Jacquouille

4 minutes ago, regz1997 said:

That's true, but it does seem to be the classic veteran band-aid move. I'm not against it, because it protects us from losing leverage by being forced to take a corner with that first or second pick.

Yet if we don't pick a capable corner in the draft and we try to pass this off as our solution at the position I think it will be a big mistake. Like @ArsenalRaven666 said, we'll just have to see. 

Ozzie knows how little success you can expect from FA CB. In a historic DB class, no way he doesn't take one or two in the draft.

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

i think those other guys fit better if im honest - derek barnett has polish and doggedness similar to suggs coming out and bends the edge so well - he therefore has the perfect tutor to become even better while crushing off the other edge to suggs, tim williams has elite burst and has some nasty pass rush moves already, harris probably has the quickest first step in the draft and can take over games albeit is a little inconsistent, watt has maybe a higher ceiling than the other guys even - he crushed the combine and already has an incredibly high iq in the run and passing game although he can sometimes get himself a little tangled at times

with taco im not sure i really see the fit - i dont think i can see him as a 3-4 olb - he looks like someone who will have to play with their hand in the ground to get under tackles and use that initial 3 point stance to aid his burst off the line because he's not explosive enough to beat a good tackle in space - i imagine he'll be a good player in the league but im not sure he fits the ravens system and honestly im not sure he will become a premier rusher - i think he will be a solid starter but im not sure i see elite rushing potential which is what we are missing - finding someone to set the edge is much easier than finding someone who can poleaxe the qb

See my comments above, I would take him after Barnett, no doubt. But in all honesty their styles are pretty similar in some ways.

4 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I don't see the aggressiveness on tape. At least not every play. That's the biggest issue with him in my eyes. He tries to be a finesse player too often. I don't think he fits a 3-4 scheme. Maybe as a 5 tech but not an outside linebacker. He doesn't move well enough in space

I'd disagree, he seemed confortable rushing from a stand-up position. His FSU tape is a clinic, great run defense, victimized Johnson on passing plays with a great combo of bullrush/outside bend/spin move. Honestly his spin move is really great. It's not Harris-esque but he sets it up so perfectly, he forces the OT to guess the whole time and end up winning because the OT's never ready for what's coming.

7 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

i know so many people keep saying it in the media and on those boards but i really dont see his value at 16 - id take barnett, williams, harris, watt (and reddick if you count him) all ahead of him - in that sense id be very pleased if he went before our pick because he'll push someone better back to us

I don't know where I'd rank him compared to those guys but I think he really fits what we're looking for in a pass rusher: dense, physical, not necessarily explosive but really smart and agressive.

Just now, rmw10 said:

Just like the first round, 2.29 could be available for teams in the early 3rd that are looking to move up.  I don't like to waste time when I'm on the clock though so if you're interested, let's get the parameters worked out soon.

Might be interested, I'll PM you a few picks before your turn if there are some guys I like.

I'm coming around the idea of Taco Charlton at 16, especially if Barnett is gone. I'm a bit worried by his lack of explosiveness but he uses his body so well!

10 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

Thank you kindly. I know that some teams view him more as a WR, but even then, his numbers, i.e. the 4.42, the 36 vertical were comparable to what you'd expect out of a wideout. I personally view him as a move-TE. He's so quick of his breaks, and he knows how to settle down in zones. For an upcoming rookie, I haven't seen his level of polish in the passing game in a while. The Jordan Reed comp has been thrown around everywhere, but that honestly could be most apropos mention. Mixing Engram with David Njoku would make for a interesting pair to watch as far as mismatches go, especially with Kyle Juszczyk in the backfield. I did take a slight bump down in swapping Cooper for Cooks, but he as well brings the element of speed, and I have a feeling that Derek Carr would be pleased with the surrounding talent.

Hard to tell if he's a WR or a TE but one things for sure, he's gonna own the slot for the next decade.

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Engram is gonna be a premiere player I think. He moves like a guy who's 5'10 180 but plays bigger than his 6'3 frame, prototype TE big body catching ability with wr style shiftiness. The focus drops will be annoying though

Focus drops is probably the thing I worry the least for a WR. It's not bad hands, or an incapacity to make the catch like a Ted Ginn, it's just a lack of concentration here and there. When there's a tough catch that needs to be made, he makes it, that's the important thing.

I'm exploring a trade up in the second round from my 2-21, would give my early 5th.

Crap, was hoping Melifonwu would fall

1 hour ago, -Truth- said:

Sucks to lose a promising, young CB with starting experience, but I've had a target in mind for some time now. Just to confirm, I am up, right?

Yeah, Engram is definitely worth a trade up.

43 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

chargers get: 

2.21 and 3.21 

lions get:

2.6 

@Jacquouille

 

Confirmed

Sorry got caught into a party lol

32 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I am if you're looking to trade back. 

Pm me the offer!

17 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

looking to trade up from 2.21. is anyone interested?

Still are?

52 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya I kinda like both of their safeties although Jenkins might be slightly better in coverage. They're both big and can tackle though. Would make good special teams players and add depth to safety

I think they can also be that dime LB that we're coveting, they have the physicality for it.

7 hours ago, SepticeyePoe said:

If we were going wr in the first and Davis and Williams are both there, which one would we take? Are they about equal in talent?

I'd go Williams, I don't have as many doubts about him as I have about Davis.

I started watching some tape of the Miami defense, and Rayshawn Jenkins keeps on making plays. Real thumper, can also cover and has great instincts.

For everyone wishing to trade up in the second, I'll be your guy. Some great prospects will be falling to my pick but I need to gather more picks. Hit me up with an offer!

42 minutes ago, purpletide said:

I also think Peppers wouldn't be bad as a FS. That's what makes his stock so high, we can throw him in a lot of places and I don't see him having many issues.

I don't see him as a FS actually, strictly SS. I know FS are not asked to do just that but he's bad when playing the back end. The box is where he shines.

Just now, trevorsteadman said:

Before Webb got cut I would say no there probably was no chance.... But now that Webb is gone, the Ravens could still use Peppers as the #3 safety and have 3 safeties on the field. All built like strong safeties and would be able to drop them into coverage or down into the box and confuse defenses.

Ultimately though, I don't think the Ravens pick him unless he is there at 48, which I highly doubt.

Lol if he's there at 48 I'm taking the first flight and running to the podium to announce his name lmao!

On 13/03/2017 at 2:27 AM, KentuckyProud said:

 

I'm not sure if this has been covered recently, but is there any chance of drafting Peppers even after signing Jefferson? I've been a big fan of Peppers, more so off the field than on.  Just watched another video that I think shows a lot about his character, especially with what he has gone through. From what I have seen he is just such an exciting player that really can command and lead wherever he's put. Only one interception is what a lot of people tend to focus on but this guy is pretty exciting to watch.

 

He was my favourite 1st rounder but his skillset is just so reminiscent of Jefferson's, the fit isn't great now. I wouldn't bat an eye if we get him though, AZ did play with 3 or 4 safeties on the field.

McCaffrey to the Saints is a terrific fit though.

1 hour ago, allblackraven said:

You mean because NFL GMs are going to build teams just like we did?

True that. But I do think it is realistic nonetheless that Mike Williams falls to 16, although unlikely.

2 hours ago, T3hRaven said:

Mike Williams ain't getting to us IRL.

Well, all I know is I don't regret my pick, and I believe none of us do, so that's a good example that it actually can happen.

13 minutes ago, Edgar said:

That's how you'd have to use him in terms of an OLB. He can't hold up there full time against the run. 

He really is impressive in coverage...feet and hips almost like a db. 

 

He was a DB before converting to Edge (before converting to LB)

43 minutes ago, purpletide said:

He good on the edge? Really don't know anything about him.

You could definitely move him around the edge on 3rd downs, in a Bruce Irvin kind of role. Needs a better moves arsenal but there is definitely some raw tools to work as a DPR.