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  15 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

  15 hours ago, billiejean said:

  16 hours ago, Bohica5 said:

  17 hours ago, billiejean said:

  17 hours ago, steelraven said:

This Is an offensive league so I don't really blame the defense, at the end of the day the offense needs to score points and stay on the field to protect the defense. Why pay Flacco all that money if you want the defense to protect the offense? Tell Flacco to give half of that money he got and maybe they can build a defense. And I know people will start naming all these other QB's that got paid, well look at where there teams are, at home just like the Ravens and look at where they're ranked in QB ratings. Until that happens the Ravens will always be a 8-8 team or even worse. Only a hand full a QB's should get paid that amount of money because they can actually carry a team. Ravens shot themselves in the foot again when they extended Flacco's contract which set the team back again another 4 years. Ozzie has really been slipping lately.

I am sorry that you are unable to dictate the going rate for QBs in the league. There seems to be a misunderstanding of even basic Economic concepts here. And unfortunately, that is not surprising.

I am sorry you consider flacco an actual qb.......he's not worth wut he's getting paid........except on paper.....he looks sooooooo good on paper......totally agree wit steelraven here......but in reality its our below par head coach and Gutless front office which i am sure You think is jus peachy also........SMH

I am not sure if you read my post but if you get a chance point me to the place where I said anything about Joe Flacco or his skill level.

He's a constant subject for this guy... regardless of the topic, the Joe bashing just goes on and on. And let's not forget the coaching. Some folks I just can't understand. They seem to be here for one reason, and that's not to root to the home team.

not a lot to root for. The entire organization is in disarray worse than ever. And it all starts from the top

I think you need to get off our BUS! Perhaps Jacksonville, Chicago, 49, rams,jets, bills,and even Cleveland, might take you on their bus?

Ok I have read most of the post and I would like to ask a question. New England never has a good draft! as a matter of fact hell they lost draft picks! their draftin and unwillingness to pay big contract yet they consistently win year end and year out?

  4 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

maybe root isnt the right word. i'm rooting for them as much as anyone, always. It's just more than frustrating to see us continually making mistakes that only bottom tier organizations make. Ray and Ed made us competitive every year no matter what was going on. Now Sizzle is almost gone too. The drafting over the past 7 years has now been exposed to say the least. Harbaugh's very poor coaching has been exposed. And a very poor description for this year is the nicest way of putting it. Time management, coaching personel, not sending out the best kicker in the game nearly enough in all those close games, ZERO halftime adjustments, and the list goes on. Don't even get me started on his roster decisions either. Wright?? The guy got cut from the Chargers..then he couldn't even make the worst football team in the country. The 9ers (= with Browns). I repeat, he couldn't make the 9ers roster. So what do we do. Going into the offseason we decide and plan on that man to be the # 2 corner for the Baltimore Ravens. Behind injury prone Jimmy. In which case he would take over as the # 1. Game 1, he makes some good tackles vs a team that doesn't pass. Then he gives up like 4-6 TDS over the next 3-4 weeks!! And anyone that can see anything can see that he IS NOT GOOD at all. But we stick with him?? Can't imagine what would've happened this year without tavon...So, Harbaugh decides to stick with Wright through injury and awful play. Therefor, that terrific decision + Jimmy going down (happens a lot) + the wonderful coaching of Pees and Harbaugh leaves Mr. Wright one on one with Antonio Brown on the outside with the season on the line. By some Miracle, we still ended up in Pitt with the season on the line with 2 games left. I live for that as a fan. And then we have Wright on Brown...nothing else to say. Just a small example of how lame this season was all the way around. There should be a whole new staff coming in, but there isn't. I'm as a big a fan as anyone, just confused and pissed.
It's not like we're rebuilding and completely screwed, but some big time issues need to be addressed. Coaching needs to figure it out. We need to draft better, AND fill needs. And we need to find a way to condition and be healthier as a team in general. I know it's football, but we've been decimated by injuries for years now. I'm ready for the draft. Wouldn't mind seeing the Hawks, Pats, and Steelers lose though

And we gave Wright 13 Mill.....What the heck? between that contract and Flaccos......

I know right? I cant figure it out either. Why did they not just let Tavon stick brown? He could not have done worse and he could have chalked it up to experience. With wright I guess it was a good way to show the Ravens he is not worth the money and I don't believ he will be there next year

  3 hours ago, CQ1 said:

  9 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  13 hours ago, verified said:

we went from having one of the best front offices to one of the worst. This rosters been pathetic since ray lewis retired. Ozzie and the front offices inability to find WRs when it seems like these other franchises find them any and everywhere shows that their scouting procedures are out dated. Sucks to be a ravens fan post ray lewis era

It's sickening. I have nothing to do with Baltimore and have lived in Ca my whole life. Yet I honestly believe at this point, I'm just as die hard if not more than a lot of the people here. I sleep with Ravens stuff, wear, I love the Ravens more than anything just about. But everything that drew me to them over the years is fading, and almost gone for that matter. I'm not leaving my birds, but if Steve keeps up with this garbage I wont have a choice before long. not fair to the players or fans. I could go off for about 3 hours on how it's just simply disgusting that this staff is coming back. LIterally made me sick to my stomach when I saw it was so

Bingo! It just goes to show, more than ever- that a QB does NOT make a team. Flacco had received that huge contract through being with many other common denominator team mates that made the team what it was during a specific span. Now that nearly all of those team mates are gone- HE IS EXPOSED for what he is. Joe may be tall, rather durable, and have a strong arm- but so what, that is all that he exhibits. I don't believe that there is a lot 'upstairs' when it comes to Joe reading a defense or calling a play- or even knowing when to get out of the pocket / to extend a play. As the NFL has been evolving toward a pass happy league (due to the over protection of the QB- while there is little regard to other positions) the demand for a more dynamic QB and play calling are emerging- and quickly. Point blank, if we want to continue sticking with the same old, same old philosophies, and or, player/s, well then- we will just continue to underachieve, and thus stink.

In a QB driven league ALL QB's get paid. So you're OK with the Ravens going with Ryan Fitzpatrick? He's available.

ooooh man! point taken

  2 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  4 hours ago, stampedehero said:

In this years draft we should aim for the corners and lineman.   However, another 8-8 or 5-11 season can happen as we are a consistent 3 and out team.  

We need apass rusher first because if you can't get to the QB no corner can cover all day

WHats your thought on Solomon Thomas. I didn't really watched college this year, and have only studied a little so far. He looks pretty awesome though. I still think we need a CB first round. Esp with all the talent this year. I feel like there could be at least 2-5 future pro bowl cbs in the first round of this year. I've never really seen that before. And there is a bunch of talent elsewhere. In all honesty, at 16, I feel like we'll be getting a player that would go top 5 i a lot of drafts. Because of the overall talent in this draft. We still have to get the pick right though, obviously. I feel like we have to go corner for so many reasons. So far I really like Wilson, Tabor, Jones, Jamal Adams (saftey), and there's at least 3-4 other cbs people are talking about going in the first. I haven't looked much yet. Wilson looks like a remedy for Ravens football to me. Pair him with Jimmy Tavon and Weddle for years to come = secondary problems beyond solved, and probably the best in the league. Building the rest of the D around that would be fun imo

I was reading and listening to your post and found it most interesting until the end! You must be mad or crazy to think that Jimmy and Weddle should be considered as legit starters? You cant depend on Jimmy for crap! Look at his- story Never plays a whole season does Jimmy and Weddle too old and weak! why do you think SD got rid of him and they sucked this year and they didn't want him. Why didn't they feel he was a positive for their organization?

  2 hours ago, GENE2407 said:

I feel like people are in a coma sometimes. It has been extremely obvious that our secondary has sucked for the past 3 or 4 years and worse when our top corner can only play about 9 games a year. Now, all of a sudden I'm reading articles about how we need to improve our secondary. We should have done that last year when we had the #6 pick in each round. It's going to be alot harder now that we're back at #15-20. Ozzie needs to stop drafting guards and tight ends in the top rounds and get us some playmakers at the skill positions!

We DID improve our secondary. Look at the number of interceptions we had this year compared to last. We've allowed way less "chunk" plays. We have better safetys than last year. We have better corners than last year. You cant fix it in one year. We have made big gains and if we make the same amount of improvement next year we will be awesome.

we should have kept Monroe, and drafted Hargraves, or others that were available for secondary and God knows there were a few quality to choose from! Stanly is ok but we needed help else where

  2 hours ago, GENE2407 said:

I feel like people are in a coma sometimes. It has been extremely obvious that our secondary has sucked for the past 3 or 4 years and worse when our top corner can only play about 9 games a year. Now, all of a sudden I'm reading articles about how we need to improve our secondary. We should have done that last year when we had the #6 pick in each round. It's going to be alot harder now that we're back at #15-20. Ozzie needs to stop drafting guards and tight ends in the top rounds and get us some playmakers at the skill positions!

We DID improve our secondary. Look at the number of interceptions we had this year compared to last. We've allowed way less "chunk" plays. We have better safetys than last year. We have better corners than last year. You cant fix it in one year. We have made big gains and if we make the same amount of improvement next year we will be awesome.

Look how many we could have had? that got away? I watched Weddle miss two in one game!

  1 hour ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

Couldn't agree more with the article. We've been saying it for years now. Since Jimmy was selected, the team has SETTLED for value free agents and late round selections hoping on a wing and a prayer that they could find someone to step up and it's never happened. You reap what you sow. If you want to fix the issues and keep it CHEAP, you have to spend multiple high draft picks on the position all while fixing the damn pass rush.

...what pass rush, Rav'n Maniac???! We don't have one. Sizzle and Doom have fizzled out due to injuries and old age. They've both loss a step or two over these last coupla' years. I do admire both their play 3 or 4 yrs back, but right now it's abysmal.

Dude it over for them next year will be the last for t sizzle and doom they are old and their times have come to an end! Money wasted on doom at this late stag of his career?

  1 hour ago, Crusader said:

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  16 hours ago, law215 said:

I don't care what the offense did or did not do. A defense can not give up 21 points in the 4th quarter. And if it only take one player to have the defense fall apart, then it really was not a good defense.

It not a good defense but no matter what you can't have the defense play most of the other quarters. The offense 3 and outs is un acceptable.

The Ravens had nearly a 10 minute time of possession advantage over the Stillers, so that excuse doesn't wash for that game. Same for the Raiders game and the Giants game, also situations where the defense crumbled in the end.

I still for the life on me can not understand why Webb and Wright did not even try to tackle the receiver in bounds. Webb actually pushes him out of bounds on the first pass I watches that series three times and one thing stuck out NO LEADERSHIP. Ray & Ed would have been all over it. i.e Super Bowl. There is so much wrong with this team its impossible to nail it down to a couple of things.

I know, I saw that too. Where Webby pushed the Steeler receiver out of bounds instead of tackling him in-bounds. That's a rookie mental mistake that Webby shouldn't be making at this point in his career. The receiver was fighting for extra yardage...maybe a yard or 2, but let him have it cause the clock is more important at that stage of the game.

He got paid? Sometimes it seems that way when you look at it! As you say they have been in the league too long not to understand this. I am sure they knew to keep man in bounds because I would like to think that Dean made then aware of this? Even so it was something that the two of them should have been telling the other guys? and they are VETS!!!!!! Dumb Vets Now I see why San Diego got rid of him Sharice , Powers, Kendrick, Arrington that is over 30 years of nfl football! All that time you would think secondary would be great with over 3 decades of experience?

  1 hour ago, Derrel said:

I hope the Ravens FO guys were watching the Houston DB's working yesterday against Oakland, albeit against a 3rd string QB. Regardless, they covered the Raider receivers. Fantastic backfield play. As the article says, the Ravens have suffered from poor play from our guys for years, even back to Reed's final days. This is a passing league and you have to stop Brady, Ben, Rodgers etc. Ozzie has seemingly ignored this for the last few years. The trade for Weddle was a decent attempt but he wore down after 8-10 games(couldn't make the big play against Pittsburgh). IMO, time to make Jimmy a backup. He doesn't stay on the field. Ditto with Weddle. Rest are worth keeping. While on my soap box. the LB's can't cover receivers either. How many times did we see number 57 and 50 chasing down a guy after a 20 yard gain?

I like Weddle and he tries really hard, but he's slipping too. Sometimes he doesn't seem strong enough to bring down some of these big, muscular receivers or RBs. We always get good playmakers on the end of their career so we don't get much benefit from having them. It's like they say, "you get what you pay for."

He gets drug all the time he is too old! I have seen him try like hell but he needs to get to the weights or something! You know it was he who was trying to stop brown? He also aint crap on safety blitz. I watched him about four times in the last game blitz and took the same path everytime to the quarterback to no avail! He is too old but what better choice do we have?

  12 hours ago, b93333 said:

Lots of talk about getting rid of Harbs... think for a minute... you can't blame him for poor draft picks, poor personnel decisions, inflated contracts and poor QB play. He does as well as anyone could with the team they give him.

I'm sorry but yes you can blame JH as well as Ozzie, both in conjunction have the input & power to address, stock & build. But when you have so many 1st thru 3rd rnd picks that have become so unimportant the last few years and you rely on FA's & 4 thru 6 rounders to your not going to compete as witnessed the last 4 years.

I agree with your draft theory but I think we should give those last few early round picks till next year to progress. I believe most of them show up next year depending on the changes made. Players like Sharice Wright and powers are in questioned for change?

Basically what I saw demonstrated this season was an urgent approach for Flacco to get 4000 yds by any means! Him and his buddy (Pitta)? Most people for get about the big bonuses for reaching certain numbers in the NFL and contracts. Joe had never thrown for 4000 he came close two years ago and was on pace last year. Please forgive me if I am wrong but that was my perception of throw first run less?

Hello everyone, I for one am sorry that we missed the play offs and really expected it to go like it did. Our souls had already been ripped out! Nevertheless my question deals with playoff procedures? I post this because I know no else to go or ask professionally? Now I believe myself to be a real football stud when addressing situational game scenarios of how teams make the playoffs for over 3/4 of my life and I am 55? Or so I thought? During the game between Tampa Bay and Carolina, it was indicated that Indy, Mia, had to win, with a Cowboys win, and a victory over Carolina, Tampa would be in the playoffs. Now my problem deals with Idy and Mia being in the afc and having an impact on a nfc team. Mia played NE and Idy played Jacksonville? (all Afc). How did these two afc games have an impact on a nfc team?

Please someone help me I am so confused! Email me at tomkatt62@gmail.com
this information would really educate me in a field I once believed to hold a Major degree in? However, I have seen differently and need some mental therapy to educate me so I may help others understand, as myself. Then we all can stop giving our own theories (me and my football gurus friends). Please some one help me

I know everybody thinks the Ravens should contend for the Super Bowl every year, but the only team that does is New England. If Antonio Brown had come up 8 inches short and the Ravens won the won, people in Pittsburgh would be calling for Tomlin's head. Denver won last year and didn't make the playoffs this year. Think their fans are happy? How about Carolina fans? Cardinals, Colts, Bills, and Bengals all had lousy years. Should their coaches be fired? (Re: Rex Ryan -- YES.) Seattle has fallen behind the Raiders and played some terrible games this year. Should Pete Carroll take a hike? At least the Ravens field a competitive team. Imagine being stuck with the Browns, Jets, 49ers, or Rams! Yeah, Correa and Kaufusi have been busts so far, but look at how many rookies made an immediate impact -- Stanley, Lewis, Young, Moore, Judon, Dixon. Repeat that in the upcoming draft and the Ravens will remain a playoff-contending team.

I give all rookies a second chance? (Perriman) Imagine Correa and Kaufusi along with Smith (LB) all being productive next year? I smell a nuclear bomb! Along with the others you mentioned? But you are right there is no other fan I would want to be. But I am really feeling it! worst feeling since 11. Cant wait for next year already? Forward wind?

  22 hours ago, Zeus said:

Sounds Like damage control or some company fed PR Eisenberg. Wake up man...... you don't think this team underachieved in 2016??? Really??

Not according to most pre season predictions. Ravens were a 8-8 team this year. Keep picking draft picks that can't get on the field and that's were the Ravens will stay.

I read this also early before the season started? But I agree with so many draft picks not even getting on thee field? Campanaro is one of them! So talented, but stays hurt all the time. can be a wes welker type no problem. Correa, Smith, prime suspects? so much talent!! with these guys on the field how deep would we be? Jimmy starting to get on my nerves also. He has got to know it hurts us? He and shorty Young opposite? Best tandem ever ! miss the old days! Playing through injury! The love of the game? and didn't make this kind of money?

  2 hours ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

Joe really played a heck of a game but that also falls on the O-line playing well and giving Joe time and all of Joe's WR/TE/RB catching the balls thrown their way. and just my opinion but 1 of the best catches of the day was to Aiken when he popped the ball up and made a diving catch for a first down on the rebound. So many times this season we have watched Joe try to force things or make something happen and mess up and the WR/TE/RB drop very catch-able balls.

i very much agree. Big time players must make big time plays. When 30 players do it, this is what it looks like!

The defense showed their butts and rightfully so they were a healthy starting cast! Our D is starting to become deep with young players. One stand out to mention would be Tavon Young! For a second I held my breath as I thought the injury bug was attacking us again! What a relief to see him in the second half. I strongly confess our D goes how Tavon goes? That's not to say he is our best D player but he makes it easy for our safeties to cover else where? Example (Webb covering behind Powers?) the results? Joe reading the I pad? the results? Joe talking to Wallace about mistake?I was impressed to see this and this is how you do it!. OC has added flavor to our O! Good job really want to believe history repeats it self from latter years and December brings us tidings of great JOY!!!!!

Hello everyone I see there are only 11 comments on this subject which is a little disappointing? However, todays game was a fine example when 11 men (offense-defense) come together as a complete unit working like a fine oiled machine. Today does not mean that there is not room for improvements those are always needed but it did show us that what is on paper can actually perpetuate on the Football field? it was nice to see The Ravens offense finally show what we all knew they were and are capable of.

Loved watching this game today, Dennis Pitta said it best. The offense has so much potential, there are so many weapons, and we can be so good when Joe gets them the ball. He was dropping dimes all day on this Miami defense, if he and Morhinweg can play with this kind of confidence next week in New England it will be a heck of a game. So excited we finally put a game like this together against a genuinely good ball club, let's keep it rolling!

This is how it should be! So many weapons the other team cant really say who is getting the ball? Noticed Aikens now gets a lot of third down calls when Smith used to get them all. Heck 84 Waller sneaks in there ever more often now. On paper our offence is the Bomb and today it looked like it exploded!!!??? Man I hope this is a sign of more to come?

Great win, but those 5 loses are coming back to bite the Ravens in the butt. If they could have not goofed up just one of those games the Ravens would have some breathing room. Pitts is not going away quietly.

They never do?

  1 hour ago, purpledown said:

Flacco is not elite!! But he was good enough today. Hopefully this will continue, they have to run the ball in order to win. Tougher test next Sunday.

Nothing like a back-handed compliment,

True! Call it like you see it! Lol

It was a hybrid type "no huddle", more like an approach audible and some under center play action. Here we see how this offense will operate at its strongest. Flacco played Elite and he was more than good enough today! Beautiful. Defense nice job mixing it up, used some of the young guys and rotated well. One critique, Powers you need to stay on your toes, don't get caught flat footed and let the receiver get behind you with room. Its happened more than once this year!

Good observation! Powers is a weakness. When they see him in they attack! But this can be a good thing because Webb should now know what to do always help over the top on Powers side? Never leave him one on one! wright is the same way! Now my little gem Young! Beasty Boy! I was scared when I saw him go down?

I guess I should be happy because I have a feeling that's how we make it to the dance! His field goals will become meaningful. watch and see

  2 hours ago, Bat-mite said:

"Justin Kicker comes out to tuck...." :D

Wow, we have had Tucker and Stover. What an amazing legacy for a single team.

Says a lot doesn't it!

Hold on what about our best friend Billy? Don't we owe him some thanks? LOL

  4 hours ago, Drew P said:

Lack of talent. Gutless Defensive play calling and an average QB at best...blah

Agree with the first 2, the 3rd one is just Blah.

Blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ya right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5 hours ago, whobilly said:

Stop it. IF Jimmy did play the results would have been the same. This team is just not good enough. To many roster fillers drafted over the last eight years have killed us along with the majority of the early picks being MIA.

Did You watch the Game against the NY Giants, when Smith Shut down Odell Beckham in the first half. He had to leave and in the second half Manning and Beckham played pitch and catch to about 200 yards. The Game would of totally been different Yesterday if Jimmy smith was playing.

Tellim again!!!!!!!!!!!