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I got ridiculed for saying Diggs was not far off of Coopers talent. And if he did not get injured and he played with a good qb in a good scheme then he would be the #4 WR drafted.

The ravens need building blocks on both sides of the ball!! Not Harbs' fault. There is nothing good about Perriman on the sidelines. He is supposed to be learning. Then if he trips next year everybody will say give him a chance this is really his rookie year. The TEs are useful but not building blocks with superstar talent The ravens are a bad team. Everybody wants to blame coaches and coordinators for a team being terrible. Fire Pees Fire Trestman but the guy that put the ravens in their spot seems above reproach?? Seems most fans want to applaud him for drafting mediocre players, hand him a stack of get out of jail free cards for busts and bad signings. Fans make excuses for his busts, Pat him on the back and be content when he finds a mediocre player. Then make excuses for his failure to find much if any pro bowl talent in the last 6 drafts. Not only that but his flock is content with his mediocre players and even sometimes pimp them out as successful drafting. Then call for the firing of every coordinator because the ravens are losing. Yet most fans are content with these mediocre players. Can you blame a driver for not winning a race with a slow car??

lol thanx

I'm baffled by fans that really believe a team enters the drafts looking for mediocre players. Did not they trade down?? So whose fault is it their first pick was #35?? And do you want a list of impact players drafted after that?? And did not they say " we feel we got the best edge RUSHER in the drsft??1 impact players for 2 mediocre players?? that can be pulled off practice squads. Edge setters can be found in mid rounds. If that is seriously how Ozzie thinks these days.... Hang on for the ride!! Strap in it is gonna get bumpy!!

Ozzie pursues to many players out of their prime. Many of the WRs did nothing. Free agency needs to be approached like the draft. Do not look for the WR that has 12000 yards, find the next WR that is going to catch for 12000 yards. Free agency or even trades should be viewed as coached up draft picks. There are many talented players that need one or more of opportunity, coaching,scheme,motivation,structure,supporting cast to breakout. Emmanuel Sanders and Brandon Lafell are 2 examples. Sanders did not click with Ben and was not comfortable with the scheme or his role. Cam is not a rythym pocket qb that gets the ball out fast and therefore does not allow his WRs to play fast. If Brady did not already have years of chemistry with Gronk and Edelman, Lafell would have had 1300 yards or more and 10 TDs. With limited cash, the ravens need to approach free agency looking for real bargains!! The players ready to breakout. Not so called has beens. Players that need a good QB or disciplined hard working team structure and motivstion and detailed schemes. Lafell raised a mob in Carolina when he said the patsies work harder and are more detail oriented. I like Marqise Lee, Paul Richardson and Brian Quick. I know only the latter is a free agent but the other 2 WR's teams could audition trade offers. Richardson is coming off injury while his team has added other weapons already. Marqise gets minor injuries that prevents him from building any chemistry with his young QB while he is also a young player. Quick is a rare talent whose raw skills are compared to T.O. He hit some breakout games even with a terrible QB before Quick was injured. He is known for a Gronk like work ethic and runs 100 routes a day and practices adjusting to various errant throws. His hard work and rare skills were paying off before his injury. His body control and catch radius is among the best. And he runs very explosive sharp routes for his size and has surprising run after catch moves for his size. With a good QB like Joe he could pick up where he left off and be a Sanders like Bargain.

ANOTHER Brilliant signing by Ozzie.

So the ravens #1 pick was expected to be a role player?? No surprise they are 1-6 with that thinking

He is not happy. He would like to turn this around but the team is strapped against the cap because of bad contract structure and overall bad signings and the team is on the hook for eratic and declining players. Suggs and Dumervil are not going to be that dominant tandem next year at going on 34 and 35 yrs old. Jimmy is eratic and should not of been handed a contract so soon. Daryl Smith is going on 34 and a liability in some respects. Webb is now 30 with extensive injury history. Canty should not of been brought back. Pitta should never of been signed while on it. Considering Biscottis comments, i would say Biscotti does not like being this bad yet strapped down and can not do much to better the team.

Once Perriman returns and Brown returns to top form the ravens WRs will be quite formidable!! and light up the scoreboard. That will give the ravens 3 pro bowl caliber WRs and...... lolllllll I can not finish this with a straight face.

Amazing post and response!! lol, finding a player at the top of round 2 that is an impact player that can rush the qb is unreasonable?? So this is the modern idea of a ravens success story!! I'm not surprised they are 1-5. If calling him a disappointment over bust makes you feel better........ The defense is terrible and he is a huge reason. The defense returning to formidable status begins with replacing some players. Scrubshaw is one of those players.

Yep

He was practically a #1 pick. Getting after the qb is key. Edge setting is just minor details in the modern nfl. While Brady or Rogers is throwing for 400 yards and 5 tds who is really that worried about some obscure RB running for 80 yards. He was not brought in to be a role player. Ozzie even said we feel like we got the best edge rusher in the draft. So that is bull that he is not expected to rush the qb. Did Didnt Harbs say he would like to see more pressure on the QB from Upshaw. Saying he needs to be jj watt is an attempt to overblow the expectations he failed miserably to meet. Any team that this guy has any value to at a key position is not a contender. If this scrub is appreciated at all it means the team is that terrible the standards have been lowered. I never liked Upshaw from the day he was drafted.

Ravens could be looking at reload next year or 2. If they don't sign somebody they will not be much better next year. Unless they find a legit WR and SS returns and offense can carry defense. Who would want upshaw back?? He is a bust!!

I agree Gronk is a little unfair of a comparison. However my opinion, Maxx does not have the speed or suddenness of any of the modern players on that list. Nor any other modern impact TEs like Olsen,Thomas,kelce,Cameron,Reed,Clay or even Pitta before his injuries to name a couple. My point is this. He is not really an upgrade over Gilmore as a receiving threat. So what is the point in trading up for him?? And oz missed a lot of impact talent by picking Maxx. He will bulk up and add some muscle probably. But that is not babyfat!! At 21 a male is leaner than he will ever be naturally without nutrition and training programs. I talk about his flabby bod because he is no better or more explosive than Gilmore. And if he is going to be the receiving threat he was drafted to be then he needs to somehow find an extra gear. This draft is not the one to be picking a TE based on need.

lol exactly dude. But clean players with pro bowl talent are expensive and top draft picks. The ravens won with clean players. But in today's NFL Ray Lewis may have been cut.yikes!! Just because somebody does not have a ring does not mean they are not difference makers or game changers. The ravens have no impact players right now outside Yanda and Mosley if he is on. Dumervil is 32-33 and does not look to have the same burst he once did. Hardy does look like a psychopath but I heard he did not do everything the girl claimed. She did not even have marks for proof.

Hardy's was actually overblown. It was a good digging woman. Randy Gregory was a projected top5 talent. They found trace amounts of marijuana. I think he was worth a shot. He is leaps and bounds a better prospect than max Williams. I will say this. You bring in a game changer type player with some drama. If you trust your coaching,leadership motivation and atmosphere to keep him in line then you have a pro bowl player and a better shot at a championship. The drama major actually has a shot at being great if he walks the line. The talent deficient player you know is not going to be a difference maker. Wouldn't you prefer to take a shot at a championship?

Dude you talk like the ravens are the most talented team in the NFL and don't need anybody. The Baltimore pro bowlers are so talented they do not need to give drama players a shot to excel and stay straight. The ravens have a disciplined structure with leadership and motivation to keep players straight. Look at Will Hill. Talent wins games not choir boys. Biscotti is not signing these guys to a $100mil contract!! So they are not losing anything if these guys get into any more drama. Handcuffing the team because of Ray Rice is nuts and watering down the talent pool. Guys do dramatic things when they are young. But they mature and realize the $$ they could make or lose by staying out of trouble.

? I love the idea!! But how old will Dumervil be next year?? Going on 34?? Ravens need to find a replacement for Dumervil as well. They could sign Aldon Smith maybe?? A harbaugh had him the playing as one of the best edge rushers in the NFL. Bosa and Smith could make the ravens dominant again.

Just stop guys!! lol, Actually If they traded for a legit #1 WR(not saying it needs to be a julio jones)or very high end ascending #2 the offense could carry the defense and actually allow the defense to be aggressive and take chances. The oline plays intact and Monroe and Wagner returns to top form. They trade for a legit #2 WR who is ascending. Not somebody's #3 that benefits from playing next to an elite WR like Marvin Jones. Although I like Jones he is unproven when asked to be a good to guy that defenses focus on. And he would be just another game at WR position. They need to fix this WR thing right. No #3 WRs like Jones or old guys like Vincent Jackson. A legit ascending WR with good speed to partner with SS the TE's, the oline, and running game to really begin scoring points and carry the defense. If they did that I could realistically see 9-7.

I do not believe everything I hear. It has to come from tbe bull or from the bulls circle. I think a sf 49er scout among a couple others qualifies.

He probably is. So why wasn't he cut?? Is Ozzie worried about his rep dumping a round2 pick this early??

The only thing so called irrational ideas I made was giving elite talent with some off field drama a shot in Baltimore. Players like Aldon Smith, Blackmon and Gordon once reinstated and Randy Gregory, Greg Hardy and the undrafted rookie guard for the cowboys, Hardy and Washington from Arizona. That was such outlandish ideas huh?? As it was when I said the defense could begin to struggle given the age of Suggs,Dumervil, and Smith and Webb. You would never mistake me for a big fan of Torrey Smith but at least his deep speed stretched and stressed defenses. Why is it a surprise that Aiken and Brown suck and the offense is without consistency. My opinion is elite talent wins championships. And the offense was going to struggle with 36 yr old SS as the only proven weapon. And my opinion is the ravens should of considered trusting the organization's structure and give a couple players with off field drama a shot with the ravens. It does not look like such a bad idea now. Does it?? The ravens need cornerstone players or some pro bowl talent. The 1-5 record is no coincidence. Outside of Yanda maybe whom is having a down year himself, the ravens will not have single Pro bowler or player in the top 100. The ravens need an influx of impact talent!! However management can find it. Because it is not coming from the draft class. And with the salary cap situation it is not coming from free agency.

Very fair assessment of Ozzie. I will say this I think Ozzie was very lucky at times. I received some inside the organization scoops on bad decisions made by oz that I did not know about. And I do not have a good opinion of OZ. However as lucky as he is, he made nice picks and decisions that resulted in Superbowls. And he deserves a shot to reboot the defense and team. However if none of this drafts picks show up as impact players by next year and if he gets no immediate production on next rookie class, he then should be on the hot seat.

Actually I change my opinion on Irvin. I got some info on what was the cause of his inconsistencies. I can not post in open about his inconsistencies but you can message me. Marqise Lee I maintain however will be a pro bowl or near pro bowl caliber receiver if he could get on the field and get on page with his QB. Hurns I wanted the ravens to draft all along. I said long ago there is no way in he** he should have went undrafted. I will say he is the more polished WR as of now but Marqise has a higher ceiling. Marqise coasted on raw skill and is just now learning details.

You know I am just being funny now right?? I am not arrogant or egotistical like that.