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Wouldn't be surprised if Henry is kept behind the curtains pretty much til the real show opens. Do not want to tip off teams to much about what the defense has. So when the act opens, opponents will not have schemes and plays to adjust its oline scheme and play calling for such a skilled rookie penetrator. I know it's only ota. But rumors are he is more impressive than Jernigan.

Looks increasingly likely ravens run a 4-3. Only void would be Weak side lb that can cover. A signing or trade maybe.

Is that Wagner blocking him??

Lots of things have me curious. Will Dixon wrestle touches away from forsett. Will Chris Moore's route running and lower body/ankle suddenness show up as a rookie. Kufusi reshape his body for edge rusher role. Is Henry tacking on muscle and attitude like he guaranteed. Perriman and campanaro keeping injury free once training camp begins. And forming a potent trio with Chris moore. Maxx in better shape showing routes and speed of a big WR. Will ravens go with the most potent and dominant interior oline trio of Jensen at left guard and Urschel at center which has a legit chance of being the best in the league. Correa adapting to lb in a hurry and being an x factor blitzer. T young winning a starting role from solid vets would be huge. But most of all the news and rumors about The Will Henry. Team coaches and trainers see how strong he is in the weight room and heard about his 2gap skills. But his power in otas has downright shocked everybody. His explosion and flexibility impressed everybody but the power he has displayed for being an athletic fast penetrator has shocked some. There are whispers among trainers and coaches that can not wait to see him in pads. Jernigan is impressive this season. He is in better shape,stronger explosive and could be a double digit sack producer. However the whispers are that Henry is already more impressive and skilled than Jernigan. I was curious to see him cut 12-16 -lbs of fat and tack in 10-13 lbs of functional muscle while coaching up his technique and join the elite interior rusher stable of Atkins Donald and Short. But it sounds like he could of already arrived. I'm curious to see how true the rumors are. Even then i would like to see him cut 12-16 lbs of excess and tack on 10-13 lbs of functional muscle ( he could add that without slowing him any) and compete for the title of best defensive tackle in the league.

Tunsil is all power and explosion. His feel for the position and offense is overrated.

Failed in college. Like I said he needs to reshape his body a little for the edge. Like drop 16-20 lbs carefully without losing any muscle or power. And tack on a little muscle. However I do agree 4-3 defensive end is his best position by far.

Agree, Totally!! Kufusi is not an interior player. He is best served a 4-3 defensive end and 3-4 olb. For that role he needs to cut 16-20 lbs of excess weight and tack on 10-12 lbs of muscle and play at a leaner faster more explosive yet stronger 280lbs. He will be a freak that stresses tackles similar to watt. He will be a 280 lb edge rusher with power and freakish athleticism. Tackles are more finesse. Tackles needing more power are being drafted #2 and overall. A big strong edge rusher with unusual athleticism like kufusi will seriously stress tackles!! Kufusi could be a 280lbs and play at 4.75 speed while putting up 30 reps and a 34" vertical. He already bends well and plays with advance technique. Ravens need a freakish edge rusher like what Kufusi could be. Most nfl tackles could not contend with that. Kufusi Jernigan Henry and Dumervil would be very disruptive.

Don't say he is out for the season. The Kufusi injury sucks because he needs to be in the gym tweaking his body for his shift to the rush olb/ 4-3 defensive end position. He is not an interior player in the nfl. He is in the mold of Julius peppers and Jared Allen. He needs to cut some excess weight and tack on a little muscle to play up to his optimal standard. a leaner faster more explosive and a touch stronger and No reason he can not be as good as Jared Allen.

He can mature his muscularity but he can't tack on to much size. He just doesn't have the frame for it. lol his arms are already bigger than are long. When I say cut excess. I mean cut fat without losing size and power. His arms and legs are short and his shoulders are not very broad. As a matter of fact he looks about 255 now. He looks a lot thicker than his play weight in college. He is not super defined but he is very thick and musclebound. He has really good burst but he can not bend very well. Kufusi at 6'6 285 can bend better than Correa. You hear very often so,e players do not have the frame to carry much extra bulk without slowing him down. Then some players can add muscle without slowing him down any.

So what would you suggest how to make projections. I agree the eye test is only part of the equation. If you believe he is wrong then counter him and explain. You can't just say somebody has no idea what he is looking at. Explain. I'm open to different opinions on the matter. Me personally, Harbs looked dejected when discussing tunsil. But again,only part of the equation

To pick up where we left off. I'm not really in love with the round5 and later players. Except Mcgovern, Lashaun Sims and peake. With that said I would package the picks and get back into round4 and take Reshard Robinson. He is the best cornerback in the draft. T. YOUNG IS very underrated as well. He is very comparable to janoris Jenkins and Chris Harris. If ravens did not trade down from the #6 overall pick for some extra picks then I have an alternative idea. I really like the mid rounds of this draft. I mean it is loaded with players that have round1 traits. So with that said I'm trading next year's #1 to a team like Cleveland or Dallas for several picks in rounds 2-4. With the round2 pick I would take Cravens or Deion jones. Unless ravens got Correa in round2 cuz in really believe his future is at lb. But if ravens take Spence then a 3 down cover lb is needed. Unless ravens plan on signing somebody or pulling off a trade. In round3 the pick would be Coleman. He has similar skills to Tunsil and Stanley. He is very strong and athletic. He could play tackle or guard. His power is similar to KO. Ravens oline would be quite set. In round4 ravens would pick up one of Malcolm Mitchell and Demarcus Robinson. And putting Alex Lewis back on the shelf. I know it seems a little crazy to draft 3 WRs in round4. However all 3 have a complete skill set. There is nothing wrong with healthy competition. And the best WRs will play!! Ravens have not drafted a stud WR ever!! In like 20 drafts now!! And it is time to fix it for sure!! As much as I like Chris Moore, Mitchell and Robinson have top shelf skills as well. Coleman and the 2 WRs in the mix with Ron Stanley,Chris Moore and Dixon gives the ravens more young offensive talent than ever!! I know peeps do not like the idea of giving up a round 1 pick but picking #6 this year is tempting to teams to give up several mid round picks to hopefully get an extra top10 pick. If ravens could get a 2-4 and add Cravens or Deion Jones, Coleman and Malcolm mitchell, then that is quite a run of talent to get this draft!! And not having any glaring voids. Some may say not having a round sucks. But it is better to have backup plans for injuries and busts. If Perriman and Campanaro is injured again and Wallace lost a couple steps then there is 3 fast skilled WRs. IF Ron Stanley struggles til he adds muscle then there is a backup plan at tackle. Not to mention Cravens is the hybrid physical coverage lb the ravens need badly. Putting this talent together now favors having a 7-9 season or worse and having to go into the off-season trying to fix holes and wait til 2017 season to compete. If ravens have holes and struggle out of the blocks then it is a wasted season and we have to go into the off-season hoping to fix holes and wait til the next season. This way there is a one draft reload. And this deep draft presents a rare opportunity to really load up on talent. A run on talent like Stanley,Cravens,Spence,Kufusi,Coleman,Young,Chris Moore,Malcolm Mitchell,Will Henry,Reshard Robinson,Demarcus Robinson,and Dixon could make for an all time great draft!! If ravens could not get a round 2 as part of the trade then some of the picks could be adjusted. Because there are additional players in rounds 3 and 4 I like. I like this draft so much I would even consider trading next year's round2 for a couple extra round4 picks. If ravens got a nice offer for pick#6 for a load of picks Coleman could be an option at left tackle. Could of maybe even traded down several spots and still get Tunsil. But drafting Stanley then trading next yrs #1 for extra picks is the route I would go. I know it is a less traveled backwoods route but that is where you see and learn cool new stuff.This draft is so deep in rounds 2-4 and ravens picking #6 this year could temp a team to take a shot at a top10 pick next yr and trade several picks. Ravens have yet to draft a stud WR and Moore,Robinson and Mitchell could all he studs!! Then ravens have trade bait!!

McClellan is a dude that seriously needed to get in shape!! He was not a defensive end!! He weighed 270 lbs but was very sloppy. Strip the excess weight off McClellan and you have a 230lb defensive end. Can't believe anybody collecting a check to make decisions would draft that guy in round1!! Correas frame is maxxed out. If he adds weight it is detracting his nice burst and already limited flexibility. If anything he should lean out to play ilb or 4-3 olb.

Chris Moore's game speed is about even to torrey's. Chris Moore pulled away from Eli Apple who ran a 4.40 and Jackson who ran 4.37. And Chris Moore's Sharp sudden routes are going to surprise everybody!! Somebody mentioned him running upright and not much forward lean. That is not a bad thing. As a matter of fact it is awesome he runs upright!! A wr that runs top speed upright and can maintain speed has a huge advantage because he can do all the things a receiver needs to do in catch and track position. That is a huge advantage over a wr that needs forward lean to maintain his speed or cut because the upright receiver can track and catch the ball. Much like Randy moss could run up right and wave he is open while adjusting to the throw. That is how Chris Moore roasts top cornerbacks and can make him look bad. He can run top speed in track and catch mode which puts him in better position to catch and run. The cornerback has to transition while Chris Moore is already in position to make the catch.

Davis and young will get playing time over Wright and powers by playoff time and will be Impact cornerbacks. T.young is more than just a slot. He can play outside as well.

Prefer a priest Holmes but keep him!!

If I were drafting for the ravens I would tweak the picks. I would consider trading out of 6 for extra picks with this being a deep draft. Round1 pick6 I would consider trading Down for extra picks. But without knowing what we could get for the pick the pick would be left tackle. I'm not holding marijuana against a young player if he has not failed any drug tests in a couple yrs. There is a difference in smoking it at a party and a pothead like Blackmon. With that said it will not mean I would pick him over Ron Stanley. It means it is not a clear easy decision to pick stanley like some are making it out to be. I do believe Stanley if he gets as strong as Tunsil or even close will be the better tackle. However Tunsil is the put together batteries included product out of the box. As opposed to Ron Stanley will need some charging up. He has to get stronger. That is not optional. I would pick Ron Stanley but only once he is brought in to ravens facility for a visit. And he is put through a short but intense weight training session to see how he handles it. Is it something he takes to and looks comfortable doing. And looks like something he will do every day to get stronger. Then hit protein shakes and a strict nutritional regimen every day to get stronger for the edge rushers he will play in the nfl. It is a legit excuse his college schedule got in the way of such a program. If he looks motivated to hit the weights hard and nutritional programs to get stronger, then Ron Stanley is the pick. If he gets stronger he could be all pro considering all his attributes. If not then Tunsil or trade down are the options. If there is a trade down It would be cool to get a mid-late round 1 as well as a round 2 and round 3 pick. With additional round 2 and 3 picks to go With the round4 picks the ravens could reload impact talent in one draft if cards are played right. If we were to trade down to mid late round1 then I would consider Nkemdiche. The freakiest talent in this draft, arguably anyways. Round 2. Have to go with Spence or jack. Correa is the more pro charged up lb (out of he and spence) if the ravens are converting a 4 -3. Which in that case Correa could be considered. With Jack's injury Correa would be considered and likely pick if jacks injury is serious. He could be a real difference making 3down fearsome olb in the 4-3 that excels at blitzing. But if we're talking edge rusher olb in the 3-4 scheme then have to go with Spence in that case. Closest to the prototypical rush olb in the draft. Lb skills can be taught and matured. Raw edge rush skills can not. Once again if were talking pure ilb if ravens remain a 3-4 defense then trading down to pick up a round 4 pick and grabbing Deion Jones is an option as well. Round 3 is where it gets interesting. IF trading down in round1 and picking up extra picks then with that pick ideal would be S. Coleman. He has as much raw skill as Stanley and Tunsil. Very athletic with top shelf power. Round 3. With original round 3 pick I'm going with Kufusi and tweaking his body for edge rusher olb in ravens 3-4 scheme and edge rush end if ravens run the 4-3. I would have trainers give him special attention and push him to train hard and tweak his nutrition to cut 16-20 lbs of fat while tacking on 10-14 lbs of functional muscle. The goal is to get him at a leaner and faster/more athletic yet stronger 280lbs. He will then be a man among boys at edge rusher. Round 4 gets really interesting.I would not change draft picks t. Young, Chris moore, and total draft steals Dixon and Will Henry............

I really liked most of ravens picks. I'm deciding on some minor tweaks and skimming through games to finalize who I'm replacing Alex lewis with. Interesting you have Cravens replacing Correa. Especially with coaching putting Correa at ilb. A more experienced ilb that is very good in coverage makes a lot of sense. I mean, I believe Correa has the speed,intensity and intellect to be a sideline to sideline tornado. And I really like him at olb if ravens move to a 4-3 scheme because he will really excel at blitzing. But if ravens leave him at ilb, a more natural and experienced lb like Cravens that excels at coverage in the modern dart throwing league is more ideal.

Ravens are #3 in the division til proven a better team. I'm sure ravens will rebound after a nice draft class and maxx getting in shape. Rookies will be difference maker's

His speed and ball skills are reminiscent of Sanders. His extra gear is bank!! Like I said to see his speed in and out of breaks you have to watch games and plays he is not the primary target. When he is running in high gear to throw the defense off balance. He is not as fast in his breaks when he is the primary target cuz he is trying making himself visible to a terrible qb that can not find a wr in traffic running shifting gears and accelerating. To get a feel for his explosion you need to view plays where he is not the primary wr. And running full speed to throw off his opponents. You will be quite impressed. Why do you think he surged just before the draft?? Mayock and analysts got around to his tape in situations he was not the the primary target to get a feel for his potential and explosion in routes

Chris Moore is not stiff at all!! To get a handle on his fluid route running you have to watch him running routes where he was not the target. And watch him zinging in and out of breaks. You say he is stiff cuz you see him catching a lot of long throws. His qb could not hit him in traffic on intermediate routes. His qb is terrible!! But you watch him running a route over the middle to throw the defense off and you see he is very sudden in his breaks and very explosive out of breaks. He has similar skills of Marvin jones, John Brown and even reminds you of Chad Johnson if you watch him run routes at top gear over the middle and how sudden he is. Now of a an can hit him in stride he will outperform many of the early round WRs. His play speed suggests a far faster 40 time!! He impressed at the senior bowl. Sometimes WRs do not run their best at the combine. Chad Johnson ran a 4.58 yet was lightning fast. Chris Moore pulled away from 4.3 cornerbacks.

Ravens will eventually hit on WRs now that it is actually drafting WRs. I like Malcolm Mitchell ever so light touch better than Chris Moore but Chris Moore is very skilled and one of the more underrated WRs in this and any draft!! He played with a terrible qb in a vanilla system and still thrashed top cornerbacks and made it look easy. Actually i would of found a way to take them as a tandem. Great athletes and ever so underrated!!

Tough to say because we are not sure about his potential cuz his qb was so terrible. He waited on most throws. His route running is a surprise cuz he was never hit in stride on intermediate routes. His qb could not hit him in stride. I said after the draft to really scout his route running you have to watch games he was not the targeted wr and watch him zing in and out of breaks with suddenness sharpness and burst and say only if his qb could hit him while running that way!! He is taking yoga and gymnastics for flexibility so it is tough to say how good his skills are and could be. If I were to say what receiver you think of watching him play. I would guess he has similar skills to Marvin Jones. A very good wr overshadowed by very good options he shared targets with. He has some similar skills of Emmanuel Sanders, John brown and Torrey Smith as well. In some ways he reminds you of maclin.

Well that explains it. With his skillset, if he were practicing there would of been some news or rumors around the gym. I know fans are excited about Wallace but I'm rooting on a rookie teammate to outperform him once again!! I really really like Chris Moore. He could of led ncaa in TD catches if his qb was not so terrible. He waited on every throw yet roasted round1 cornerbacks anyways. One element of his game I'm very intrigued with is his run after catch. He never got the opportunity cuz of his qb couldn't hit him in stride. With his elite burst it is interesting to see his run after catch in Trestmans offense. I'm rooting for him to be a steal and Campanaro and Perriman avoid injury to set the standard for a young trio of WRs. Throw in max who is in far better shape this year and Dixon and ravens will have its best offense since the inaugural season when ravens were #2 in scoring in weeks 9-17. And With a powerful athletic oline and Watson for 2TE sets and the offense can really have some serious bragging rights!! Ravens can run various potent schemes blending run and throw, methodical drives and big plays. Having 2 TEs with wr speed and functional blocking skills will keep opponents off balance. Bring in extra dbacks to cover a te tandem that run and catch like big wrs and ravens dominant oline with big athletic TEs will blow opponents off the ball and penetrate for big play runs. Bring in packages to prevent the run and the TEs that run like WRs will torch opponents with big play throws. And there are yet 3 fast talented young WRs opponents have to play and contend with!?

Have not heard anything on Dixon yet. Moore I hear looks sharper in routes than thought and snagged some tough catches from really awkward positions. Never liked and rooted this much for a ravens drafted wr. Peculiar I have not heard anything about Dixon

Forget one draft pick standout. I'm rooting for this to be the best ravens draft in over a decade. Ron Stanley has upside to be all pro but he has to get stronger. Reports in camp of him getting thrown around I'm sure are exaggerated. But he must be getting overpowered on some level for it to be a story. With top shelf work ethic and tweaking their body for speed and power there are several players that could make an impact. And if cards are played right there should be an impact from several players. Ron Stanley,Kufusi,T. Young, Will Henry,Dixon, Chris Moore SHOULD all make an impact or production,power and speed will be left on the table. Example Kufusi is not an interior player any way you slice it. He should be getting after cutting 16-20lbs to lean out and obtain speed and explosion to play rush olb or 4-3 defensive end. He can tack on 12-14lbs of muscle without slowing him down. Ravens are more advanced than rival teams with training players to lean out and tack on muscle and clean overall eating habits. So this talented rookie class are likely getting to work leaning out for speed and building muscle and power. If the cards are played to optimal results,this class should have ravens in the arc championship game. Anything less would be failure and dropped potential