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1 hour ago, Deflated Football said:

Tough schedule. Not sure we can fill all of our holes with the draft and cuts during training camp, on top of the inept play calling by Marty. Our defense can't carry us. This isn't 2001. Looks like another 8-8 season to me, in which case, Harbaugh can pack his bags and so can Ozzie. 

The Ravens could go 0-16 and Ozzie has a job next year.  People are assuming a hot seat where there isn't one.

1 hour ago, K-Dog said:

Okay Early prediction I am seeing 10-6 at best.
Sweeping Cleveland with a total combined margin of 3.
Splitting with Cincy, but I see Pitts-burgh sweeping us.  Having them after London even at home , and then in Pitts-burgh for SNF, I am not overly confidant.

I see us beating Jacksonville, Minnesota, Miami, Tennessee, Houston, Detroit and Indianapolis. With additional losses to Oakland, Chicago, and Green Bay. 

I am going to try to go to the Monday Night game.  I won't be able to swing London this year  I like where our bye is.  I don't really care who or where we open or close, I don't think it is that big of a deal. Thursday games annoy me. 

I think you are vastly underestimating how,poorly Pittsburgh matches up against the Ravens.  They barely won a game at home with the sole reason being a lack of secondary depth which has been addressed and early on in the,season when they are most likely to be healthy...no chance.

18 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

I'm just wondering if by week 5 Carr will be back in rhythm and be the gun slinger that he is or if we'll face him early enough that he hasn't got into that rhythm yet. At the least, the city of Oakland will be too mad at the team to probably show up so it might not be a true home field advantage.

I would think with the timing of his injury he will be full power around midway through the season so it is the best possible time to face him.

Ideally the Ravens are either 3-2 or 4-1 after 5 though with 4 VERY winnable games in a row to put them in a perfect position to make the,playoffs.

There are completely viable scenarios where the Ravens do not even draft an offensive player before their 4th pick so it's premature to assumecits going to be a WR.

12 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Draftsite.com has us taking:

Derek Barnett

Zay Jones

Carlos Watkins

Sidney Jones

 

with our first 4 picks. I'd be happy with that so long as we sign Mangold. 

If Sidney Jones is available at 99 then 32 NFL teams (yes I am including the Ravens in that) have all gone crazy.

1 hour ago, Sami84 said:

if you go back you'll see i actually loved the stanley pick same with CJ mosely.

and i said before both drafts that i didnt want elam or perriman.

You are still WAY too soon to judge Perriman but we will know after this year.

As for the question, if they get Barnett I am ecstatic and everything else I am pretty meh on not because they are not worth the pick but because there are so many players worth the pick that I won't really mind most of them 

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

if that does happen you can  say without question that our FO sucks at drafting.

No reason to pick robinson over forrest lamp. Would be sheer stupidty actually and yes, I will state I have a better eye for talent than ozzie and co if this does in truth happen. Much like with Elam and Perriman whom i detested, I've started to realize that ozzie and de costa have a very flawed eye for talent and i feel they just compile picks so they hope to get lucky..

It's easy to state that on draft night (like everyone bashing the Stanley pick on these forums did) but,a year or two from now will you own the result if you are wrong.

Indy is going to pick oline. I don't think the GM keeps his job thru the draft if they don't build an Oline to protect the QB they gave a mega deal to.

Ross's scouting report is basically a copy paste of Perriman's so why draft Ross when you have Perriman who WILL be starting next year barring injury.  The only thing the Ravens would do if they got yet another speed receiver is cut Wallace to save money.  

If Williams or Davis are there (and Barnett isn't) then by all means draft them but Ross is just a worse copy paste of what we already have.

I don't think you know what depth is.  Depth is what you have BEHIND the starters, as in the people who WON'T be on the field every play.  

Right now the two starters are Wallace and Perriman with the later finally getting the much needed off-season to grow what he needed, but yes BEHIND them there is not much. The people behind them are the depth.

I mean unless I'm misreading your board I sprint up there to grab Barnett at 16 and am happier for it.

5 minutes ago, BiggMack91 said:

dumb move we should have gotten a pick for him not a swap this is the same crap that happened with zuttah we are just giving guys away for next to nothing can wait for eric to start running the show so we can start making some smart moves

It's cute that you think that it would have played out any different.  Moving up that far for a player whose role was being reduced and who will be gone next year is a huge bonus to the Ravens.

I don't think it'll move a QB up as the team's considering him puck after the Ravens.

1 hour ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

So where did I hear it "BUDDY"?!

In your own head?

6 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Ya it's a tough call. I think Indy desperately needs a pass rusher now and Barnett would make sense so I hope if he does make it past NO that we in fact leap frog Indy with a deal with Philly unless they pull a Dallas like move where they are afraid the one team in between will take their valued RB. 

I am pretty sure if Indy does not go O-Line then Andrew Luck will fly to wherever the GM is and strangle him.

29 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

the comprehensuv plan involve startin mallet. timin is everythin. the plan involve the numba 1 selection in 2018, not this yr and multiple numba 1 pics the joe cap hit wil not be 47 mil but time is runnin out  not tellin the board tryin to let the board tell me jus ask urselfs when is the joe cap lower?

First off, Mallet is not a better QB.  Secondly, your plan is to go from a playoff level team to tanking the next 2 years when the Ravens already have a pretty young core of players?  You plan things badly and should stop making plans.

52 minutes ago, Crusader said:

The secondary might be good but isn't the center of the field weak now without Orr?

The Ravens are always good about finding some random player we have never heard of to be the 2nd ILB.  They have been doing it for over a decade now after all so I am sure there is some player who takes his place who will look like a pro bowler.

5 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

underdawg the postas here doan realy understan the cap and cap hit. they jus doan and say figurs that are off by milions. we culd stil trade joe this yr but we signd guys that make gettin betta off that trad harder.  joe is a good guy but he is a mediogre qb cept for those 4 weeks in 2012

I honestly dont think you understand how NFL trades work.  If they traded him it would be effectively be the same as cutting him for cap purposes and I believe that would give the Ravens cap hits of 46M this year and around 30M next year (someone can probably check those numbers I am less sure on them).   I mean you could do it but the result is going to put you over the cap so a lot of talented players are going to have to be cut to get under the cap number for the year. and also next year you might as well forget about trying to sign anyone.

5 hours ago, Underdogsontop! said:

My idea is flawed on multiple levels? His salary base is 6mil not inclueding his bonuses. So his total cap hit is $24.5mil for 2017. Look it up before you accuse people of flaws. I personally think the OT in this years draft is not strong at all. There's a lot more options that could be had if there was more $ available with the salary cap. We could make a trade, wait till cuts are made. There's obviously a lot more options if we had more money to play with rather then sit in this situation. Better qb's are getting paid less. Bottom line we need to get this running game up and running. We need to protect flacco.  $ is the problem right now if you take a look at the salary cap. No sense paying flacco big $ if he's on his back in the game or IR right? Now give me my neg. lol

You do not understand how bonuses work thats why when people say he is getting 6M this year that is what he is getting.  his cap hit is 24M but thats because of those first 3 years you delayed the cap hits until now when its time to pay them up, there is no reason to delay them any further when there is nothing left to get in FA.

5 hours ago, Underdogsontop! said:

All the splashes were defense... OK so we are set at O line with the loss of Wagner?  Our O line was weak as heck last season already. 

 The problem is the FA options are WORSE.  The free agent options at RT at the moment all suffer from not being very good at RT.  The Ravens have enough cap space to grab whoever they want they just are not good enough to be worth grabbing.

25 minutes ago, Underdogsontop! said:

According to sporttrac Flacco's cap hit this year is $24.5 mil. If we could get some of that back to help fix the O-line and our offense, we could do better the an 8-8 team.... 

Except the reason for that is that for the first 3 years of his post super bowl contract his cap hits were 6M 14M and 14M.  The numbers that were being put off are finally owe for now which is why his actual salary this year is only 6M.

Ignoring that,  every option in FA at RT suffers from not being very good so your idea is flawed in multiple levels 

36 minutes ago, sflegend89 said:

That hole left by Orr has to be addressed. The hole left by Wagner has to be addressed. The hole left by SSS has to be addressed. The hole left by Zuttah has to be addressed (Not buying Urschel). Whole lot of needs still, I'll be patient but we sure did spend a lot of money on luxury signings when we still had so many big holes to fill... I don't like the idea of putting so much pressure on this rookie class to deliver right out of the gate.. 

They are clearly buying Urschal or someone on the roster or they would not have made that hole themselves.  They did not need the cap savings so it was purely done with the idea that they had an upgrade on the roster.

2 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

Jared Allen, Charles Haley, Steve Largent, Darren Sproles,John Stallworth and Rich Gannon all were selected in the 4th round

Larry Centers, KGB, Rodney Harrison, Robert Mathis, Hardy Nickerson, Zach Thomas and Herschel Walker all were selected in the 5th round

Tom Brady, Terrell Davis, Jay Novacek and Adalius Thomas were all selectd in the 6th round

Marques Colston, Donold Driver, TJ Housmandzadeh, Michael McCrary and Shannon Sharpe all selected in the 7th round 

Players and playmakers are out there they just got to find them.

Okay, the overwhelming majority of players selected in rounds 4 and onward are not big time playmakers.  Yes there are exceptions but there is a reason the majority of 4th round picks are not picked in the first 3 rounds and yes i am sure there is a chance that 1 of the 150 players drafted after the 3rd round will turn into a playmaker but its going to be mostly luck that determines that because if you honestly think you have a high skill player they are not going to last that long.

1 hour ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

I would like to see the NFL pass interference rules changed to like how the colleges rules are implemented. 15 yards and a first down sounds good to me.

I mean basically in the NFL under this rule anytime you are about to give up a pass of 15 yards or more you are basically going to do all but tackle your guy to the ground.  The thing about college is the WR and QBs are worse so to a reasonable degree there will be mistakes but in the NFL its a disaster waiting to happen.

2 minutes ago, ByTheBay said:

It's bad enough some fans think we were one play away from the playoffs but now BR.com writers seem to have forgotten that we still had to play and beat the Bengals in CIN. Something we haven't done in once in the last 7 games including games at M&T. I guess that's why Mink doesn't write very often. Haha

Because everyone saw that game for what it was...a letdown game where had the Ravens needed it tge probably win especially since the Bengals had no motivation to do so.  In fact losing that meaningless game was good for the Ravens.

1 hour ago, hen826957 said:

I agree. Ozzie is good finding late gems of o-line in the middle rounds. I believe he found Marshal Yanda in the 3rd round and Wagner in the 5th, and many other decent ones. We could also find and o- line in free agency as well to help us out or during the cuts later on. We could just sign a o-lineman to a one year deal then find a better replacement next season.

O-linemen who are any good generally are not hitting free agency anymore.  Look how bad the remaining options at RT are for instance.  There has never been a greater emphasis on building a great OLine then there is right now in the NFL and since every team wants to do it those players are at a premium.