. Lol. I just think a lot of people have bought into the hype because he played on both sides and the media pumped him up. Plus, he's not terrible brightest kid. He really wanted to come to Oregon, but the Duck staff passed on him because they felt he wouldn't have the grades. Somehow he got into a higher institution of learning in UCLA, but I imagine some strings were pulled. At OLB we want an elite pass rusher ie: Suggs/Doom and while Jack isn't terrible off the edge he's certainly not elite. And he's certainly not a sackmaster. He barely got after the QB. I also don't think he has the field IQ to move inside at the next level.  I think he'd struggle at ILB having to 2 gap. It would be too overwhelming for him. That's just my two cents. Throw in the injury and I just don't see him being anywhere close to being worth it at pk6.

    I think you have a misunderstanding of his role as OLB in UCLA system.. OLB roles in 3 front and 4 front are different. Here's PFF link that explains different LB roles.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/05/30/defensive-prototypes-linebackers/

    Jack's value is middle of field coverage ability (which NFL defenses today put a premium on), sideline to sideline run and chase, and getting off blocks to affect the run game. So judging him based on (lack of) sack production is a bit misguided. If he is drafted by the Ravens he is a WILL ILB in our system, something which he is well suited for.

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