PurpleRainBlackVeins

True number 1's just have that "it' thing. And I'm sorry, I just don't see it with Perriman. He's nothing close to AB or Odell, even Julio. A good number 2 is what I see, and he still has a long way to go to even be that.

At least he grudgingly accepted the notion that Flacco was being paid like a Tom Brady but performing at sub-par levels. He also understands that Flacco needs to earn that money by becoming a QB that carries the team. But, interestingly he retains Marty as OC because he allows Flacco to pass extensively which in turn is a recipe for a certain loss. Contradictions galore!

Unless there is balance between run and pass there is no way Flacco can ever carry this team with his arm. He isn't that cerebral as a QB as proven time and again with his bone headed decision making.

I agree and yes for the first time he actually admitted that Joe needs to play better instead of making the same lame excuses for him like he always does

Sadly, after listening to the presser, Biscotti is well aware of his decision to keep both coordinators as he stated that they talk everyday. I got ripped to shreds the other day for saying harboo needed to go. I hope all of the Harbaugh supporters are happy! Here's to another 8-8 season

Wow!! That's all I can say!!

Dennis: The Ravens are consistent on offense. They run 3 plays. Either Joe throws it to you, he throws it to a running back 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage or he throws it to the defense.

PRICELESS!! lol

If the Ravens part ways with Harbaugh it will take him under ten seconds to be a Head Coach again.

and your point???

  35 minutes ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

  52 minutes ago, JD08 said:

I would like to see Harbaugh go, but there's not many good candidates that can replace him. He got rid of players that bumped heads with him and it has hurt the team, I think that's why we see players leave us to go play for Pagano or Rex. He never calls out Flacco for the many mistakes he makes but any mistake made by anyone else they get called out for it

It really grinds my gears to hear him defend Flacco every time a reporter asks him about a boneheaded play or decision made by Flacco or what's up with Flacco's mechanics. He always says things like Joe is a great QB, I'm a Joe Flacco fan, Joe will be the first to tell you he needs to play better, Joe this Joe that. But will rip Timmy to shreds for a bad play, or put players like West and Judon in the doghouse for a special teams mistake. He does the same thing with his awful coordinators. IDC what anyone says, the days of a winning culture are far behind us and it's not a coincidence that is dwindled after the SB team was dismantled.

First order of being a Head Coach never bad mouth your Starting Quarterback, too many other people, Fans & Reporters, will do a ton of that.

Welp, then that should run through all the players. They have feelings too....

Clearly the fire everyone crowd is out today. I think that we need to step back and look at what other teams are doing and how successful they are with a revolving door at HC. Clearly, it just shows how little these people know about NFL football.

If this team hadn't improved since 5-11 then maybe we would look at Harbaugh but we were one game out of winning the division. If you listen to what other experts say about the Ravens and their coaching staff then maybe you would be a little more enlightened. Right now there is a lot of ticked off and not a lot of common sense being thrown about here. PFT said that short a couple losses as a result of Trestman earlier in the year, the Ravens were a legitimate super bowl team. Shame it had to come down to that game but short the Pees bend, bend, break philosophy, this team would have a lot more success.

Fact is, the OC has to go, isn't qualified and we need to go out and court a real OC and DC and not one of John's buddies from the Eagles. The bend, bend, bend, break defensive mentallity, doesn't cut it any more in this NFL. For the longest time I thought we could get by with Pees, but his inability to make adjustments in a timely manner always costs us.

No we do need to make some changes and I would maybe throw Castillo in that mix as well. When we had legitimate candidates like Kubiak, we could see what we could do, the same is true both offense and defense, we need to get people who really excel in coordinating. We didn't get to the last game of the season and barely miss going into the playoffs because we have a lousy head coach. Harbaugh needs strong coordinators due to his lack of experience in those areas and when we had those quality coordinators, we always did well.

The same experts that usually calls us pretenders? Hmmm people seem to think that just because some of us want change it means we are not knowledgeable. I don't think wanting a new regime after 9 years would constitute as a revolving door. We've only had 2 coaches in an 18 year span, so now all of a sudden we are the jets and browns because we want something new? This team is prehistoric. We were only still in the thick of the playoff race because cincy had an uncharacteristic bad season, and pitt had some injuries early that costed them some games. Had they been playing like they have been the last 5 games they would have ran away with the division and left us in the dust. HB is handicapping us to a degree with a lot of his decision making and if he stays then someone needs to override some of those decisions.

  15 minutes ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

  24 minutes ago, Shaky End of the Quarter said:

I completely disagree that a change at HC is not needed. Harbs lost this team half way thru the 2012 season. They won the SB thanks to Ray, Ed and the gang. Since Ray and Ed's departure the Ravens have only made the playoffs once and nobody seems to remember that we had to mount a 4th Qrt comeback in Cleveland in week 17 that year and we still needed the help of a botched 25 yard field goal by KC vs SD. If the kick was good Pitt moved on to the playoffs but since KC missed we moved on. Look it up if you dont remember. And since then we missed the last 2 playoffs and have a combined losing record.

I do believe a change at DC is more urgent than a change in HC. Our Def has not been good for 4-5 years now. Regardless of what PFF or whomever says our defense was NEVER ranked #1 in the NFL this year. Its easy to pad your stats when you play Buff (OC fired 2 weeks later), Browns x2, Jags, Jets, Redskins, Cincy without AJ Green, Pitt with Big Ben 9 days removed from a meniscal cleanup and a bunch of other putrid offenses. The moment we played a decent team we got manhandled. If ya'll cant see that then you are blind.

Unfortunately nothing will happen with Harbs, Pees and company because we are still living in the past and not looking at the tendencies. This team's arrow is pointing downwards and needs a new injection of life, accountability and passion for winning. I thought this was a league of "what have you done for me LATELY?". Because I know what this team, especially Harbs with his poor clock management and overall clueless attitude, has done lately. Harbs has made way too many piss poor decisions in games and to top it off he couldn't seem prouder of his ineptitude when asked about it in post game pressers.

For these and many more reasons Harbs and Pees are no good for the Ravens moving forward.

Guess we're the only 2 who feels that way. People seem to hang on to a SB win that was 4 years ago with a different swag on defense and offense. Harbs has ruined this team, along with his inept coordinators. But hey, what do we know??

Not much.

lol wow that really hurt my feelings.

  37 minutes ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

  45 minutes ago, sami said:

We were a foot away from winning the AFC north after playing a team on a 5 game winning streak, in their place, with the top RB and top WR and one of the top QBs in the league. And you guys want to fire everyone and start over. I think you'd be happier in Cleveland, they start over every two years.

So 1 trip to the playoffs in 4 years is something to be happy about? It's not about how close we were in that game, it's about how far apart we've been from the playoffs since winning the SB

We haven't been far from the playoffs. Except for last year, when most of our key players were injured, we haven't missed the playoffs by more than one game, and most of the games we lost have been very close.

The one year we went in 2014 we needed a lot of help in the end, people seem to forget that. That is nothing to hang a hat on. Missing by a game or two or three is still missing. Almost doesn't get you SB rings.

I completely disagree that a change at HC is not needed. Harbs lost this team half way thru the 2012 season. They won the SB thanks to Ray, Ed and the gang. Since Ray and Ed's departure the Ravens have only made the playoffs once and nobody seems to remember that we had to mount a 4th Qrt comeback in Cleveland in week 17 that year and we still needed the help of a botched 25 yard field goal by KC vs SD. If the kick was good Pitt moved on to the playoffs but since KC missed we moved on. Look it up if you dont remember. And since then we missed the last 2 playoffs and have a combined losing record.

I do believe a change at DC is more urgent than a change in HC. Our Def has not been good for 4-5 years now. Regardless of what PFF or whomever says our defense was NEVER ranked #1 in the NFL this year. Its easy to pad your stats when you play Buff (OC fired 2 weeks later), Browns x2, Jags, Jets, Redskins, Cincy without AJ Green, Pitt with Big Ben 9 days removed from a meniscal cleanup and a bunch of other putrid offenses. The moment we played a decent team we got manhandled. If ya'll cant see that then you are blind.

Unfortunately nothing will happen with Harbs, Pees and company because we are still living in the past and not looking at the tendencies. This team's arrow is pointing downwards and needs a new injection of life, accountability and passion for winning. I thought this was a league of "what have you done for me LATELY?". Because I know what this team, especially Harbs with his poor clock management and overall clueless attitude, has done lately. Harbs has made way too many piss poor decisions in games and to top it off he couldn't seem prouder of his ineptitude when asked about it in post game pressers.

For these and many more reasons Harbs and Pees are no good for the Ravens moving forward.

Guess we're the only 2 who feels that way. People seem to hang on to a SB win that was 4 years ago with a different swag on defense and offense. Harbs has ruined this team, along with his inept coordinators. But hey, what do we know??

  19 minutes ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

So 1 trip to the playoffs in 4 years is something to be happy about? It's not about how close we were in that game, it's about how far apart we've been from the playoffs since winning the SB

Of course it isn't. But looking at the situation, does it warrant blowing the entire team to bits and starting over? The article argues that PIT missed 3 or 5 and didn't take the scorched earth approach to the situation. Not sure what you're advocating to fix this, but if it involves the dismissal of the HC, what was also pointed out in this article is that PIT is in because they have drafted top notch playmakers over the past few years and we have not. 

The HC cannot be w/o fault. He has decision making capabilities as to who stays and who goes when it comes to roster cuts. Even if the players are not quite pro bowl players. And he has decided to cut players that deserved to stay to keep or bring in players like Hester which will forever be one of the worst calls he's ever made. He's made so many in game clock management blunders that have cost us at least 3 games this season alone. He has made poor decisions with coordinator hires that has left us with a 9 yr QB who is heavily reliant on a coordinator to help him play well. Our nasty streak has left the building and its what has kept us a dominant organization for years even with years of having an inept offense. This is Harbaugh's team now and I barely recognize it. I'm not saying dismantle or blow up the team, but staying the exact same would constitute insanity. Something has to change, and if keeping HB is what's done, then the coordinators and assistant coaches needs to be revamped, along with the scouting department.

I would like to see Harbaugh go, but there's not many good candidates that can replace him. He got rid of players that bumped heads with him and it has hurt the team, I think that's why we see players leave us to go play for Pagano or Rex. He never calls out Flacco for the many mistakes he makes but any mistake made by anyone else they get called out for it

It really grinds my gears to hear him defend Flacco every time a reporter asks him about a boneheaded play or decision made by Flacco or what's up with Flacco's mechanics. He always says things like Joe is a great QB, I'm a Joe Flacco fan, Joe will be the first to tell you he needs to play better, Joe this Joe that. But will rip Timmy to shreds for a bad play, or put players like West and Judon in the doghouse for a special teams mistake. He does the same thing with his awful coordinators. IDC what anyone says, the days of a winning culture are far behind us and it's not a coincidence that is dwindled after the SB team was dismantled.

We were a foot away from winning the AFC north after playing a team on a 5 game winning streak, in their place, with the top RB and top WR and one of the top QBs in the league. And you guys want to fire everyone and start over. I think you'd be happier in Cleveland, they start over every two years.

So 1 trip to the playoffs in 4 years is something to be happy about? It's not about how close we were in that game, it's about how far apart we've been from the playoffs since winning the SB

I'm not gonna lie. I am one that would love to see Harbaugh go. Never was a fan of him even when we were winning. But if we keep him then ok, my question is will he pull the trigger and really shore up his coaching staff? He's shown me time and time again that he will pass up talented coaches like Shannahan for the opportunity to hire one of his buddies. Time and time again he makes excuses for Joe when he plays poorly, but will call out players like Jernigan and Judon for messing up. I just want to see him hold everyone accountable, coaches and players, and get us back to the team that we once were.

  28 minutes ago, Warren said:

  1 hour ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  1 hour ago, thegooddoc456 said:

Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

I for one agree with you 100%

I agre as well.

I agree as well. John Harbaugh seems just a little too self righteous.

I thought it was just me who feels this way about John smh

The Ravens need to ditch their conservative game plan as well. The Steelers plan to ball out and if the Ravens want a victory they are gonna have to ball out as well. Flacco needs to bring January Joe to the party.

They better come to play because even though we've owned the steelers as of late...this game has a whole new meaning and the steelers won't go away quietly. The last thing they want is to engage in a shoot out with Ben. Joe better wake up early and the defense has one goal...contain leveon!

  1 hour ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

  1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:

  2 hours ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

Did anyone else feel the awkwardness of Harbaugh's uncontrollable cough during the press conference? It was so bad he had to abruptly cut the presser short!

Well, that happens. As a teacher, I once had to cancel a class because about 15 minute sinto the class the exact same thing happened to me. Lasted for about 20 minutes.

Oh ok. Yea I've had that happen too, his just seemed really weird. And he's been looking a little thin and aged lately. Could be the stress of the season and this team, and his job. Just observations I've been making.

Or that he is going to have to fire like 5-7 friends from his Eagles days this offseason. If he is not savage enough to do that, I don't see him lasting much longer here. The closer to the top you are, the more savage you must be to keep and hold power.

LOL @ savage! Perfect use of the word!! At this point I'm skeptical about how savage he really is. He needs to do what's best for this team and really start bringing in talented coordinators like Bellicheck does, instead of providing his buddies with jobs. His loyalty will be the reason why he is out of a job come seasons end.

  41 minutes ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

Did anyone else feel the awkwardness of Harbaugh's uncontrollable cough during the press conference? It was so bad he had to abruptly cut the presser short!

Well, that happens. As a teacher, I once had to cancel a class because about 15 minute sinto the class the exact same thing happened to me. Lasted for about 20 minutes.

Oh ok. Yea I've had that happen too, his just seemed really weird. And he's been looking a little thin and aged lately. Could be the stress of the season and this team, and his job. Just observations I've been making.

Did anyone else feel the awkwardness of Harbaugh's uncontrollable cough during the press conference? It was so bad he had to abruptly cut the presser short!

  2 hours ago, TheRavengers said:

If your own HEAD COACH thinks a play is a bad idea but allows it anyway, then that's on you. Also on Joe for not switching up at the time and just blindly agreeing with it, especially since we were actually running the ball all the day and our offense actually moved a bit better than last week.

Think back to the Seahawks-Pats Superbowl if you wanna see how throwing that close to the goal line near the end of a game worked out....

That is not the way the offense is run - not sure what you people don't understand - JOE RUNS THE PLAY AS CALLED - this offense has always done that and will continue to. The only time Joe seemed to have the decision making authority was in the 2012 playoffs. Other than that, the play that is sent in is the play that is ran. That's not up to Joe, that's up to the head coach!!

So we're paying 120mil for a puppet? He should have autonomy at the line to some degree, you know being as though he's a 9 yr QB

"I did it because I wanted to..." Awesome. I am sure the rest of the team and the coaching staff appreciated that. And although he doesn't HAVE to answer the question honestly or at all, he could end all the speculation if he just answered it like an adult instead of a spoiled child. I would also like to hear John Harbaugh's thoughts on this and what exactly he did afterward. What head coach lets any player just walk off of practice like that unless that player is hurt? That is inmates running the asylum so to speak and that's exactly what got Billick fired.

I also don't like Suggs' suggestion that people are making a mountain out of a molehill. It isn't every day that one of your star players goes off on a tirade, tossing their helmet twice, kicking a football off the field, and then storming off and removing themselves from practice. That's kind of a story and I'd like to know whether it was Smith upset at himself for not being able to run like he once did, which I would totally buy and get if he said that, or if he was ticked off with Joe because he didn't seem to be as serious and as focused as Smith himself is and whether that was a perception or reality due to Joe's catatonic facial expressions.

One way to stop rumors and speculation about a story is to get out in front of it. Now you got to deal with it being what it is.

perfectly said!!

Welp, guess we're not the only ones frustrated with check down Joe -__-

  48 minutes ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

When I saw Brady showing that high emotion and fire on the sideline, I couldn't help but say "I wish Flacco was like that". I knew at that point in the 1st quarter that the game was over. Flacco cannot match the competitiveness of Brady. Only Ray Lewis was capable of pushing this team over that edge.

Which is why I was upset at people who criticized Ray for criticizing Flacco. I do not know what goes through some peoples mind, but when a legend like Ray Lewis gives out criticism, especially to a player that is playing for the team he fought for, you just shut up and listen. I'd take Ray Lewis over flacco any day...point blank. Flacco should have been thankful to get those words from Ray. he only said it because he truly cares about this organization. Unfortunately there are people in this Ravens organization that never gave as much as Ray did, but they feel like they are in a position to downplay his words.

Ray Didn't throw 11 touchdowns in the 2012 Playoff run.I really don't care what Ray says he is retired, move on.

Ray just only carried this franchise for 16 1/2 years. Flacco had one good post season and you're ready to crown him king. How about we move on from Flacco