2 hours ago, CharmCityChampions said:I'm not saying we didn't know he was like this, but at the same time the guy has been suspended all these times, you think he would learn and try to make the most of his most recent opportunity so it doesn't happen again. Not only is he hurting the team now, but he also just screwed himself for the 3rd time. Plus didn't he say something about turning a new leaf and changing when we signed him or something?
Actions speak louder than words.
13 minutes ago, RavensFan34950 said:My guess is Pees will be feeling the heat since we brought in other coaches on defense " cough cough his replacements". So he might be forced to think outside of his box for once and do something different. Atleast I hope.
Easily. Frazier could replace him if need be. Pees will have a short leash this year.
1 minute ago, hn68wb4 said:My favorite part about this signing is going on twitter and reddit to see all the Steeler fans act like they aren't mad
The contender comments are hilarious. Also, some of the people on the Ravens subreddit are delusional. Oh, and don't bother with PFT. You probably already know that though.
Just now, rmcjacket23 said:We will see what the yearly breakdown is. My guess would be something like a $10M signing bonus or something close to that.
I read 9 million this year, but with 0 detail on how it's allocated, 13 GTD. We will see.
2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:At $13M guaranteed, he's basically signing a two year deal with a decent shot of sticking around for a 3rd.
That puts him at 33-34. Fairly reasonable if you ask me. I thought we'd stick to around $5M a year for him, but not a huge jump.
Seems savvy to me. Basically gives us two years to find the next best thing, while also giving us the chance at retaining him through his twilight if his play holds up. Smart, better than backloading it.
2 minutes ago, redlobster said:This probably guarentees that if Ramsey made it pick 6, the Ravens won't take him.
I think we'd still take him if given the chance. He's the future, Weddle is the now.
2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:Well, honestly, I wouldn't even want to sign Weddle if Webb took a pay cut, but I don't see that happening and there's just no way Webb plays at a top 5 safety level like his contract says he should
True, but with all the restructures Webb has been given, he has the leverage unless someone else is signed. But, yeah there's no way he plays up to his current contract. Dude deserves a pay cut, but he's smart enough to know he doesn't have to take one.
10 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:He's 31, but still well respected in the league. Have to winder if he really is declining or if it's just injuries. Reed played for a good while
May not be so much decline as just staying healthy. Could add up though. I certainly wouldn't be upset if we signed him, just cautiously optimistic that he can play 12-16+ games over the next few years. There's a decent chance Webb is gone if this happens. I imagine Weddle has a better chance at playing a full season than Webb does.
4 hours ago, Cillmatic said:How old is Weddle? 32? Isn't that exactly when safeties start to slow down?
I'm not 100% sold on Weddle. He'd be a good addition, but I think he's also a liability due to recent injuries. At 32, he's right on the line between solid vet and potential baggage.
2 minutes ago, MiamiRaven55 said:My guess it'll come down to raiders or steelers.
That seems to be the speculation on twitter, not that it's worth much.
55 minutes ago, DR32 said:With the huge demand for QB, it makes the Ryan Mallett signing look genius. He would command big dollars if he was a free agent. Any chance we can trade him for something valuable (draft pick or otherwise).
Didn't think about this but you're right. Mallet would have gotten paid on the open market this year. He would probably have some trade potential if we had anyone behind him.
3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome said the team has considered moving Darren Waller to tight end.
Waller caught just two-of-six passes for 18 yards last year before a hamstring injury ended his season in late October. The Ravens seem to recognize Waller isn't going to make it as a wide receiver and he certainly has enough size to make the transition to tight end (6'6/238). Tight end has been a weak spot for Baltimore in recent years but the team addressed that Wednesday by signing Ben Watson to a two-year contract.
That's freaking interesting. Assume he'd be a better pass catcher than blocker, but I don't really know his skill set.
1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:This is what I've been thinking all along. Don't think the space is being created for a "big" FA signing. Could be used to sign maybe one guy and then do an extension with one of our own.
Brandon Williams is sort of the only one that makes sense to me. He costs the most and the market for his position is increasing heavily each year. I don't see us extending Wagner without a bounce back year.
True on Wagner. Williams is going to get a boat load of money if we don't lock him up before FA next season.
31 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:I could see that. We're seeing players getting way overpaid this year. It will only be worse next year.
If we can lock up Brandon now at the going rate, it'll probably save us $3M per year compared to what he'll cost in 2017.
I would be thrilled if they were able to do this. The money that was handed out yesterday is insane, as usual, and will only get worse next year.
2 minutes ago, B-more Ravor said:I share this thought and am a bit surprised by a 2nd restructure, since they've said for years that they will not do so, but perhaps this explains it a little:
Charley Casserly
@CharleyCasserly 1h1 hour ago Los Angeles, CA A GM told me one of the reasons we are seeing big money deals is because teams believe there will be a spike in Cap next year.@nflnetwork
Could that mean they're possibly clearing space to sign their own? Brandon Williams/Wager?
Just now, TheRavenouseD2008 said:Right now I think we end up going the rout of OL in the draft at number 6 ..... sad to say but the departure of KO leaves a gaping hole in our line. Watson is great and all but the issue comes up if joe does not have the time to throw then what was the point
Think so? I have a feeling that unless it's Tunsil, they will skip Stanley. Seems like they are comfortable enough with developing later round OL picks. At least, that's my hope.
4 minutes ago, usmccharles said:With the amount of money wrs are getting, is Aiken worth more to us or the market?
I think he's more valuable to us for the coming season. At $2+mil, he's a steal, and it it gives us another year to see what he really has. On the flip side, he's probably worth about $4 mil more than we're paying him in this crazy market... So...
Cap space is still pretty limited. I think maybe Wallace and Beachum are possible. However, there will need to be some additional cuts if we're signing anyone else in the near future.
1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:3. I don't think we are in a position where we should be slashing corner depth, given our starters aren't great and we don't have much depth to begin with. That's how you end up with the Melvin's of the world starting for you.
Agree on Arrington, but pretty interested to see what happens with Webb if a FS is signed. Seems obvious they'd ask him to take a pay cut.
49 minutes ago, usmccharles said:What do you think it will look like?
"Ravens converted $5.3mill of Yanda's $6.185mill base salary to signing bonus, cap figure now $4.01, down from 7.985" Per Aaron Wilson
Over the cap has it updated already. He basically goes from a 8+- mil/yr to 10ish mil/yr over the duration. Not sure how that compares to others in the NFL, but it's not the end of the world.
6 minutes ago, berad said:Maxx Williams will turn 22 in a month, he still has plenty of time to grow and learn. He probably won't even hit his prime until his second contract, if he gets that far. I've still got a lot of faith in him, especially considering players generally make a big jump from year 1 to 2.
Ozzie was quoted recently as saying that he expects Maxx to make the 2nd year leap. I can't see this signing impeding any progress. In fact, it may help him.
6 minutes ago, Daft Classic said:Anyone know the current Cap siuation?
And who else is looking to get the ax? I know Arrington and Lewis are only a matter of time, Monroe is pending the KO deal, and Pitta is more than likely a Post-June 1st so it makes sense to wait and see how his recovery is going before taking any action.
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/baltimore-ravens
Updated post-D. Smith cut.
6 minutes ago, ravensdan said:It's pretty likely Brady has a side deal with Kraft getting monies from elsewhere. Very Patriot like. The Saint Brady story and the money from his wife angle quite thick bs.
Ya know, I was gonna say it. I didn't though. He has a couple holding companies I believe, so it wouldn't surprise me at all.
44 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:I know Flacco did the Ravens nation a huge favor by agreeing to an extension that pays him a bonus check of $40MM and an annual salary of 22.1MM. This got me thinking. Coming off a terrible season in which he played sub-par football and also had a double ACL/MCL tear of his knee, what made the Ravens make him one of the highest paid QBs again? Were we really that desperate in terms of the cap situation or do we really believe that Flacco is or can be the best QB in the league? Why not let him play at his 28.55 cap this year and see how he's recovered and how he responds to a bad year? I'm actually happy that his deal got done, but I personally don't think this deal was a favor to the Ravens by any stretch of imagination.
That also makes me wonder how much Brady's extension with the Pats was for? First of all I loathe Brady and the Pats, but I just began to wonder if Brady actually signed for much less than he may get from the Pats to keep them competitive? Is it a myth or fact that his last two extensions were much less than other QBs not at his level of play and accomplishment? If true, then I am changing my opinion of Brady.
So, a couple things here. In the presser, OZ stated that the reason this deal got done was because both Joe and Steve wanted it to happen. It had less to do with cap space, and Oz reinforced that they were prepared to go either route. The cap savings is great, it helps both sides, but it wasn't the end-all be-all for the contract.
As for Brady. Well, his wife is worth 3-4x as much as he is. He can afford to take these extensions every year or two and he's still getting GTD monies with the lower cap hits. He has also had a couple sizable contracts, and will be playing into his 40s. He's a poor example. Guys like Cutler, Wilson, Rodgers, etc are better examples of the market value.
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That list gives a pretty good indication that we want DBs and pass rushers, not that anyone would guess much differently. Also not to say we wouldn't stray from those for BPA elsewhere, but it's a good look into the FO's needs assessment too.