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Considering Flacco is the most consistent QB in the league at throwing 3 yard passes I'd love to see what he'd be able to do with Howard. QB/TE connection is important so it's hard to compare productivity but this may be the missing piece for Flacco since Pitta initially started getting injured, plus there are plenty of receivers I'd be happy with in the middle rounds

24 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Top 3 talent has everything to do with it if a team values talent over need, which is a really good way to do it in the top half of the league. I could very well see the 49ers take him. I could see the Titans take him, Jets, and Bengals as top 10 teams that could use a talent like him. 

Plus, again, the combine incident is way overblown and has no effect on his draft stock.

There's a big difference between where you could see someone going and where you think they will actually go. Can't really factor that into a mock otherwise every team would have 3 possible picks. If he is taken before the Bengals I will be shocked. Just curious who your top 3 is...

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The combine incident won't drop a top 3 talent that far because from everything players and scouts have said about the incident, it's truly no big deal.

Top 3 talent has nothing to do with it. I don't think Foster is even in question until pick 9, and the potential suitors for Foster could easily pass on him for a more ideal position. If we end up going Davis/Williams then I would be just as happy. I think those are probably the best three that could end up at 16

1 hour ago, redlobster said:

Where is the C or RT?

I'd love to address every position possible, but I decided to not go the most recent route, and actually focus on quality instead of quantity. Seen plenty of players come in go over the recent years, many who only ever played on special teams. Seems like certain positions have been a draft need year after year. When is the last time the Ravens kept two guys from the same draft class after their rookie contracts were up? Sidney Jones might be my least favorite pick, yet in the 2nd round I'd say thats a solid pick 

I tried to make this with no trades, as the board dictates this on draft day, but I do believe the Redskins deal Cousins to the 49ers after not being able to get him resigned to a long-term contract, again.

Ultimately I think the pick will between Reuben Foster and Mike Williams, but with the combine incident and Foster being ILB I think he would more likely to fall than Barnett, Corey Davis, or Mike Williams. Foster is my favorite of those three and he easily could be the first of those names picked.

2nd - Sidney Jones CB/Washington

With signing Brandon Carr I see no issue in picking Sidney Jones in the 2nd and not rushing him back onto the field. He is a 1st round talent and widely considered one of the favorites to be picked at 16 prior to his injury.

3rd - Chris Godwin WR/Penn State

I love when the Ravens pick players close to home and I feel like Chris Godwin does not get enough credit. Hell of a football player and watching him catch the ball near the sideline is something I could get used to.

3rd (comp) - DeMarcus Walker DE/Florida State

4th - James Conner RB/ Pitt

5th - Darreus Rogers WR/USC

I wanted to pick an OT in the 2nd/3rd but I feel like getting these players would be great value picks

30 minutes ago, rayven98 said:

I was just looking at the fact that our 2nd round picks have been pretty bad and potentially getting a high 1st round pick later in the draft could be great.

Agreed, I wish it wasn't always assumed we'll pick where we're at or move back. No guarantee a higher rated prospect outperforms another player, but it does hurt to draft picks only serve a special teams players and/or have an entire draft class no longer on the team. Would love to see them double dip in the 1st round since they haven't done that since the almighty Kyle Boller 

I'm not sure if this has been covered recently, but is there any chance of drafting Peppers even after signing Jefferson? I've been a big fan of Peppers, more so off the field than on.  Just watched another video that I think shows a lot about his character, especially with what he has gone through. From what I have seen he is just such an exciting player that really can command and lead wherever he's put. Only one interception is what a lot of people tend to focus on but this guy is pretty exciting to watch.

I keep seeing fans compliment other teams draft, how about the love for the Ravens draft? Ronnie Stanley wasn't a sexy pick but who else would you have much rather taken at 6? We (myself included) were all so quick to jump the gun and criticize the FO on picking him instead of Tunsil. Nkemdiche threw him under the bus at the combine, then the twitter account fiasco, and then having texts asking the coach to pay for his mom's bills that, just so happen, increased throughout the process? I think Stanley was by far the best pick at 6 and there really wasn't anyone that was dying to trade up at that point.

Passing on Spence did bother me, but they claim they had correa ranked higher, were able to move back twice and still get their guy. I think the thing that hasn't gotten as much attention is how much heart/anger some of these "reaches" play with. It doesn't show up on the stat sheet but you can definitely see it in the way they play. That kind of mentality is what makes good players great. We essentially got Correa and Judon instead of only getting Spence. All of the guys we drafted also don't have off the field issues. I don't think Spence will either but there's always the "we won't know until it happens" type of crowd.

We needed O-line, we drafted two of them. We needed pass rushers, we drafted two (and signed Victor Ochi). We lost a 6'7" 320 DE in Canty and got a 6'6 285 Kaufusi (Canty weighed 290 coming out of Virginia). We got another deep-threat in Chris Moore which is a solid back up plan for if Perriman doesn't produce. One game against Ohio State he had 3 catches for 220 yards and 3TDs (had a 20 yard TD that was called back which would've made it 4 TDs). One of his three was against Vonn Bell (2nd round pick) and one was against Eli Apple (10th overall in the draft). We needed corners and got arguably the best slot corner in the draft and drafted another CB in the 6th round. Didn't even need a running back but we were able to somehow grab Kenneth Dixon at the end of the 4th.

Keep in mind the scouts and FO know A LOT more than any of us even think we know. Ravens didn't go with the sexy picks, they obviously didn't want Jack that early in the 2nd round. I think we should give it time before being negative on the guys we picked or didn't pick. Multiple experts have given the Ravens VERY high draft grades for THIS year. Give these guys a chance before classifying them at reaches or poor picks.

Everyone complains about Perriman being hurt all year and that he's terrible, he's a bust.... Yet people were all in on Jack in the 2nd? If we didn't want him at 6, and we didn't want to trade up to get him in the 1st, I doubt the Ravens would've even touched him until the 3rd.

Ravens trade back with the Jets, picking up a 3rd this year, 1st and 3rd next year. They'll get Noah Spence with the 20th pick. Next I see Mackensie Alexander at our 2nd round pick and then trade up into the late teens to grab Su'a Cravens. Hollywood Higgins, Keith Marshall, and Joe Dahl in the fourth 

I'm at school in Kentucky so I feel your pain! My brother lives in Boston and was able to find a crew that meets at the same bar on Gamedays

I just don't see the Ravens going Tunsil AND Nkemdiche. I think Jakeem Grant won't go until later in the draft so I'd love to grab Keith Marshall or Drake and then get Jakeem later in the draft.

Tunsil, without question. I believe Ramsey gets a lot more credit than he deserves. Maybe if he stayed at one position in college and improved I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Not having to worry about LT for the next 10+ and the rest of Flacco's career sounds like a no-brainer to me. People like to downplay the role of LT because guys lineup all over the place, but LT still protects the blindside. Choosing between the two is a great problem to have, but I've got to go with Tunsil on this one.

If in fact the Cowboys are thinking of taking Bosa (because of the idiots on their d-line) or Zeke, would you guys be opposed to giving up our  3rd or a 4th and 5th in order to grab Ramsey? I think if the Chargers go Tunsil at 3 it's a very reasonable chance the ravens could want to jump the Jags to grab Ramsey (this aspect depends highly on where Norman ends up but I am just speaking as if the draft were today). I believe that if the Chargers draft Ramsey than we just stay put and grab Tunsil, Bosa or Jack

I am not a huge Nkemdiche fan, but I can't act like I wouldn't love him and Bosa/Jack/Ramsey. He has all the potential in the world, and even if he doesn't reach that he is still a player that cannot be stopped 1-on-1. If we do end up with Bosa and Nkemdiche teams will have to pick their poison cause there isn't a team that could stop them both along with the fact that we have Jernigan and Brandon Williams. The only way I see the Ravens getting Nkemdiche is if he makes it to the late 20s and we trade up (Packers at 27?). I feel like it would cost a lot to trade up in the early 20s with teams like the Jets, Redskins and Texans. I don't see Steelers or Bengals trading with us.

Idk if the whole comparing McPhee to Bosa thing works at all. Just because Bosa would be 6th overall and McPhee was 5th rounder doesn't mean his production has to be three times better. That would be like if the Steelers picked Coleman in the 1st and expected him to be twice as good as Antonio Brown just because he's picked higher. Some projects turn out wel but a lot go in and out of organizations without making much progress

I actually had a nightmare that the Ravens took Yannick Ngakoue at 6...

3 hours ago, Winchester said:

Tunsil is not putting on much muscle without overbulking. Jaylons knee is an if. Ron Stanley is a real college student with a real degree. Not an athlete who happens to go to classes. He clearly cranked up the intensity several notches when he dominated Leonard Williams. So football is important  to him. A challenge excited him and he wanted to win the confrontation. So he will work in the nfl and hit the weightroom.  So he has shown work ethic and competitiveness. I agree his interview is necessary to draft him. I understand there is much to prove about his game. But same can be said about your top6 players. Buckner I do not like very much. Boss I'm a fan but he has not checked the boxes. Hargreaves was toasted. There is more excuses for Ramsey not making big plays than big plays. Jack is not penciled in as the next Patrick Willis or even Luke Kuechly. He is the safest player next to Tunsil. The best player in this draft Nkemdiche has character drama. You could make a case Ron Stanley is as good a player as any in the draft. He holds blocks is athletic intelligent has balance long arms and although he could use some muscle he shows a very stout anchor.  More so than Tunsil. His only question is will he turn his attention to weightroom after his graduation.  My opinion he really will. He showed work ethic to get his degree when it us not really necessary. And he shows pride in his play when he turned up the intensity to dominate his confrontation with Leonard Williams. 

You must be his agent cause you're all-in on Stanley and many seem to still disagree

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

A guy with 2 All-American awards at two different positions is unproven?

 

Oh, okay.

I think a major thing with Ramsey is that he's a lot more exciting player. He's got the attitude and swagger and because of that, he appears a lot better than he actually is. Also multiple times in his highlight tapes, plays that he breaks up are recovery from making a poor first decision or flat out getting beat. If Haregraves was 6'0" I feel like he would be getting all of the attention in the world but because Ramsey is bigger, faster and can play CB or S he is getting a lot more credit than he deserves. I admit myself having Ramsey would be awesome but I think having Jack would be the better pick

NFL.com posted an article a hour ago and apparently Nkemdiche is meeting with the Ravens. I don't know if anyone is as surprised as me but is there anyway he's a trade back or trade up from 36 candidate. I figured Spence was a reasonable candidate for that but now it seems as if they are both a reasonable option.

13 minutes ago, Mad Puppy said:

Problem with the highlighted comment is Ozzies inability to retain highly drafted players past their rookie contract.

Case in point is our pro-bowl Guard who should have had a contract extension last year now gone. What do you think we realistically get for him next year as a comp? (4th rounder is my bet) Sounds like a losing proposition for a 2nd rounder turned pro-bowler. Now looking for another early pick to replace a pro-bowler.

What highly drafted player would've been worth the money we would've given them? Wouldn't have paid guys like Kruger, Oher, Torrey Smith half the money they got. Also we had to choose between Yanda and Osemele. I'd still take

Yanda over Osemele every day. Even then Osemele had no interest in signing a contract extension and knew he was going to hit the open market.

I just wanted to voice my opinion on the whole Noah Spence issue...

I met Noah Spence earlier in the week and talked to him for about 30 minutes. After talking to him I honestly think he his interview were not as bad as it seems. In my opinion I think it is more of the fact that he has a rather reserved personality. He was very well spoken and very respectful to me (im just a 21 year old college kid). He was great guy and even showed his calendar of upcoming visits this week which I thought was a great experience. If what makes teams question taking him was his interviews than I wouldn't hesitate to take him. I think he is more of a Marshawn Lynch in terms of having a reserved personality opposed to a Jalen Ramsey or Deion Sanders who are very confident and "out there" regarding how they carry themselves.