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24 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

With all the corners in this class I think we have a good chance of getting an instant contributer to our team in the early rounds. It's hard to rank them since there's so many. I'll take a crack at trying to rank the top 10 based on the film I've seen. 

1. Marshon lattimore

2. Quincy Wilson

3. Sidney jones

4. Cordrea tankersly

5. Desmond king

6. Jalen Tabor

7. Adoree jackson

8. Marlon Humphrey

9. Jourdan Lewis

10. Gareon Conley

I didn't put any reasoning otherwise this post would be way too long. If you have questions on my rankings or just to make a comment go ahead. I'm all up for discussion 

These are the guys I would be happy with. But Conley is one that a lot of people think can be good, even better than Lattimore at some point.  

Whyou does Charlie from Walter Football continue to mock Adoree' Jackson to us every mock?

25 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I 100% believe that 3QBs go. Leaving 12 other prospects that will be selected. My top 12 guys, regardless of team needs that I think will go: 

1.Garrett 

2. Allen 

3. Fournette 

4. Adams 

5. Barnett 

6. Hooker 

7. M. Williams 

8. Foster 

9. Robinson 

10. Cook 

11. Q. Wilson

12. T. Williams / S. jones 

Very very likely we are getting a game changer at 16.

It would be great if we could come away with Wilson. 

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I thought he was an inside linebacker, but then I read he led the BIG10 in sacks.

Matt Miller has him as his 43rd rated prospect and 10th ranked pass rusher... Yes, 10th at 43 amongst edge rushers. He has 13 in his top 52, or literally a quarter of his top 52. 

This is going to be a good draft to get an edge rusher in the second or third.

I've seen some people list him as a potential 1st rounder. But I completely agree, this will be a good draft for both edge rushers and corners.

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Is T.J. Watt not an inside linebacker?

He's listed as a 3-4 OLB on their website and sits at #4 in their OLB rankings.

This week Walter Football has us taking Quincy Wilson in the 1st and T.J. Watt in the 2nd 

7 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Ya Harris isn't value at 16, that is why u think he would be a great trade back player. Anderson is now in a weird in between slot I feel. Our best bet I believe is we make a move if Barnett slides to 10 or we grab Watt or Lawson in the second. Takk, Harris, and maybe even Williams will go in between 15-40. 

On a trade back how far would you be willing to trade back and try to still land Harris?

16 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

I have him around 20 as well at the moment which obviously only makes sense if we trade down (I imagine pff had more qbs above him on their big board though)

No, Watson is the only QB above him and it's only two on the whole list. 

7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I doubt either of them are there and I think hooker would draw us away far more than Adams. 

I'm really getting on board with Charles Harris at 16. I've been watching him more and I'm seriously becoming enamored. He actually bends better than I gave him credit for and he needs very minimal coaching and physically he is the prototype.

I also love a Sidney Jones and either Ryan Anderson or Harold Landry combo.

PFF released their top 32 prospect rankings and 16 wouldn't be too far off of where they have him ranked, which is currently 20. 

13 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Alright so before the combine hits what are everyone's preferred edge guys that we can actually get? Who best fits the 3-4? 

Ill just eliminate Garrett because there is no way we get him.

1.) Barnett, it would be a dream. Super consist. Technical freak with everything we could really want from a pass rusher. 

2.) Charles Harris, I like that he has size and an insane first step. He plays well against the run too. 

3.) Anderson, Surprisingly, he has made me look more into his tape and he has a raven demeanor. Consistently plays with an edge and consistently makes plays. His lack of bend is worrisome, yet his hand use and motor keep him as a threat. 

4.) Williams, despite a lack luster game last night, he does show good pass rush moves and looks like a very natural rusher. He still needs more muscle though as he still looks too wirey. Plus some more tenaciousness. He had many plays where he gave up or looked unable to use a second move to disengage the blocker. 

5.) Lawson, if he stays healthy, he is a really good rusher. But it's risky to take a injury prone player. If we get him in the second it couldn't be any worse than Correa. 

6.) Watt, he has the motor and dimensions of his brother. That is a great sign. He only has one great season to his belt though. He easily needs to gain 10-15 pounds to remain effective at the next level, all while hoping it doesn't slow him down.

7.) McKinley, only one great year while being in the pac 12. He also seems more fitted for a 4-3 instead. He has a high ceiling, but I'm not sure he is the right fit. 

8.) Landry, haven't seen too much on him. 

I was just telling someone the exact same thing about Watt earlier. The part about McKinley, I think it was said that UCLA switched to a 3-4 and it was hurting his performance so the team actually went back to a 4-3. Landry is returning for his senior year. 

Has anyone heard or seen anything on the Center prospect from Kentucky, Jon Toth? He's listed as the 3rd best prospect at that position ahead of guys like Guillermo, Fuller, and Orlosky on Walter Football. 

38 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

With the rise of Anderson and Watt joining the fray, I think the chances have really improved that Harold Landry will be there for us in the 2nd round.

I think he announced yesterday that he's returning for his senior year. 

13 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie Campbell is REALLY committed to the ravens taking adoree Jackson in the first. He's had it for about a month straight. 

I like adoree Jackson but I'd be really mad with him at 16. And Charlie has nailed our picks recently. He had us taking perriman for months in 2015, had us taking Mosley for months in 2014, also called us taking maxx Williams. He MAY Have called Stanley to us quite a bit but I can't remember.

He has us taking a CB in the 1st and 2nd 

20 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

That's watt won't make it to us in the 2nd as much as I'd love him to - he'd probably be closer to our pick in the 1st than the 2nd - I'd say he goes around the 20th pick

He even has Carl Lawson, Tre'Davious White, and Malik McDowell going in the later 2nd.

14 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I don't see Watt being there in the middle of the second, however I would love it if the draft played out like that.

I haven't gotten a chance to watch Watt, but if he's as good as I'm hearing then this would be a good start to the draft.

29 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

I'll add to that that he's the best run defender in the class and by a mile.

My concern is that with his awareness and IQ we try to convert him to an ILB and it fails miserably...

If he is as good against the run as you say he is and he can really rush the passer, then that would automatically make him the starting OLB opposite of Suggs.. 

This week in Matt Miller's scouting notebook he has us taking Cory Davis in the 1st and T.J. Watt in the 2nd.

9 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Well I guess all we can say when we see it is thank god Ozzie and Eric run our draft and not whoever made those picks

I'm pretty sure our draft will look different when the time comes.

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think that's incredibly awful.

I usually look forward to their mock drafts, but this one left a sour taste.

6 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Given just those two players you mentioned it's a crazy draft - normally I forgive these mocks for just drafting for need off their big boards but come on that's just ridiculous - they've misidentified both bpa and need - I don't see the logic

In the third round Harold Landry, Carl Lawson, and Ryan Anderson are all still available. 

8 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

That would be idiotic draft

I thought the same thing, just wanted to see if anyone else agreed 

Walter Football has us going

RD1: Malik McDowell, DE/DT, Michigan State

RD2: Christian McCaffrey, RB/WR, Stanford

RD3: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan 

RD4: Hasson Reddick, DE/OLB, Temple 

This happens and Tim Williams is still on the board in the second after we pick and Carl Lawson is on the board after our third pick. Thoughts?

15 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

The first and third, no.

What are your thoughts on Courtland Sutton? 

10 minutes ago, AsianRice said:

I don't think Marty is solving any of current offensive problems...

 

Kubiak was successful here in B-more cuz he brought with him a QB coach; Joe doesn't have one and it looks like he's losing his mechanics at some points of the season.

 

If we roll with Marty without a legitimate QB coach, 2017 is another disappointment season......

He mentioned interviewing a QB coach this week.

3 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Solomon Thomas>Lawson

Might even take a WR over Lawson if Davis or Williams is there.

Davis might be there, but I'm pretty sure that Williams is top 10.

Lets say the Combine comes around and Carl Lawson tests well and proves to have no health concerns. Would you guys consider taking him if Williams, Barnett, Jones, and Wilson are gone?