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Just now, JoeyFlex5 said:

It's the eye test. He passes it with flying colors. The kids a baller

I got into an argument with the high school coach of Patrick Peterson just to give you an idea of the mind I was having the discussion with. I told him that some of you are married to the measurements of players instead of what they can actually do on the field. I did not understand why Mathieu dropped as low as he did for the simple reason that when on the field HE CAN PLAY.

This is somewhat how I feel about Peppers. I hope he proves me right, using his measurements against him is stupid in my opinion.

1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

At 48 I think he's absolutely worth it...

There's something about him

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya takks measurables are outstanding. He has the frame and athleticism. That's why I always called him a top 20 pick

I saw somewhere that he drops to us and we take him in the 1st round. I looked at some of his highlights, he looks legit

38 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

So, DeCosta mentions Tim Williams and Charles Harris in his first combine interview. What does that really mean?

Means he is going in the opposite direction lol

42 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Titans finally learned that to build a good football team they need to trade away those higher picks and stockpile an extra pick or two. Good for them. The Browns and the Titans I believe are turning the corner. I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns traded back either pick as well. Titans next year very well could be a playoff team. The Browns are a little ways off but they seem to be building a team the right way now.

I wonder what they want for it

Tenn is looking to trade #5

lmao, what is going on here?

Titans are willing to trade their pick, anybody think we make a move to get the #5?

I might be alone on this, but I really dislike the combine

regardless of what moves we make in regards to the O-line, I expect them of all the units we have to be the most improved and the nastiest

1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

The 2nd highest cap hit in the NFL in Joe Flacco is the heart of our team. For 3 years now we have proven that the appropriate players in the appropriate scheme allows Flacco the time he needs to make the reads he needs to be successful. Early in his career he could move enough to extend some plays. Those days are long gone. Flacco with an offensive line that can give him a full, unimpeded, throwing motion for a full 3 seconds is like gold, man gold or Mangold. Zuttah was manhandled by the big nose tackles and frankly, these days, every team has a big nose tackle. He was effective, not good, in a zone scheme and play action which required more athleticism but with the straight up, pulling guard style run game and no play action, he was overpowered and a weak point. If we get Mangold, put Lewis out at right tackle, where he played before, and grab a scrappy guard in the draft, we could have a top rated running game and Flacco would have time to throw to receivers and not check down on every play. Ozzie needs to have another draft like he did last year and Correa and Kaufusi, who we could have traded and got Jalen Ramsey, had better produce this year.

Well no because we got Stanley, and we are all very happy about him

1 hour ago, reed20 said:

Nick Mangold would be a delight!

Yes please

Perriman unlike any of the receivers we have drafted has it on the field. You can see the ability when he's forced to make a tough catch in the air.....we need to develop this guy correct..

It's time Flacco starts to throw and develop these guys in the offseason. One year removed from the injury and you are hopefully healthy. Time to have a renaissance at the QB position. I have always been too lenient with Flacco because 1. Superbowl and 2. That's my guy, but it's time now you take responsibility and do what you have to do.

8 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

ok.......

So who in your opinion is elite? 

Brady, Brees, and Rogers

50 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

Is Matt Ryan elite?   

In my opinion? No

did I just get negative bc I said Flacco isn't Elite?

lol

2 hours ago, berad said:

He had space if he would've stepped forward rather than run to his right. He out-ran his blocker and it got him hit. The defender in the middle was being double-teamed and was neutralized, his blind-side rusher was on the ground.

As to anyone being open, that's on play-design/selection and the WRs I guess.

Can see it again from this angle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7JH-Newv6Y

Outside of turning the ball over, the last thing the Falcons could afford was a 12-yard sack. For great plays made (or disasterous plays avoided) under pressure in a Super Bowl, look no further than your boy Joe Flacco! At the 1:47, 4:39, and 9:04 marks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKNj4XHGDv0

I think that it IS enough time to react to the pressure, yes, we see this all the time in the NFL. It's almost instinctual with these guys, sometimes. Is it fair to ask or could I expect to do it? Absolutely not. You always hear it's a game of inches, though.

 

I would have been able to save so much time had I known it was ok to post links lol

2 hours ago, Tru11 said:

you dont see a guy coming from his blind side and 1 coming up the middle at pretty much the same right after he was done with his drop?
not sure where you wanted him climb the pocket to be honest, nor did i see anyone open , nor do i think its a wise idea to attempt a pass while going backwards with a defender all over you.
i mean you actually see a defender running to the sidelines so throwing it away seems very risky....

but before we continue i would like to know if you guys actually believe what you are saying.

cause i dont want to hear any troll accusations every time i bring this up when flacco is under pressure and its a negative play.
lord knows if we loose wagner and dont upgrade this o-line its bound to happen with marty pass happy ways.

if you guys actually think that a split second is enough to see pressure , evade and make a decision to throw it all within that time span then i can live that.
 

 

Don't think for a second I don't have a full clip for Flacco. I apologize if it seems in anyway that I only see Ryans mistakes as opposed to the self titled "elite" Joe Flacco

1 minute ago, Tru11 said:

do you have any data that supports that 2 seconds is enough to complete a 5 or 7 step dropback and throw the ball?

I tried desperately to access all that without have to pay to subscribe. That number I used was his average time getting the ball out. That play where he took the loss for 12 yards after watching the play was minimum 3 seconds with a defender he clearly saw from the beginning which made him continue to back peddle.

11 hours ago, Tru11 said:

is it really that hard to understand that 2 seconds is not enough time to complete a 5 or 7 step drop back, go through your read and pass the ball?

im 100% positive that the 2.73 seconds is based on all pass plays and not just 5 to 7 step drop backs, even so 2.73 was still more then the time he actually had on the 2 plays you blame him for....

also not sure what years ago have to do with what actually happened on those 2 plays.

 

Bc it was enough time to get rid of the ball when the pressure is in your face. He held on to the ball, that's it lol.

51 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

i know.

became clear when people actually want to argue that 2 seconds are a decent amount of time to complete a 5 or 7 step drop back.

 

 

8 hours ago, berad said:

Thank goodness we didn't lose the SB and have to offer flimsy excuses to justify a collapse of epic proportions.

We made the plays when we needed them, the Falcons did not. Goes across all phases and players. Yes, including the QB position.

This was the point I was making, whether the play calling was correct or not they put it in his hands and the rest was history. I do not understand what there is to talk about? #1 offense, MVP of the regular season, Pats dared the Falcons to beat them with Ryan.

And by the way, I do not have access to advanced stats unfortunately but one thing I did find interesting is that a couple of years ago with a worse offensive line Ryans average time in the pocket before being sacked/releasing the ball/ or running out the pocket was 2.73 seconds.

Just now, Tru11 said:

do you blame flacco every time he gets sacked?

 

 

if Flacco didn't have any time in the pocket then no, but when he has some decent amount of time I blame him. What is your point?

5 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

so he did move the chains.

did he do that or did the OC do that with the play calling?
 

Yes, the coach called a play to get sacked....twice

by the way if getting 2 first downs in an entire 4th quarter and part of the 3rd is moving the chains to you then cool, you are correct.

2 first downs........

Atlanta ran the clock out at the end of the 3rd after the NE score. that was the drive that the offense was in field goal range. It was 2 and 11 they pass incomplete from NE 42 in field goal range as long as they can put together some yards to make it easier for their kicker. 3-11 Ryan takes a SACK for a loss of 9 yards and they punt.

NE scores field goal

Next drive was a 3 and out with a sack/Fumble

NE scores

Next drive, this is the one with 2 HUGE plays, one was a run and the other was the toss to Gabriel. Once in field goal range, a failed run for a loss of 1, 2 and 11 SACK for -12 yards and brings them out of field goal range AGAIN, 3-23 pass incomplete...

So from the 6 min mark in the 3rd to the end of the 4th they managed 2 first downs (3 MAYBE, id have to look it over with time) and 2 of those came from 1 big run and a big pass. a total of 2 first downs is NOT moving the chains

17 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

so he did move the chains to get them in range ?

Once, and on that same drive got them out of it....