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24 minutes ago, Cawtious said:

Being Jensen's last year as an ERFA, he will not be content nor would it be wise for him to be in the role of a back up player.  He left last season as the tenured starter at LG.  I think it is his job to keep or lose.  Urschel, while very intelligent and able does not have the "Mr. Nasty" factor your left guard needs.  Jensen also has a quicker first step, and is explosive into the second level when blocking. His attitude and athleticism will serve Flacco and our running game well.  I predict he has a big year and is not polishing any pine.

 

why not have Jensen at LG and keep Urschel at Center?

23 minutes ago, DefensiveMind said:

Jack is a monster. A Jack/ Mosley duo would potentially give us one of the best, if not the best, linebacker duo in the nfl 

And it isn't like Jack would need much grooming. He would have an immediate impact and would compliment Mosley very well. I am all on board with Jack.

15 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why do people dislike Stanley? Is it because he's an OL and they're not sexy picks? Eric Fisher was viewed as a can't miss prospect but he's been an utter failure. I doubt this will be the case for Tunsil, but if you use the excuse that LT just aren't safe picks anymore (a fair argument, btw) then how is Tunsil safe? Many people felt this same way about Matthews and Robinson and while one has slowly come along, it's not like Robinson has lived up to his expectations and he was viewed as the better pick. 

I just fail to see why people use that LT bust excuse on Stanley but don't on Tunsil. If we're being objective then the excuse goes both ways and both are as risky. Tunsil is a better run blocker by a bit but Stanley is probably just as good a pass pro. 

Seems like an unfair double standard.

A lot has to do with the rumors regarding is lack of love for the game. That's an issue because I'd rather have someone less talented with the desire to be the best than have a guy that's content

46 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

How about trading up in the 20s to get him if the Jets don't?

I feel like there's no way he makes it to the 20s. Stranger things of happened but he's ranked a lot higher than Melvin Gordon was coming out and with Todd Gurley's success it's more reasonable for teams to go up and get a RB that can be a difference maker

We also could have to the same opinion on Stanley. If there isn't a huge dropoff than is it worth giving up what we would have to in order to get Tunisl when we could just grab Stanley and keep what we would be willing to give up

If we could trade Forsett and get any value I think I would be on board with it. Buck Allen and Zeke would be a great and inexpensive back field. That could free up room to re-sign Brandon Williams before he leaves for top dollar like Osemele did

14 minutes ago, January J said:

If bosa and goff/wentz Happen to go 1 and 2 (or even ramsey, Goff) trading up for tunsil Would be awesome.esp. since KO Is now all but gone. I dont see it happening but it Would be cool. Theres Just too much value in The 2nd round..but if we could get away with a future First and a third i would be all for it. Esp considering we wont Be picking this high again next year. (Hopefully) 

No way the Chargers would trade back if Tunsil is there. But I think the Cowboys are potential trade candidates to jump the Jags. If Elliot or a QB is their guy than there's 100% at least one, more than likely both and on top of that there's still going to be a top talent available like Bosa, Jack or Buckner

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Maybe I'm in the minority, but if there is any year to worry less about the comp picks, I think it would be this year. I'm not saying to completely dismiss the idea, but with only 2 guys likely to qualify (Osemele and Upshaw), why not put a focus on grabbing some quality UFAs this year? That's of course assuming that there are guys we want. Ideally whoever else we sign would be more of a long term option than Watson.

And there are so many needs this year that I think we can't address all of them just through the draft itself.

50 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I've heard reports before that Tennessee prefers to trade down and so do the Chargers. What if we traded up to get Tunsil? Apparently Tennessee has received quite a few offers to trade up. 

In this case does Eugene Monroe have any sort of trade value along with picks? That way they still get a OT and can still pick up a guy they'd like with 6th pick on top of other picks as well. I would be willing to give up a lot for Tunsil....

I wish this thread was deleted so I wasn't reminded of KO leaving every time I check out the forum. I was a fan of KO until I saw that he previously mentioned he was going to be a FA at the beginning of last season. I'm actually glad he left because players in the recent Ravens history that've left for the money so live up to their new contracts.

Is Monroe's injury history really that big of a deal? It seems to me that he's hasn't missed too much other than last year. I know its scary with a LT that isn't 100% reliable but does that justify taking Stanley at No. 6? I feel like there's plenty of depth towards the end of the 1st early second that the Ravens could get more value out of tackle than taking Stanley at 6. If Monroe stays healthy than there's zero issue with LT. Meanwhile, the Ravens have multiple long-term issues on defense that could be addressed with our 1st pick

22 minutes ago, Boddiebroadus said:

Anyway we would trade up for tunsil?

The only scenario I would see is if someone trades up to No. 1 to jump the Browns for a QB. Then the could move back to 6 and grab either the 2nd QB on their board or grab a guy like Bosa that they potentially may've taken at No. 2

41 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Just seen a mock on NFL.com that had us taking Buckner in the first and passing up Spence for Jaylon Smith based on the fact that if he returns to form in 2017, then we landed two top 5 talents in one draft. Would anybody else do the same? The unknown status of that knee might make Spence hard to pass on in this scenario.

I feel like that early in the 2nd is too much of a gamble at that point. I wouldn't mind if we went with Buckner, Spence, and then trade back up in the the 50s to grab Jaylon Smith.

Tunsil

Chad Reuter just came out with his latest mock and has the Ravens going with:

1st:  Buckner (Tunsil, Wentz, Ramsey, Bosa and Jack were the 1st five)

2nd: Jaylon Smith (this pick had the Ravens passing both Spence and WJ3)

3rd: Jalen Mills

4th: Rashard Hollywood Higgins

I'd love it would've gone Buckner, WJ3, Jaylon in the 3rd and then Higgins in the 4th

I wasn't able to watch much of the combine but are teams generally still viewing Ramsey as a Safety or more as a CB now. I know he can play both but I didn't know that if any of the teams in front of us drafted him, would they have him a CB or Safety? 

1 hour ago, trevorsteadman said:

We are at pick #6 and there are 6 blue chip players in this draft: Tunsil, Ramsey, Jack, Bosa, Buckner, and Hargreaves. That is my ranking for them as well. You take the highest on that list and that is your #6 pick. You don't trade back in a draft there is no depth anywhere. After #6 talent drops off drastically.... After success with early picks of Ogden, Suggs, Ngata, etc. I say we stay put. It took me awhile to warm up to Hargreaves but I have become a fan. I would rather have Buckner than trading down and get a position we need. Quality over quantity especially when we have so many of our veteran leaders are almost out the door.... Next season we may have both Suggs and Dumervil retiring.... That goes along with an inside linebacker spot that opened up after yesterday. The Ravens need to find young and talented linebackers fast or our defense will fall to the bottom.

I couldn't agree with this more. Same rankings on my top regardless of need. The success at our earlier picks in drafts have been great along with picks in the late teens. The last big name/ high pick we let leave was Ngata and that was after he gave us 9 great years and was on the decline. This pick should be the cornerstone of defense for the next 8 seasons

1st - Vernon Haregraves

2nd - Noah Spence

3rd - Jaylon Smith

is something I just thought of as a possibility and I actually teared up

The real question is if Tunsil were to fall past the Chargers, would it be worth trading with Dallas to secure Tunsil rather than gamble on the Jags not taking him? Also how much would it cost?

Quick question... So I, along with many others, really like Sterling Shepard and definitely see the potential. My question is that, with his size, would he be able to play outside or would he be drafted by a team solely to play in the slot? I would love for the Ravens to address D-line/Jack with the 1st pick and then grab a CB in the 2nd. I know there is a good chance he will be taken mid to late 2nd round. If he falls to the 3rd is he the right choice? Or do you guys have other mid-late round WRs that the Ravens would be better off choosing? 

29 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

It's true our drafts havent been great but there are a lot of factors involved that go beyond the players, you don't automatically land a blue chip star with a top 10 pick, roughly half of them are going to be busts. 

I didn't mean for it to sound like our drafts haven't been good. I still love what Ozzie is doing and think he has been efficient with his picks. We can't assume all picks will be a home run, especially picking that late in every round for the past 5 years. With picks this high in the draft and now being able to trade comp picks I hope we can sacrifice a few picks in order to move up and pick "our" guy than the picking the next best guy we have that falls to us

25 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

The further away you get from the top 5 the less likely a player is to stay on the team, but in saying that the more draft picks you have the better your chances are of finding contributors.

We've had too many contributors come and go. I think it's about time we get a superstar that we will actually be able to afford and keep in 4 years. The defense is losing its dominant presence and our offense is nothing spectacular. We've had way to many guys that were good once groomed but we are in the perfect spot and the right time to get a difference maker. Torrey Smith, Kruger, and Ellerbe are three guys that did well with Ravens but haven't lived up to the money they got from FA. 

52 minutes ago, Edgar said:

We would have sacrificed Mosley and Jernigan to go up and get Mack. 

I would be more than okay with that

1 hour ago, Boddiebroadus said:

I'm 100 percent on board with Myles jack even if Bosa is still on the board. we could trade back up into the bottom of the first and get Floyd maybe Lawson or ogbah. I think Floyd will be a great pass rusher. 

I also think that Bosa and Jaylon Smith in the 3rd/4th would be another great option

43 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Except he never stated it was his wagon.. 

 

"The Jack wagon" never once mentions anything about "my" 

"I like it.  I've been all about myles jack since I made my mock awhile back, glad to see others coming around.   I'd be very happy with this draft.  I don't think elliot falls that far though. "

"Im a huge advocate for Myles Jack, I did the first mock here with us taking him, caught some crap for it but it has caught on as it seems."

"As everyone knows, as I continue to state it, I love the Myles Jack pick."

"I wouldn't be shocked if we ended up with HG3, im not sold on him entirely for that early of a pick, everyone knows im all about Myles Jack."

"Love it.   Im glad the myles jack train is catching steam, when I mocked him to us about  a month ago I thought I was going to be the only one. "

"Im happy with that.  Ever since I mocked us getting Myles Jack awhile back the idea has seem to come around."

"Haha yes....I love that others have taken to the Myles Jack idea.  Jack has been my guy for awhile now, add in fuller and id be happy, nicely done." 

"Nice to see someone else on the Jack wagon.  when I posted my mock with us taking him at 6 I was the only one really suggesting that."

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