Purple&Black#20

7 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

Yes, Mike Williams. Enough neglecting Flacco, don't worry though, he'll be long gone , probably another weapon for poor Dalton and we'll draft some DT or LB. 

I agree if Mike Williams is available we should take him. I seriously doubt it and we draft OLB Reddick from Temple. 

13 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

That mans hands are as reliable as Jimmys health...

True!!!

2 hours ago, Edgar said:

The folks that go routinely to the wall for Flacco give him too little credit. 

I believe he receives to much credit at times. Look man, he has the talent and arm strength to be a great quarterback. But he doesn't approach the game like that. You can look in his eyes and don't see any passion for what he's doing. That's the biggest problem I have with him. I can say he sucks and you can feel he's good or great whatever seems fit. I can live with a man giving me 100% a lose. That's fine. But looking like Jay Cutler in a raven uniform gets under my skin. I need more effort out the guy. Not looking for a Brady but for for Flacco to step up and take his place in the top 5 (talent wise) where he should be. 

1 hour ago, flynismo said:

It's absolutely hilarious that some of you guys think that Flacco is so worthless, but we'd get two 1st rounders for him despite being so worthless. Which one is it?? LOL!

Hue Jackson is the Cleveland Browns Coach and feels he can get the most out any quarterback. That's why I say cleveland would probably do it. 

35 minutes ago, purpletide said:

The problem is we think he can become at the very least a decent QB if we just surround him with some guys. Nobody thinks he's Brady, but if we give him a good O-line and some guys to throw to I don't see him struggling near as much. A running game would help greatly, but that goes back to the O-line.

I'm really trying to keep faith in him but sitting and watching game after game makes me sick. He misses easy throws. They are to high, behind the receiver or jumpballs that could be touchdowns if put out in front of the receiver to run under. Perriman had Joe Hayden beat twice last year and the balls was under thrown. Front office does need to surround him with bigger targets. 6'3 plus. Jumpball specialist. 

3 hours ago, Ravens4l said:

I have been a Baltimore Ravens fan for many years.  Through the years I have stuck by our team time and time again through trades, releases, draft picks, etc.

However, our selections are getting ridiculous!!  First of all, Our DEFENSE is amazing so stop looking for more DE's.  Our DEFENSE is not broken it is our OFFENSE!!

Joe Flacco is a horrible QB!! He doesn't run out of the pocket almost ever and he just tries to bomb it down field on almost every pass.  He's passer rating is terrible, hell even Jay Cutler did better then him this season.

QBR:

Joe Flacco

84.7

Jay Cutler   

85.7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_passer_rating_leaders

 

I really do like what Harbaugh has done with our team when he took over and he is a Great guy!!  But come on something has to change because besides Flacco being an over-rated poorly producing QB, it is our selections that are driving me nuts as a Ravens fan!!  

Why in the hell do we have 6 Running Backs and 6 Tight Ends on our roster???

RB:

1. Justin Forrsett (who we just let go, and who we will regret letting go!)

2. Kenneth Dixon

3. Javorius Allen

4. Lorenzo Taliaferro

5. Terrance West

6. Danny Woodhead (who we just picked up for some d*mn reason, injury prone!) 

 

Tight Ends:

1. Dennis Pitta

2. Nick Boyle

3. Maxx Williams

4. Ben Watson

5. Darren Waller

6. Crocket Gillmore

 

 

I still love my Ravens but when decisions like this are made and we are CLEARLY hurting at WR (with Steve Smith gone) why in the hell did we just pick up Danny Woodhead?

 

You CAN NOT win in the league with just Running Backs and Tight Ends!!!

 

Thank you for listening.  I am done ranting.  Hopefully we get really good draft picks!! Let's go RAVENS!! 

 

 #Defensecarryingourteamasusual, #fixtheoffense, #newQBplease, #NextSuperbowlChamps, #Ravens4l,

 

I agree!!! Especially about how horrible flacco is. I don't understand how so many people on here believes he's a good quarterback. 

2 hours ago, lgcs27288 said:

Please tell me the last time a team traded within their division... please.

Djax was traded from the Eagles to the Redskins. Or was he released and picked up. 

Let's trade our 6th round pick to Cleveland for Josh Gordon if he's reinstated. He needs a  fresh start and has showed he's a #1 receiver.

I agree with trading him to Cleveland for both there first round picks. Just bite the bullet and move on. We draft Garrett with the first pick and Mike Williams or Cory Davis with the 12th pick because we didn't give Pryor 8 million for 1 year. Cleveland is desperate and probably will pull the trigger. Draft CB Tabor or Wilson from Florida in the 2ND and build the offensive line in the 3rd. The Brandon William deal is probably another set back. He should of walked and transition our defense from the 3-4 to a 4-3 defense. Jernigan is not a true 3-4 linemen. Mosley isn't a true 3-4 Linebacker because he doesn't blockshed well. 

                            4-3 Defense 

      Suggs.  Jernigan.   Pierce.   Garrett 

           Correa.     Mosley.    Onwuasor   

Smith.  Jefferson. Weddle. Tabor/wilson

Ravens defense would finally be back. 

8 million for Pryor was well worth risk. I'd rather have Pryor and Perriman than Wallace and Perriman. Seems like you don't no football as well as you think. 

1. Again I never said cut flacco but wouldn't be mad at all if we did. You said flacco has done well??? When? O the 4 games in a row to win the superbowl. Well football genius tell me when has flacco played 4 consistent games before then or after? I'll wait.... the answer is never!!! When has your leader ever been picked for a pro-bowl? Never! Well they ask him 1 year after Brady or Ben declined to go. Tyrod left for buffalo a made it his first year. 

2. Ed Reed football intelligence is off the carts. Harbaugh wanted him and Pollard gone. Why did they cut Pollard? I'll let you answer that because they only saved 1 million by doing that. That was a dumb move. He was the intimdator in the secondary. Then drafted Matt Elam and signed Michael Huff. Are you serious! 

3. Who cares what the market is for quarterbacks. If a player is not worth the market is then move on. Ask John Elway about that. He gave Peyton the money coming off 2 neck surgeries because he knew he could bring them a championship and he did. He let Brock walk and boy was the right decision. So please don't tell me about market value. 

4. I call a spade a spade and if you wanna be a Flacco lover then so be it. Again I'm not saying you can't win with him he's just not that guy. He has to be option 2 not 1. Ryan Clark always said when playing the Ravens they first assignment was to stop Ray Rice not Flacco. The blueprint is out on him..blitz up the a gap and he gets nervous and turns the ball over.

5. I'm done!

1. You have had to play football to understand football. 

2. This is not a Flacco debt. You keep bringing up we have a lot of money tied up but who's making the most???

3. I never said we cut Reed, I understand his contract was up and had lost a step but with Ray retiring you would think it would be smart to keep your second best defensive player of all time on the roster for next season. Reed was a smart football player and could of finished his career at SS where he started. 

4. You bring up only 1 season (2014) after there departure because of injuries. Tom Brady did not play the first 4 games and they went 3-1. Stop reaching for excuses. You sound just like harbaugh and Flacco. 

5. We keep investing in the wrong players. If flacco is our guy then put the talent around him to do well. He needs big receiver's that can go up and get the ball. Pryor would have been great but again we couldn't bring him in for 8 million? 

Harbaugh doesn't hold everyone accountable...he called out jennigan for picking up a fumble and then fumbling himself giving the ball back to our opponents instead of just falling on it. He called out Mosley when he intercepted a pass and fumbled at the goaline and gave ball back to the other team because it resulted in a touchback. But over and over again Flacco turns the ball over and all he says is Joe knows he's he gotta play better. Flacco has averaged double digit turnovers from the day we drafted him and nobody calls him out for it. Ed Reed should of retired a raven but didn't because harbaugh didn't want him here because he always spoke the truth. Only reason harbaugh winning record was good 675 percent his first 5 years because our defense and the vocal leaders we had in that locker room. Since there departure after the 2012 superbowl he has a 444 winning percentage. You do the math. Flacco gets paid like a franchise player, needs to held accountable like one. 

Doesn't look like we have the money to sign Pryor, trade a 5th round pick to the Texans for Jaelen Strong. He's still under his rookie contract. 

I'll take Britt over Garcon..Flacco needs a big target.

We need to land Pryor now!! Marshall was my first pick but he's off the board.

7 hours ago, Deflated Football said:

A nutcase that got us another Super Bowl. 

It wasn't our Coach! We had a veteran ball club that harbaugh destroyed! Ed Reed and Pollard was forced out of Baltimore. He's not a great Coach and it's starting to show now.

17 hours ago, Sami84 said:

this guy clearly is a bust in the making.. 

 

with steve smith coming off an a horrid injury at the age of 37 and wallace being really an unknown at this point in his career our WR corps looks a bit you know what..

I don't believe it's fair to label him a bust and he hasn't played because of injuries. We are fans and this is a young man's life... Physically he'll be okay I just hope his mental is not affected by this! 

16 hours ago, respecttheRaven said:

Opens a spot for Daniel Brown maybe? Really a bummer for Perriman....but you know the saying, "Next man Up!!  

Josh Gordon...hopefully he's gotten his act together and will be reinstated by the start of the season. The Browns drafted like 3 wr's during the draft and we could possibly trade a 5th round pick for him. Low risk but high reward if it's works out. 

16 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Here we go again...

 

Sad news...keep your head up kid!

Good move Ravens! He played great.

With the personal we have right now I think a 4-3 would work perfectly. Just imagine Dumervill, Williams, Jernigan/Davis and Suggs on our D-line. Mosley, Brown, and Orr at the linebackers. They and young ,fast and can fly around making tackles like the 2000 LB core did. Running the 4-3 keeps those guys clean to attack. 3-4 requires special LBS. Yes, Suggs and Dumervill can hold there own. But the ILB are not the best block shedders. Jernigan will be a pro-bowler hands down in a 4-3 scheme. He will get a lot of 1 on 1 opportunities with Suggs, dumervill coming off the edge and Williams getting double team. This will also help our secondary. Running a cover 3 will help Jimmy Smith a ton. He's not the corner we hoped him to be but can look pretty good in a cover 3. His size and having 1 assignment of not letting anyone get behind would be better than him trying to mirror someone. Once a receiver gives a second move it's over for him. Will Hill in the box, Hargreaves at the other corner at Daniel Thompson from Boise state at FS. Top 5 defense again!!

I agree that the weapons he has now are not good! But seriously, the Ravens defense carried Flacco the first 5 years. Early in is career he had Mason and Clayton and they was undersized but that doesn't makeup for his ball placements. Everybody talks about how strong his arm is... but when he throws the deep ball over 90% are jumpballs. Flacco can't read DF's that well. Week 1.. Crockett should of came up with that catch but if he took some air from under ball the safety won't have much time to get over. Week 2... Steve Smith open for the game winning TD that would put the game out of reach. Gillmore is a mismatch nightmare. His blocking stood out a little more than his pass catching abilities. In all I thinks he's the best all around TE we have. You can win with him only if he good maybe even great receivers around him and keep him in the shotgun. Him under center always hindered his game.

No exceptions, everybody and it starts with those three. Flacco is just okay. He's only played at a very high level in a hand full of games. The superbowl run and a couple of AFC championship games. He doesn't make players around him better it's the other way around. Ozzie loves he's Alabama players a little to much. We drafted Mosley and needed a FS then. Calving Pryor IMO would have been the perfect raven. He would of brought back the physical play to Baltimore. Mosley is a good player don't get me wrong but drafting A Brown the year before didn't make sense. Upshaw is done after this season. He's slow and over weight for his position. Harbaugh cut and traded some very important parts to our team after the superbowl. Boldin in my opinion was the #1 key to our superbowl run. You cut Pollard who brought fear to wr's and only saved 1m. He cleaned house of our vocal leaders in the locker room. Do we ever think to question why ed didn't finish his career as a raven? Harbaugh wanted complete control of the locker room so he cleaned house!! It starts at the top!