12 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:Wow that is the boldest prediction yet! Why Elliott when they can take Ramsey? Not saying it's a bad pick but still...
I considered Ramsey, but there are some good cb prospects in the 2nd round. Also, I think Zeek brings a quicker improvement to the team. Then there's the fact that I've been pushing him awhile too so there you go. From what I understand, SD would be satisfied with either Tunsil, Ramsey or Buckner, so I think it makes sense even if Dallas took one of those, but then, I'm not their GM.
I have to agree with Flex on being dissapointed with Zeek's apparel choice but I still want him to be a raven. Hopefully he'll look back one day and say what the heck was I thinking?
Prediction: Ravens trade with San Diego, give up 3rd round pick and take Elliott before Dallas can snatch him up.
This comment by Jack puts a bit of a bit of a negative on La Canfora's article implying that his injury was not so bad. Can't believe everything you read.
52 minutes ago, The Greek said:myles jack should have kept his mouth shut.
Maybe, or just maybe he was being honest. Maybe he has a conscious. If so, then good for him. Maybe he won't get drafted at all. Football and money aren't everything and they don't automatically mean success or happiness in one's life. Okay, done preaching..
I picked Elliott as that's who I've been pushing even when he wasn't a popular pick, but what's becoming more apparent is that Dallas might take him first. This is Mayock's pick, but I'm sure I've also seen it elsewhere. With Mcfadden gone they could use his versatility and also take pressure off Romo. Something else Mayock said and I think he might be right about is Jerry Jones is having visions of the Emmit Smith days and wants to bring that era back with Elliott. Hope I'm wrong. I really want Zeke.
Here's a question: Would having a young Ray Rice have improved our chances last season? I believe so and I also believe that Zeek Elliott is better than Ray Rice. Elliott is a better blocker; where as Rice would usually fall in front of an opponent, Elliott actually gets up in his face. This would help Joe tremendously and give him more time. Again, we were 26th in rushing last year and yes injuries were the biggest part of that, but also losing Kubes and his blocking scheme didn't help either. Elliott brings quickness finding the hole, can catch the ball and has great speed for a rb. Good luck catching him once he's out of the backfield. I love Buck, but having both Zeek and him taking turns would make our run game as dangerous or almost as our passing game especially with so much speed. Good luck to opposing dcs trying to game plan for our offense. Forget Richardson, he's done. JMO.
I'm hearing that Buckner might not be that good at pass rush. If that's the case, then why not trade down and get A.W Robinson and pick up another 2nd or 3rd? Not my first choice, but Robinson may be as good as Buckner if we're talking about just stopping the run. Read once that he's built like a vending machine. Would you run into a vending machine? No, of course not. Smart people don't run into vending machines.
With the 20th pick in the NFL draft the New York Jets select Paxton Lynch.
If Zeeke is still on the board I hope we take him over Jack or Buckner. If not, then trade down if we can find a partner.
On 4/19/2016 at 2:14 PM, rmw10 said:Update from La Canfora on Jack. Sounds like there are still some question makes (as there should be), but nothing too bad. Sounds like everything has been overblown
I hope that whatever team Jack lands with that he has a long and productive career, whether it be with the Ravens or whoever. However, this article does nothing to change my mind that it would be best to give him a pass. For one thing, it was already pretty obvious that all the chatter about his knee being that bad might have been planted by another team or teams, but so what? That doesn't negate the fact that there is still a risk of him either reinjuring it, having difficulty playing to his potential, or worst not being able to take the field period. Didn't La Canfora say that he spoke to different execs with different opinions? Does this mean that the ones who might still be concerned with the injury are automatically wrong? Also, why isn't this so called nefarious team being called out if La Canfora is so certain that they weren't on the up and up with their info? As far as Jack himself is concerned, of course you want what's best, but there's also the good of the team that takes him too. Eighteen months, what about further down the road? Shouldn't we be more concerned with four to five years and even beyond that? Should he be the pick, then I will be a fan and cheer accordingly. If he goes to another team, it's pretty much a catch 22: Worst case scenario: Jack stays healthy and becomes a pain in the Raven's side for years to come. Best case scenario (Jack's sake) Jack stays healthy and becomes a pain in the Raven's side for years to come. Wish him the best either way.
6 hours ago, sflegend89 said:*Note: You must click "Reveal Hidden Contents" at bottom of page to view our picks
1. Los Angeles Rams: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota St. - Wentz appears to be the favorite for the #1 overall pick, tall, athletic, perhaps a bit raw but they think he can be special.
2. Philadelphia Eagles: Jared Goff, QB, California - The Eagles must either like both QB's a lot or have inside info on who the Rams are picking to have made this trade. Either way we now know Wentz/Goff will go 1-2 regardless of order.
3. San Diego Chargers: Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss - The Chargers get the #1 player on their board and add a future pro-bowl LT in Tunsil to their depleted OL that was a thorn in Philip Rivers' side in 2015.
4. Dallas Cowboys: Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida St - Big coup for the Cowboys, they cash in on the early QB action and come away with arguably the best player in the draft
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA - The Jags worked out Jack this week in LA and it's easy to envision a scenario in which they fall in love with him based on that workout. Ultimately the bum knee reports end up being false flags and Jack's top 5 status proves that.
6. Baltimore Ravens:
*Live on NFL Network*
Rich Eisen: The Baltimore Ravens are on the clock now. With Ramsey, Tunsil, and Myles Jack off the board I wouldn't be surprised if Ozzie Newsome looks to trade this pick, what do you guys think?
Mike Mayock: Certainly a possibility. Joey Bosa the pass rusher from Ohio State makes a lot of sense here. Deforest Buckner is the top player on my board right now and he would be a great fit for their defense as well.
Rich Eisen: Hold on, the pick is in, it appears the Ravens will make a selection at #6. Let's go live to the commissioner.
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Roger Goodell: With the 6th pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, The Baltimore Ravens select...
Ezekiel Elliott, Runningback, Ohio State University
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Rich Eisen: WOW! The Ravens take Elliott, is this a shocker to you?
Mike Mayock: It's not the pick I anticipated, I thought they would go defense here, but it's not surprising. Elliott is absolutely one of the best players in this entire draft and he's the most complete Runningback we've seen in quite some time. Speed, Power, Balance, Catching, Pass Blocking, this kid can do it all, let's take a look at some footage.
Round 2: Baltimore Ravens: Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
Round 3: Baltimore Ravens; Deion Jones, LB, LSU
Absolutely love this mock.
If the Ravens avoid players with injury ?s and Eagles don't actually take Elliott for themselves, then I think he is our pick (BPA). Just can't see Eagles giving up that much for him. Then again, look at what L.A. Gave up for the #1.
With Elliott and possibly a LT in the later rounds for insurance against Monroe, we will have our best offense yet barring injuries. The only thing better would be to trade with SF and still get him.
46 minutes ago, ravensdan said:It should definitely be a major concern. If it's such a minor injury and yet he still hasn't run. That's a major concern. When you're picking this high you don't take that risk with other game changing talents available.
Agreed, it's not just making a bad pick on an injured player who may not pan out, but also what we coulda, woulda, shoulda gotten had we taken someone else such as Bosa, VH3, Elliott, Buckner or even Stanley.
Even if this scenario played itself out, I think we'd still be in great shape with either VH3 or Elliott because of what they both have to offer. With VH3 we'd be getting a possible turnover machine that we've been missing . Could very well make the difference in the outcome of some games and Elliott with his speed and vision would open up our offense and have opposing DCs scratching their heads. Especially if Perriman comes back along with Wallace and our TE crew. We would truly be an offense to be reckoned with. I'd be happy with either of the two, but prefer Elliott. Would be disappointed if we took Buckner over either of them and would then rather trade down.
21 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:Depending on how far back were talking I don't know how many of them will be available. I'm pretty confident both VH3 and Zeke go top 10.
i don't like Lawson at all and am not a huge fan of Alexander.
I wouldn't be a fan of taking a tackle with our first pick unless it's Tunsil.
i love spence - think he'll be the best pure edge rusher in the draft... But there's a chance we could get him with our 2nd pick as is, so i don't know if id like taking him with our 1st.
Not to say you're wrong... Bc the FO could see it differently than me and I trust their judgement more than my own... But I wouldn't be happy with any of those selections or being worthy of trading back.
I think you're right about VH3, but if Dallas and Philadelphia both pass on Elliott, then I think there's a good chance he falls past 10. That may be asking a lot. As far as the other players mentioned, they were just examples. You could substitute Dodd or Floyd for Lawson for example, or insert an OL like Spriggs. I just think we could do more for this team trading down for some very good players filling some much needed positions than taking a chance on just one (except maybe Ramsey). Especially if that player comes with a ? (injury) behind him.
I'm more than a bit cautious of taking a top pick with a history of injury, be Tunsil or Jack, and after last season with the injury count we had I'm not sure who could blame me. You're right also about how far back we trade down and also how many picks we are dealt. I'm envisioning two 2nds along with whoever's first or at least a 2nd a three and fourth. Of course this is besides our own picks we already have.
I love Spence and if it wasn't for his past he would probably be a mid 1st round pick from what I've been reading.
9 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:So, its now being reported that we're trying to trade out of the Top 10 to accumulate as many picks between 11-50 as possible where we see incredible depth and talent.
Say it ain't so!
Depending on how many picks and if we could actually start at number 11, I'd say go for it. You still have a lot of potential with Lawson, Spence, VH3, Alexander, Conklin and if Dallas doesn't take him with the fourth; dare I say it, Elliott.
21 hours ago, Ulawun said:Am I the only one that would be excited if we went against the grain and took Zeke? His presence would open up the run game and passing game so much. The one thing I have total faith in the Ravens drafting is to find good defensive talent in later rounds. It's still many months before the season starts and we can find plenty of talent still to fill necessary gaps in the defense. It's hard, to me, to turn down a player that can potentially give us 1000+ yards and double digit touchdowns. That's an impact to our season that'll be tough to emulate with a defensive player. Aside from Jack and maybe Buckner, Zeke would be a very noticeable presence on the field that'll give our offense an entirely new dimension. Im just not too comfortable with our RB's. We have an entire roster of great backup RB's but i dont think any of them are gonna pop. And if we can;t produce a solid running game, were gonna have a long season.
Not at all. I, and I think a few others have been plugging him, though myself not too often, but I don't post all that much. However I agree that he would be a difference maker and most likely a key part in turning potential losses into wins. I would take him over Buckner, Bosa and even Jack. With his vision and speed I think an offense featuring Zeek, SSS, Williams, Wallace and Perriman would be hard to stop. Not to mention Crockett and Watson. Only set back is just how many good pass rushers are in the later rounds? Also, we still need another LT to open up the running lanes.
'Needs to eliminate the false start penalties and stay focused through the whistle.' If that's the case, then another Michael Ore, we don't need.
Thinking maybe Rams look for new GM and head coach next season. That is if Fisher was included in this fiasco, which I assume he would have been. If not next season then soon after. Sheesh, still can't believe it.
8 hours ago, Halshayeji said:God bless you and your child. Parents like you are the true warriors and may your efforts never go unnoticed. Thank you SSS you truily are a man
Thank you for the kind words. There are a lot more parents out there. Autism is more prevalent than many realize.
Elliott with the 6th. Spriggs or Decker in the 2nd. Wouldn't be against another tackle or guard afterward somewhere down the line to beef up the right side. Doesn't matter who's running the ball if Monroe goes down injured again and people start coming through our oline, we're going to be throwing the ball a lot more than necessary..
As a parent of an autistic person; how SSS's going out of his way to make this young girl happy is appreciated.
12 minutes ago, law215 said:First , you don't need a first round pick to replace a 30+ year old ILB. You do realize Ravens have many other needs. Can Jack cover after a knee injury? What's his 40 time. Why no running drills at the combine? I think it's crazy not to be concerns. IMO
Agreed, you would think after the body count we had last season that it would be more of a concern. Think I got it right that time.
Too many good players available to take a risk on someone with a surgically repaired knee. Even if he is fully healed, but we have no way of knowing that for sure. Won't make or break us if we don't get him, but will hurt if he doesn't pan out because of long term complications to knee. Could be some time before we get a pick this high again. Lawson or trading down for Spence or even Alexander and getting more picks sounds safer.
17 minutes ago, J.O.14 said:This is a different injury, and all humans heal differently. Apparently he has made great strides, and I really doubt this turns into a big issue down the road. He would be a great pick for us.
You could be right, but to me great strides would have to include more playing time on the field too and that just hasn't happened yet.
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Was Monroe there too?