12 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:Examples being...
It's documented all over the place. From Woody, to Sanders, to Moss. Ty Law was just talking about this a couple months ago.... as he was a victim of it. There was also an article talking about how the Packers do exactly the opposite of the Pats. They rarely trade, cut or deal their veterans. And maybe their replacements don't produce just as much, but the team doesn't take a hit because of it.... That's probably a better way of stating it
41 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:They haven't. How long have they had Gronk? How long have they had Edelman? How long did they have Welker before that? How long have they had the same coaches and o-line. Tell me when they have had 7 different offensive coordinators in 10 years, 5 in the past 5 years.
They have more consistency than most teams. Take out that long Hogan touchdown and the game is tied.
Belicheck is known to move on from players a year or 2 sooner than fans want, and replace them with younger players who come in and produce just as much. His system is so crisp, you can easily plug and play. I take it you're not really paying attention.
54 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:So in a fan's perspective... To build a team you must:
1. Cut all veterans.
2. Play all young players based off of POTENTIAL not production.
which in turn somehow
3. Gives your team more chemistry and a better chance to win.
Sounds like Belicheck eh?
56 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:Thank god fans do not run this team.
Why Webb? He has played very good football. This is the first time since Pollard-Reed that I have confidence in the team's safeties.
Lewis is a great back up. Probably a starter on 20 teams if not more in the NFL. People complain about depth.
Powers has done a very good job in the slot. He went out with a concussion but until that point he was playing good football and has been for games now.
And the biggest head scratcher is WALLACE. The team's leading receiver by far. He has made so many key plays for this offense. He will probably be the only one to eclipse 1000 yards this season.
Theres a reason that Reynolds and Campanaro can't even make the roster. They are plain not good enough... Not yet anyways. Just no.
Eh. Cut the nonsense and let's be real. You're falling in love with players. You probably also loved Arrington and Asa Jackson.
We need more speed in the secondary. The Webb experiment needs to end. When I was crying to start T.Young early in the season over Wright, everyone yelled the same nonsense "good thing fans don't make decisions". You probably loved Wright. I can just sense it.
Lewis a great backup? You're kidding right?
And I never said cut Powers.
48 minutes ago, Alexir said:I'm not ruling us out of playoffs (obviously still 3 games left), but here are some players that need to be off this team next year:
Cut: Elam, Powers, Webb, Hester, Arrington, Lewis, Wright (don't know his Guaranteed money though).
Not certain about all their contracts, so might not make sense to cut some, but I think they need to go.
Hopefully we can get Reynolds, Kaufusi, Correa, and Moore involved more next year. Other than them, I've been very impressed with our other rookies. Moore has been good on Specials too.
Corner and Safety is a huge need for us going into 2017 draft.
100% agree. SSS needs to retire. Elam, Webb, Hester, Arrington and Lewis need to be cut. If it weren't for his relationship with Flacco, I'd move on from Pitta as well. I'm also in favor of moving on from Mike Wallace as well. No idea about his salary and all that though.
You have to find yourself a veteran #1 wideout. A sure handed player to move the sticks. Someone like Garçon. Then you move Perriman into the 2 spot. You have to develop Reynolds and Campanaro as the slot guys. While Pitta is a dependable pass catcher, we need more playmaking from that position. Maxx Williams needs to develop.
6 hours ago, kjbmore said:my point exactly, our problem with our secondary is we're depending on a guy who is injury prone - only reason elam was on the field tonight
need to move on, not totally but we need to build our secondary thinking jimmy will not play - we need to add a #1 corner and i would look to add another corner who can play slot but ok if called to go outside in a pinch
we look like - new #1 corner, #2 Jimmy, Tavon slot, - backups - wright, canady, another slot corner not powers
when Jimmy smith gets injured because he will, its just a matter of when
#1 corner stays where he is, tavon either bounces out or stays in the slot, wright, canady, draft pick comes in
2014 injured, 2015 injured, 2016 looks like were going down the same road
stop crossing your fingers and hoping injury prone guys will stop being injured, go out and get help
Jimmy is making a lot of money to be a #2. It would be hard to bring in a number 1 taking the cap into consideration.
Just now, jdynamite said:They only need what 15 yards for FG and it's over. Lol
A first down ends it
Onside kick here. A first down ends it either way.
2 minutes ago, jimmypowder said:Pats making us look like fools
Like the fools we are...
This is getting embarassing now..
The field looks so small when Bmore is on offense. But so large with green grass everywhere when Brady is under center.
1 minute ago, drillem said:this is the scene in the movie where brady goes down the field for another td
Brady is going to end this very quickly.
1 minute ago, reed20 said:Of course we throw short of the sticks
Anything over the sticks would probably get picked off.
I don't get it..... This is a bend but don't break defense... We can't even bend them.
- Flacco looks flustered
- Their wideouts are way more aggressive on those 50/50 balls than ours
- Jimmy can't stay healthy
- Brady is throwing the ball with pinpoint accuracy
2 hours ago, wizard1 said:Unfortunately the slide begins tomorrow. I have this game a toss-up but the problem is the Dolphins are just a tad bit better offensively and that makes all the difference. It will be close but not to close to call . Dolphins win 24-20.
Ah, look who's back. You've been predicting this slide since week 4.
21 minutes ago, Tru11 said:unless you think tebow and orton are off the same caliber as flacco , compairing them makes little sense.
Orton during Thomas' rookie season put up very comparable, if not better, stats than Flacco this season.
8 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:In some people's defense (though I agree with this premise), while Perriman didn't play last year, its still technically his 2nd year in the league.
If Perriman were doing this exact same thing last year, there probably wouldn't be as much complaining (there would still be plenty, but not as much).
I agree that he is, for all intents and purposes, a rookie this year, but missing a whole season due to injury puts you behind the 8 ball already.
If we follow the logic that many NFL WRs seem to have the "breakout" year in year 3, when the game really starts slowing down for them, then that would essentially be year 4 for Perriman. That puts the team in a quandry when it comes to determining if he's worth a 5th year option or not, as they'd have to make that decision prior to the 2014 season.
Just something to think about when that time comes. If he plays on the same track, his "breakout" season might be in a contract year.
Anything short of OBJ as a rookie, people would complain.
6 hours ago, redrum52 said:Let me start by saying I think DT is overrated. Second, who was his qb his first 10 games?
I personally don't think the comparisons match, but that's me.
Kyle Orton ... who threw for 3600+ yards and 20 TD's.
For fun...
Perrimans first 10 games of his career....
42 targets
20 catches
280 yards
1 TD
5-5 record
Demaryius Thomas first 10 games of his career...
39 targets
22 catches
283 yards
2 TD's
3-7 record
2 minutes ago, PoeDinkum said:Well let's see. A sputtering offense put up 3 points in the second half, undisciplined penalties kept an inferior team in the game, and a final play that doesn't inspire any amount of confidence in a fan base, let alone players. This aint' going to work against the Patriots, Steelers, or probably Eagles, but sure...we both saw a victory, I just didn't see a playoff team this year.
One...game...at....a....time....
7 minutes ago, PoeDinkum said:Stay classy, Ravens. Seriously. No wonder the Patriots trounce our tail. This is how we are closing out games?!
I saw a win... what did you see?
Cinci
Miami
@ NE
Eagles
No reason why this team shouldn't be at least 8-6 heading into our Christmas Day showdown with Pitt. Harbs needs to make sure his players and coaches are prepared for the road ahead. One game at a time. Let's take care of homefield and give NE our best shot. I'm hoping the Bengals are far out of playoff contention by week 17 and will be positioning themselves for the draft, allowing us to take advantage.
If only our offense could look as crisp and prepared as it did during that first quarter drive. Hopefully Jimmy is back healthy and Wright can stay far off the field.
I truly think Flacco misses having a Ray Rice kind of RB behind him.
in Ravens Talk
Posted · Edited by Edug27 · Report post
If you were listening, you would have heard the 4 names I gave you.