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1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I just don't see that guy though. We once thought we had our future starting center in house... once... 

I am not sure who they see either but the Ravens traditionally don't make moves like that until they are very confident the new player is better than the old.  

16 hours ago, Sami84 said:

It would not shock me if we yet again have a ravens draft where the first 2 round picks dissapoint and the middle round guys are the ones who end up being the players for us.

 

I watched more bowser tape and i'm not sure about him...he lacks instincts and seems too raw for a 2nd round pick. 

After watching more film of Lattimore, Sidney Jones and conely I really wish i could speak with harbs and ozzie and ask them to explain how humphrey was far and away a better corner than the last two

 

Also, not picking OJ howard or Rueben Foster is basically a mistake. The latter is AT LEAST bobby wagner and OJ howard is as polished of a TE i've seen in years in both the receiving and running game.

 

While humphrey is nowhere near the mistake elam was, he and bowser will not be pro bowl players. thats my guess. I think Humphrey will have good and bad moments and will be a solid corner .

I think the guys that ends up being our best player this year are Wormley, T.Williams and Siragusa.

 

You could also try to speak with the other GMs who all seemingly has Humphrey as either the best or 2nd best corner in the draft.

21 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'd give picks for him. It's worth the risk. But I wouldn't want a one year prove it deal, at least get him for 3 years so the dealt pick can be worthwhile. Hopefully he stays healthy. But it's basically selling out hoping we get one last shot at a super bowl. With the defense we have in place, we don't need to do any major rebuilding, just need a C, RT, and WR and we could absolutely contend every year. With our defense it feels like it would be worth it to sell out for another shot.

Why do people say the Ravens need a Center?  If the Ravens didn't think they already have an upgrade on the roster they would not have traded Zuttah.  It's not like they had no choice but to trade him.  The cap gains were negligible so the only reason is they think they already have someone better.

On 5/2/2017 at 0:36 PM, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Why? Its never worked.

Sure they had a nice stretch where they made the playoffs... but is that your goal? You want to be a team that makes the playoffs for a couple years and self implodes every time they do, followed by stretches of being terrible???

Setting the bar low.

Why do we look on in envy of franchises that have proven their decision making doesnt work, doesnt put them over the top, and at best is incredibly volatile in its results.... while knocking or wanting to move away from a formula that has produced 2 SB's in a 12 year span (1 of a very short list of clubs to do so) and produces teams that consistently compete for playoffs and win when they get there?

It's like you dont pay attention when the talented but troubled players they take chances on get suspensions, go off the reservation in huge moments, and get personal fouls in the biggest games that cost wins..... If it happens once its a fluke. But when it is consistently the reason they lose and can never win a playoff game, thats a trend. And one you dont want to emulate if you have any common sense.

A couple being 6 and contending for a super bowl in most of them is something 28 teams in the NFL would take.  Even in these "off" years they are only really a game or 2 worse.  The Ravens problem is always they struggle to get there but always make noise when they do.

7 hours ago, fusuymada said:

The Boldin pipe dream comes from the fact that very few people believe our WR's will surprise anyone, and that based on who is out there, he is the best remaining (unless you want to take a chance on an oft injured Victor Cruz). It isn't so much a love affair as a last resort. I am in the group that thinks that we have seen the best of Perriman, Wallace is streaky, Chris Moore has shown nothing, Campanaro can't stay on the field, and neither can the majority of our tight ends who constitute the walking injured as far as I am concerned. Every TE has missed an entire year or multiple games, every single one, either injured or suspended. Other than Wallace, I don't see a reliable every down receiver on this team. Just my opinion.

How can you possibly be of the opinion that we have seen the best of a player when we have never seen him after the coaches have had a chance to work with him?  That operates under the assumption that players are uncoachable and none of there weaknesses can possibly be improved and if that is what you believe then why bother having coaches in the first place.

21 minutes ago, whobilly said:

Hopefully one of the Undrafted FA WR's surprises us. Would not mind seeing Boldin come back if we can get him for what the Lions paid him last year. 2 Mill was small money for 67 catches and 8 TD's along with the hard nosed winning attitude.

He would not put anywhere near that up for Baltimore just because of how Detroit runs its offense but even 25 catches and 3 TDs would be worth signing.  Its going to be up to these young guys to take the top 3 spots though.

3 hours ago, mmcclend said:

He's a solid player but I'm not 100% that he's going to be our starter. I mean this kind of reminds me of the Kyle Arrington signing. Plus, why wouldn't the cowboys want to keep him? Their secondary was depleted and they wanted some continuity. Remember, his BEST attribute durability. 

They tried to find someone better over the years but they never could and the reason is very simple, he is a top 25 to 30 corner in the NFL.  That is a solid number 2 and when you don't treat him like more than that he excels, when you expect him to be Jimmy Smith, he fails horribly.

3 hours ago, allblackraven said:

When your team goes 5-11,fans expect a lot more from 2nd round draft pick. The worst is - he hasn't shown any progress throughout the year.

The fans can expect it all they want but when you should not be surprised when he is essentially red shirting that year.

35 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

u are failin to giv credit for being there.  they have a sharp young coach an have made some good draff piks. haven even looked at there draff but they have been buildin

They are doing a good job building (though there off-season signings were terrible).  That does not mean I viewed them as one of the top 8 teams in the AFC last year.  They got a soft schedule, snuck into the playoffs and got destroyed because they are not ready yet.

29 minutes ago, mmcclend said:

I find it amazing that everybody here has SOOO much confidence in Brandon Carr as our starter. Not saying he's bad but I live in Dallas and he's known as "Used Carr." He's a solid depth pickup but nobody should be surprised if Marlon starts and Carr is the backup.

He's also the player that Dallas tried to get rid for years but they could never find someone better.  They did not lose him by choice.  They had no cap space to sign him.

1 minute ago, Drew P said:

He didn't sniff the field last year it was onwuasor in relief of orr

Because the raw player who everyone said needed a year to develop shockingly needed a year to develop and everyone has acted like it was some massive shocker.

Did Hensley forget the Ravens have Webb as depth at safety as well?

13 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Take Correa out of plans

 

Holy crap our defense is going to be amazing. 

Correa is probably the starting ILB barring someone pulling an Orr so I wouldn't remove him from anything.

1 minute ago, reed20 said:

Unless our offense doesn't improve then I could see him thrown in there before then.

You are not going to pay 20M a year for a backup and he cant really be cut until that time so not really.  Plus anyone with eyes can tell you especially in the second half of the year Joe was not even in the top 5 of problems with the offense.

4 minutes ago, reed20 said:

Just take Kaaya and let him sit behind joe for a while.

He would be sitting until his rookie deal ended and then he would leave.

So the Ravens picked up some good pass rushers and the Bengals are running a patchwork offensive line...I cant wait for the season to start.

Just now, Drew P said:

Blocking and a run game didn't hurt neither...of which are the same if not worse than in 2016. Losing wags and yes even zuttahs weak butt leave serious holes

Here is the thing.  If the Ravens did not think they had someone BETTER than Zuttah on the roster, they would not have traded him.  They did trade him so someone on the roster they would have had be the starter instead of Zuttah.  That means the only big problem is RT which is a big problem but hopefully one that they can fix.

My advice

Chuck it deep on 1st down, punt on 2nd down, and just wait for the defense to get a turnover in FG range.

3 minutes ago, Yatagarasu said:

Off the issue and multiple drug test failures could be an issue. Look at how many NFL players fail the drug test. It's not a good sign when you already have a history against you.

Good thing we doubled up with two pass rushers as insurance policy.

Did he fail a league one?  I thought he just failed one at the school which I believe does not put you in the leagues program.

Just now, 757RavensFan said:

Still a void at ILB. 

The 2nd round pick last year is probably going to be the starting ILB.  If he doesnt win the job its because some random UDFA  made the roster and is going to play at a pro bowl level like what always happens with that other ILB spot.

Just now, ravensdfan said:

Doesn't much matter now. Can't surround your QB with "projects" from rounds 4 or later, 80% of which never pan out, and expect results.

Ozzies 4th round picks seem to be a lot closer to 50-50 then 20% and probably airing more on the side of panning out.  Just ask our starting LG last season who was looking really good before an injury.

Just now, robbie29 said:

The line did what it needed to do. Unfortunately the Bmore QB did not. Why are we giving Joe 120 million? He has nowhere near lived up to his end of the bargain since Feb 2013.

If you honestly believe the line played good enough to win then you were not actually looking at the games you were only seeing what you wanted to see.  

I think the Ravens have to pick offense for the rest of the draft if only because there is literally no room on the roster for more defensive players.

4 hours ago, ravensdfan said:

He's welcome. But even if Jimmy Smith 2.0 is true, we're talking 3 years before he has an impact . Just like Jimmy. You know, just in time to claim the big bucks while getting nothing but ST time for our #16 value.

We have a lot of solid players on our roster. What we lack are any impact players. That is what first round picks are supposed to be. Immediate impact players. This pick is not that. That doesn't mean he isn't welcome or no one sees his value. It just becomes about the value we did not get for a #16 pick.

1st round picks are supposed to be who you build around.  Jimmy Smith  might have taken 3 years but he is the guy the entire defense revolves around and for that he is a great 1st round pick.  If it takes 3 years for Humphrey to be the guy who the defense revolves around that will also be a good pick.

1 minute ago, jar2260 said:

Joe better work on his foot speed, he's going to be running for his life we lost our two top lineman and our line last year wasn't very good! No run game and Joe running for his life! Don't understand this thinking!!

Top 2?  We lost Yanda and Stanley?  Or do you mean the Center the Ravens thought so little of they traded him away?  It cant be that guy? Can it?