RavenROC

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  1. That's why you pay him now. He'll be worth much more NEXT season, assuming his current play continues. They have more leverage now because he already has to play another season to hit FA. He's not going to turn down some fair multi-year deal from us knowing that one injury this season cuts his worth heading into FA. Players want long term security.
  2. Pay him now. Didn't you learn your lesson with KO? Players want long term deals, and he hasn't shown any indication he's the type of player who needs to be incentivized. Lock him up.
  3. He DOES have a history - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/ucf-knights/os-ucf-breshad-perriman-nfl-draft-0430-20150429-story.html
  4. While Perriman's first injury happened in training camp, he suited up for the Bengals game and further injured himself during warm-ups. That was September. Not really the "12 months" that keeps being thrown about. Admittedly still slow, but if you didn't know that it's easy to see everything that's happened as them being misleading. His second injury wasn't a secret but I don't think it was well covered either.
  5. Figures...
  6. We're not talking about players who take plays off, are rotated out, or otherwise are out of the formation. We're talking about suiting up. Show me the stats on players who are paid similarly to Webb also missing 20% of their teams games and I'll believe it. This is entirely false. They played together in 2012 and 2013. In those seasons Webb played roughly 80-90% of defensive snaps in games he was in. Graham played in 50-60%. In 2013 when they both suited up for all 16 games Graham saw 687 defensive snaps while Webb saw 972. I don't even understand what point you're trying to make. Players' injury histories are an important thing when projecting future contributions to the team and values in contracts. The Ravens do. And it's unfortunate in cases like Webb and Pitta. They hand out far too much guaranteed money and roll the dice. Sometimes they win and sometimes they lose (Pitta). And we see the ramifications of it losing players like K.O.
  7. The guys running the contracts do. Yes, and as a starting DB for the Ravens he's missed about 20% of his expected playtime. There may be at rotational positions. Starting LCB or FS isn't one of those positions. And if someone does come in for Webb at LCB I'd expect he move to nickel (in previous seasons, which he did) The very same reason players plummet down draft boards who have serious injuries in college. I don't think there's a team out there that expect players to miss 20% of a season on average.
  8. No no no no no to Adam Jones...boo
  9. No. First you arbitrarily excluded 2012 to make a point about only missing 1 game on average other than that season. Sure, but while we're at it why don't we just exclude any season where he wasn't in all 16 and say hey, he has been 100% healthy other than those 5 years where he missed some games! What a warrior! Second, you're generalizing his seasons played, inflating the total years by using the years he was a backup. Facts are that he's started all 16 games only ONCE in his seven year career, and he wasn't a true starter until year 3, so in 5 years as a starter he's missed about 20%. Not looking as good now is it? Don't get me wrong, I love Webby, I wanted him here before he was even drafted, and I saw a starter in him from day one when he stood out as the only sure tackler in our secondary as a rookie. But he's also somewhere in the conversation of injury prone and pretending he's not is either stubbornness to the point of going down with the ship or just being a blind homer.
  10. Lol, yes. You literally said: " You can play the "well he's guaranteed to miss 4 games" card, but that's not historically accurate, so you're basically just guessing how many games he will miss based on pulling a random number out of the sky. That's fine if that's your approach, but that's not my style. " That was in reference to a different person. My post stated several facts about Webbs history, then predicted a future outcome. I didn't say one thing about the past that wasn't true.
  11. I think you think I was the person you originally replied to.
  12. Bottom line, you're playing revisionist history. He's missed more than a full season's worth of games in 7 years. He's had 2 season ending knee injuries, which is significant for Webb being overpaid at safety. Feel like he's cut or forced to restructure in the next couple years. Their hands are tied this season with his cap hit, but that will change and they have a bit of depth there right now.
  13. Playing a bit of devil's advocate here but how are you going to post 2 plays where you point out the need for flags for the Ravens then applaud Brandon Williams for the 3rd play where he clearly commits illegal hands to the face on the first block he sheds? Too much koolaid in the press room...
  14. Why is br.com posting garbage like this story? No one cares what that idiot thinks, did the Patriots site admins hack br.com and post this?
  15. eagerly awaiting the season!