EdTheMythicalOne

So the guy we drafted in the second round to be the replacement for Dennis Pitta we suddenly don't need anymore? Would I personally trade him straight up for a top pass rusher or a top DB? Sure, in a heartbeat. The problem is that the Ravens won't do it and no team in their right mind would make that deal. Trades don't happen simply because you want them to. Other teams actually have to want what you've got. No, nobody will give you value to trade for Ben Watson. He's old. He's coming off a severe knee injury, and has one year left on his contract that would cost us very little to just cut bait with and some other team could sign him on a less expensive contract if they wanted him...that's saying he's ready to even ready to play at the start of next season.

Alex Lewis will replace Wagner at RT. We've got plenty of in house candidates for RG and is is easier to find and cheaper usually to find interior linemen.

I see Yanda made some comments here and out of anyone on the team on offense, people should be listening to him. It may not be his job to do or say certain things, but it is also not Joe's or Dennis'. I also seem to recall years ago when the team was in an offensive muck and tried to go too cute and pass all the time and on a third consecutive quick three and out on failed passes Jonathan Ogden of all people jumped up and down on the field, clearly ticked off, took his helmet off before he got to the sideline and started yelling at the coaches. The team started running the ball again. I certainly hope to heck that this team gets a competent OC at the very least. The team prior to Kubiak being here was a strong power run team and it worked. Then Kubiak came in with a zone running scheme that worked for what we had then at running back (Forsett). The NFL changed the rules on the cut block and now you can't do it...and that's what the zone run really needs. Then we tried to turn into this West Coast team...I dunno what we were this season other than a mess. There was no real change between Trestman and Marty that I saw. Same stupid cutesy plays as if to show off how smart you are in making up a play rather than actually sticking with a play that actually works. How many formation and illegal procedure penalties do you need to keep getting on offense before you realize you can't pull off a four man shift very well? We don't have a zone run o-line. We don't have a west coast QB or WR's..because you know, they actually need to work free on short routes. We have a power run line for the most part with a play action deep shot QB. It is nice to say you have a system, but if your parts don't fit it, it isn't going to work. Being a good OC isn't just bringing in your system, it is making the parts you have work to the best of your ability and scheming a game plan based on that. I saw zero evidence of this this year. Wholesale changes to the offensive coaching staff at a minimum.

A lot of teams don't devote a roster spot for a pure full back anymore and I'd think he'd be a great fit for an offense that employs the H-back position like The old Joe Gibbs Redskins used to use. Of the teams that use a full back I doubt many of them would feature him as heavily in the passing attack as the Ravens do. Kyle also plays on special teams which is something that doesn't get mentioned a lot. I think he's a pretty special talent because he's got Dennis Pitta hands at the FB position. If he was only a bit faster he'd be that much more effective. If he were 6'4'' or 6'5'' he'd be on heck of a TE. I can't see him commanding a ton of money as a free agent but it only takes one team being silly enough to pay him. The Ravens also have 50 tight ends on the roster and could try slotting one of them in at FB. I'd like to have Juice back if the offense is still going to utilize a FB, but that kind of depends on the new OC...or if we get a new OC.

Waller dropped at least 4 passes that I can remember out of the limited times he was targeted. And Perriman actually being able to stay on the field and out fun slow DB's shouldn't be counted as "progression." The guy doesn't look like a 1st round superstar pick to me. Jury's still out due to his injuries but he's got to show a lot more to impress me and not dropping passes that hit you right in the hands would be a good start and getting open more often would be nice. You'd think with his size and speed he'd be that much more of a weapon.

He's not even a good #3 in a legit lineup of receivers and if he was this good why was he always low man on the totem pole no matter where he was before coming to the Ravens? He's not a playmaker. He doesn't have great speed. He doesn't run great routes. He doesn't have great hands. Because of his sheer size alone he might win some high pass battles, but the guy doesn't fight for the ball.

Ever think guys don't get targeted more because they tend to drop passes that hit them right in the hands?

There's the whole he's not coming back to coach at all thing because of his health.....

True, not sure why the article writer didn't mention him, I just assumed he was mentioned.

You never mentioned giving up a 1st round pick in your post. We're not trading Maxx Williams, nobody places that much value on Ben Watson, and a 5th round pick doesn't move the barometer.

Well, maybe SSSr needed to get open a bit more so he could get passes thrown to him?

Our 3-4DE's play more like DT's in our scheme so I don't see why you'd pay big time money to them in free agency. I agree that we need replacements for Dumervil and Suggs. Both are old and have had major injuries recently. I don't think we currently have the guys to replace them on the roster. So what we really need are pass rushing OLB's...and they don't come cheap. We've been bringing in a TON of FA CB's...that hasn't helped. Kyle Arrington, Will Davis, Shareece Wright, Jarraud Powers, etc., etc. I believe this coaching staff needs a wakeup call. The team looked completely lost, unprepared to play at times, and the clock management issues also keep coming to the forefront. At some point you need to correct these mistakes and stop making excuses.

If a ball hits you square in the hands and you drop it, that's on the receiver...all the time. Some might be even more critical than I am and say if you get a hand on the ball, you better catch it. I've seen far too many bobbles that turn into picks and just flat out drops from our receivers. That's usually due to a lack of concentration or they all inherited Ed Dickson's hands.

Steve Smith was good when he was here, but we've had other older receivers at the tail ends of their careers put up better numbers than Smith did and be bigger impacts. Bolden, Mason come to mind. He would have been a good complimentary piece of the puzzle but not as the main focus. How do you replace him? I dunno, but actually drafting premium talent or signing it in the free agent market? Really?

Have fun being a 4th or 5th WR on another team Kamar. You were a byproduct of being the only healthy WR on the team and you dropped way more passes than were attributed to you by a site that supposedly tracks these things. Your inability to get open and catch passes that hit you in the hands were on display once more. Goodbye.

Aiken was a product of being the only healthy body on the field. Obviously if you are the only guy playing you are going to get targeted. Heck, we turned Kelley Washington into a cult hero for a season too. Jacoby Jones had a really good season here. And look at what Aiken reverted back to this season. Did you see any real progression out of Perriman, Chris Moore, or Darren Waller? What was a big issue this year for our wideouts? Not getting separation....again. So to me, that's all on technique. You are seeing progress I am not. The two biggest contributors to the wideout position were free agents (Smith and Wallace) not guys we drafted. I think all of our Wideouts should spend a season getting coached by Dennis Pitta and learn how to work free in zone coverage. That guy is a master at his craft.

Matt Ryan has proven to be very good Regular Season QB. Good QB on a horrible team (a team that literally had no defense for most of his time so far in Atlanta) or a average QB on a good team? There's your debate. I think Flacco would have done some amazing things with the weapons on offense Ryan has had to work with. At the same time, Matt Ryan with the Ravens defense probably would have won some Superbowls.

I didnt want us to lose, especially being Smitty's last game but we deserved to lose that game. #5 knows that he isn't going anywhere no matter how bad he plays and its easy to see. I would love to see us trade up in the draft with our 3rd round comp pick but I can already see us trading down for more middle of the draft picks. Maybe we send like TEs Max and Watson and a 5th/6th rounder to Tennessee for their #5 pick. They have 2 first round picks and need Tight ends. You clearly do not understand the value of picks or I hope you are kidding? You want to trade our 2nd round pick from a couple seasons ago that has had injury problems, and then an OLD Ben Watson who spent all season in the IR with a blown out knee....and a 5th round pick for a 5th pick overall in the draft? You aren't getting a 1st round pick without giving up one first...so you start right there. Then to move up the spot the Ravens want to get to they'd probably need to tack on a 3rd round pick. The Titans would likely ask for a second round pick.

" Then in the draft get an elite pass rusher, shut down CB, a safety, an o-line G/C." Gee, is that all you want out of a draft? How about a true #1 WR and another future star franchise QB in the mix while we're at it? Flacco just renegotiated his contract recently to lower his cap hit. To expect him to do it again so soon is a little silly. Dumervil could be cut to save cap space. Brandon Williams is going to ask for crazy money. We aren't trading Maxx Williams and who in the heck wants an old Ben Watson coming off of a blown out knee? The Ravens are likely to cut him/injury settlement him.

The Ravens were pretty high on Skura and Broxton when they got them and Houston is a potential return man candidate. Wouldn't be surprised to see one or a couple of those names on the Ravens roster in 2017 depending on how the draft goes.

I was wondering about this idea about Tampa Bay as well because their fate seemed to be tied to the Detroit Lions and it does seem silly that a fate of an NFC team would rely on the AFC team games. It must all be buried in the NFL rules for tie breaking which appear here: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures Now since the Lions and the Bucs are not in the same division, the break down goes like this: 1) Head to head games: They never played each other. 2) Best W-L-T% inside conference: They were both 7-5 in conference 3) Best W-L-T% in common games (games against same opponent): Oddly enough, they were both 2-3 against common opponents. 4) Strength of victory 5) Strength of Schedule. I would assume it somehow comes down to these two factors because the rest of the tie breakers deal with points scored and such, which should have nothing to with whether other teams won or lost. Now, the Bucs went 2-2 in non conference play: They beat the Chiefs (12-4), and the Chargers (5-11), but lost to Broncos (9-7), and the Raiders (12-4). The Lions also went 2-2 in non conference play: They beat the Colts (8-8), and the Jags (3-13), but lost to the Titans (9-7), and the Texans (9-7). It all must have to do with number 5 and I don't feel like looking up combined records of opponents. The one glaring thing I see sticking out is the Bucs losing to the Rams, a team the Lions also played and beat.

Shouldn't be hard to set a record with Pitta when we essentially ran the Pitta or nothing offense for most of the season.

While the Ravens did draft Flacco 18th overall, it was a strange road to that pick. They actually had the 8th overall pick, but then traded down to the 26th pick overall, then traded back up to 18 because Bisciotti thought Flacco wouldn't last to the 26th pick. Bisciotti also wanted to trade up from 8 to number two or one to draft Matt Ryan instead.

Do you know Reynolds showed anything in all of those practices to warrant a roster spot? Do you know that he cured his fumbling issues or learned enough as a WR to contribute there or as a special teams player on coverage units? No, you don't. I am sure the coaches know more about this than any of us fans do and if he was lighting it up on the PS and was making a real name for himself I am sure he would have been on the roster and getting reps immediately on a team that was trying to make the playoffs.