ALPHA

Ramsey and Dodd

2 hours ago, MTRavensFan said:

James Ihedigbo and Ricky Williams, gotta love Ricky, man.

Ihedigbo, man I wanted us to re-sign him we could have really used him the past two years. I knew Elam was going to bust after his first season.

And Nakamura, that guy was a stud in camp and not so much on gameday, I never liked Zibby.

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Great analysis. When he pins his ears back you see a good first step and he gets to the corner at a very impressive rate for someone as huge and strong as him. He's no Vic Beasley but he is more comparable to a well rounded OLB like suggs or James Harrison. 

 

I like that lawson brings pass rush in a variety of ways and doesn't just rely on a bull rush or the bend, and i like that he visibly did not pin his ears back and still did everything at a very high rate. He is nearly everything you look for in a pro 34OLB

I think his workouts show what he is capable of, he kind of reminds me of Upshaw but he timed like Justin Houston so that could be his ceiling. However I still like Kevin Dodds tape better he reminds me of Jared Allen.

6 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

They're right--his [Lawson] first step is slow. I don't care if he runs a 4.1 40 yard dash but he is not fast off the ball. And having a few extra steps helps but you don't want your edge defender to be like that for this team since we often run a hybrid scheme that calls for our 3-4 OLBs to play 4-3 DE and vice versa. We often do this to disguise the formation. Furthermore, you don't want to rely on a guy to have to get a few steps to apply pressure. That just doesn't work very well in the NFL. 

Bosa isn't slow at all. He has plenty of explosion and he's plenty quick. 

He has a 1.64 split so I wouldn't say he has a slow get off, maybe just inconsistent or he has different responsibilities. His focus could have been on setting the edge and using that nasty spin move to rush.

Musa Smith, Prescott Burgess and Lamar Divens

That was a really good Oscars ceremony, they were smart to embrace the race controversy instead of ignoring it. An open discussion instead of vilifying or ignoring the issue helps everyone move forward.

$20M a year is the going rate for a proven franchise QB thats just how the market is, if we don't meet that market another team will and do you know what happens to us? we get some cap space but spend another 10-15 years looking for a franchise QB.

Without Joe we would have a record like the Browns

1 minute ago, sflegend89 said:

 

 

Nope, he's a huge risk that high because of his character/substance issues. Still the best 3-4 OLB prospect in the draft but the juice isn't worth the squeeze if he's going to be acting like a knucklehead. He's too risky for us. 

He has good traits and a following here but it should be fairly obvious he isn't the 6th best player in the draft, unless they think he's going to fall to us in the 2nd or we trade up to get him.

Can I say coke and hookers?

Does anyone think we are going to draft Spence?

28 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Disagree about the bench press. The reps show endurance of constantly holding up against the O-linemen for Defensive players and also shows strength at sustained levels. How can it be bad? I just don’t get your logic. The 40 on the other hand is important because it shows short burst speed (10 yd burst) as well. Also, the other events like the broad jump and the vertical show off an athlete’s explosion from a still position. That is critical as well. As for the drills, they’re clearly important. 

Finally, a lot of brain trust goes into the combine. When I say brain trust, I mean really knowledgeable football braintrust. So, I’m very comfortable with the events at the combine.

I think the only thing the bench press shows is weight room dedication.

1 minute ago, allblackraven said:

Then we didn't see the same, definitely. He was the best OS defender his sophomore year and very dominant vs lesser competition while at Eastern Kentucky. I get it, you don't rate him high but everything seen so far points at him as the best pure edge rusher in this class.

We can respectfully disagree as long as you don't put words in my mouth again. I don't mince words, these are my observations and I try to be objective and not impose them.

2 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

In other words, you haven't seen his OS tape or games

Incorrect.

4 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I was thinking he'd be a target in the second round, but with some teams removing him from their boards all together, have to wonder if he'll even be a day two guy.

I hope it's not a Marcus Lattimore situation.

4 minutes ago, Boddiebroadus said:

U can say the same thing about his 40 time and his game speed. 

I wasnt impressed by his game speed, he was better than his level of competition but not by much. I think he's a touch more fluid than his peers, either that or they're all very stiff.

7 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Maybe. Suggs isn't just any player. But how can you guarantee that?

I'm convinced by what I've seen. The original point was that Spence isn't stout at the point and doesnt have ideal athleticism, the counter argument is that he benched more than Suggs, I say it's a poor indication of play strength.

9 minutes ago, PolishRifle said:

Benchpress:

Suggs 19 times

Spence 25 times

Suggs was awful in the combine. His 4.8 40 time was arguably the best thing about him.

I guarantee you Spence will never reach Suggs play strength, he doesn't have it in him

20 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Agreed. Too robotic in his movement, wasnt as fluid as id like to see. Seems like a guy who needs yo play on the line. I dont trust him in space

He's a far better pass rusher than edge setters like JJ and Upshaw

If Spence had a power edge to his game like Suggs then a 4.8 is acceptable.

Shaq Lawsons numbers are surprising, I thought he would time like Courtney Upshaw. 

13 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

Are you 6'8" 290+ pounds? Lol

But he's a FREAK! lol

Shawne Oakman 4.96

I ran faster than that in Juco

5 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

Very impressive. Haven't watched any tape on him, might have to take a look.

He's pretty bad, thats why he's not a big name. But he might have a better weight to speed ratio than Clowney.

9 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Nkemdiche looks beastly. Ran a 4.87! 

I knew he wouldnt touch Aaron Donalds time

Nothing but respect, he's a legend.