Many people believe that Joe is not elite. I agree with that, but if you look back on his eight years in the league, going all the way back to his rookie season, you will see that the defense, yes that mighty Ravens defense that everybody thinks was awesome, lost a lot of game in the last minutes of regulation after Joe put the team back in the lead. Ben Rothlisberger was really good at it. There were also times when his receivers let him down on game winning drives, Lee Evans, TJ Houzmensadah(sp), Owen Daniels, Derek Mason, and recently Steve SMith among others. No Joe is not Elite, and some of his decisions drive me crazy, like in Denver the Superbowl regular season among others, but he is the best QB this team has ever had. If he had real playmakers at the Wide Receiver position during all of his seasons, we'd probably all be singing a different tune. Boldin did that in the Superbowl post season, and we all know how that ended up. The NFL is more of a team sport then any sport. Everything has to work in order for the team to win. If it doesn't, you don't win the big games that matter.