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If the Ravens beat the Dolphins, Eagles, and Bengals while losing to the Steelers and Patriots, they will have a 9-7 record, 5-1 in the AFC North.

If the Steelers beat the Ravens, Browns, and Bengals, while losing to the Giants and Bills, they would have a 9-7 record, 5-1 in the AFC North.

Both teams would have a tie in the common games (8-6) and conference games (7-5) (someone please check my work), so wouldn't it come down to strength of victory?

Just now, VermontRaven said:

Yeah, the ESPN Playoff Machine is wrong.  They wrongly have the Steelers winning the tiebreak with us if we beat Cincy (and Pitt beats us)

By official list of tiebreakers, we win "Common Games' tiebreak if we and Steelers finish with same division record.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

I believe this site has it correct:  http://nflplayoffpredictor.com/?L=EwRjpZSnLtJQeOTm3o8altVzTCBXFfSAZkVAuOXVN2hjvOvohdbAAY-+BgocJGix4iUKA

That's the site I use, so that works out good. I saw some other people on reddit saying the ESPN machine had things wrong for other teams. Thanks!

Can someone help me out here. The ESPN playoff machine, and the website I use are contradicting each other.

If the Ravens beat the Dolphins, Eagles, and Bengals, and lose to the Patriots and Steelers...

and the Steelers beat the Bengals, Ravens, and Browns, and lose to the Giants and Bills...

do we win the division? 

The ESPN playoff machine says we lose the common games tiebreaker but the website I use says we win it.

We Win 2 of our next 3.

Steelers drop 3 in a row.

We clinch the division Week 15.

Unlikely, but would be awesome to see.

31 minutes ago, January J said:

Yeah although its unlikely a wildcard berth isn't completely out of the picture.we need to root for Denver to beat KC twice-( or the other way around I suppose) and hope they don't split which would help them both.

Agreed. The Broncos schedule is.. vs Chiefs, at Jaguars, at Titans, vs Patriots, At Chiefs, vs Raiders. I think they'll go 10-6 or 11-5, but each of those games could be tough. Who knows. I think the Chiefs have a better chance to fall to 9-7 though.

I would love for him to return next year. He could defy father time for another season, and Steve knows that, but as of right now I think he's done after this season. I think it all comes down to his family. They're his top priority. If they tell him to give it another go, then I think he comes back. Regardless, I'm so thankful that I've gotten to experience 3 years of one of the most inspirational, tough, and hard-working receivers in NFL history as a Baltimore Raven. I couldn't ask for more. I just hope he can recreate his first TD as a Raven against the Bengals by grabbing and slamming Adam Jones to the ground on his way to a TD. 

14 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

That is a awful stat for a 120m QB.  What is he Cody Kessler for the browns? 

Don't get me wrong, Flacco very well could throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs. I just think that he won't have to do that tomorrow. We establish the run with Dixon and West, and have a few long drives that take up clock and result in points. We win the Time of Possesion battle tomorrow, with no pressure on Flacco to throw a lot. He'll secure the ball and manage the game.

I'm feeling a 20-13 win here for us. I don't think either team will pull away with the game, but the Ravens defense will be too much for the Bengals. 

J. Flacco 18/28 214 yards, 1 TD / 0 int. 

T. West 11 carries, 49 yards, TD

E. Weddle 1 int.

Also, after looking at it, we also have a chance to win the Wild Card at 9-7 too if the Steelers were to go 10-6 somehow. I think the Chiefs are in danger of slipping to 9-7, while the 2 and 5 seed go to the Raiders/Broncos. We would get the tiebreaker over them, along with other teams. 

The Chiefs (7-3) schedule is... at Broncos, at Falcons, vs Raiders, vs Titans, vs Broncos, at Chargers. They could very well go 2-4 within those games.

The Dolphins (6-4) schedule is... vs 49ers, at Ravens, vs Cardinals, at Jets, at Bills, vs Patriots. I think it's very possible they go 9-7, maybe even 10-6, which worries me a little. We need to beat them for sure. 

The Bills, Chargers, Colts, and Titans could make a run at the Wild Card too, but I think they fall just short.

I'm just saying that while our most likely path to the playoffs is winning the AFC North, we may somehow be able to squeak in a wild card berth at 9-7.

Scenario #1: 

If the Steelers beat either the Giants or Bills, they will be 7-6.

If the Ravens beat the Bengals and Dolphins and lose to the Pats, they will be 7-6. 

The Ravens would have to beat the Steelers and either the Eagles or Bengals in order to win the division.

Scenario #2:

If the Steelers beat either the Giants or Bills, they will be 7-6.

If the Ravens beat the Bengals and Dolphins and lose to the Pats, they will be 7-6. 

The Ravens have to beat the Eagles and Bengals, and they can lose to the Steelers as long as the Steelers lose to either the Bengals or Browns.

Scenario #3:

If the Steelers lose to the the Giants and Bills, they will be 6-7. 

If the Ravens beat the Bengals and Dolphins and lose to the Pats, they'll be 7-6. 

The Ravens win the division by beating the Steelers, by winning 2/3 of their remaining games, or by the Steelers losing to the Bengals and Browns.

In this scenario, the Ravens could clinch the division in week 15 with a win over the Eagles, and the Steelers losing to the Bengals.

Scenario #4: 

If the Steelers beat both the Giants and Bills, they will be 8-5.

If the Ravens beat the Bengals and Dolphins and lose to the Pats, they will be 7-6.

Winning one more game than the Steelers will win the division for the Ravens. The Ravens would most likely have to go 10-6 here. I believe that this is the most unlikely scenario.

It's technically possible for us to win the division at 5-9-2. That's using a NFL predictor website anyways. Just funny that there's a way for us to win the division without winning another game. Crazy, right? 

Bengals lose Bernard and Green for the year. Ouch.

Here's some scenarios assuming the Bengals aren't in the race.

#1: Ravens: W,W,L,W,L,W (9-7) Steelers: W,W,L,L,W,W (9-7) Ravens win the division

#2: Ravens: W,W,L,W,L,L (8-8) Steelers: L,W,L,L,W,W (8-8) Ravens win the division

#3: Ravens: W,W,L,W,L,L (8-8) Steelers: L,L,L,W,W,W (8-8) Steelers win the division

#4: Ravens: W,W,L,L,W,L (8-8) Steelers: L,W,L,W,L,W (8-8) Ravens win the division

#5: Ravens: W,W,L,L,W,W (9-7) Steelers: L,W,W,W,L,W (9-7) Ravens win the division

#6: Ravens: W,W,L,W,L,W (9-7) Steelers: L,W,L,W,W,W (9-7) Ravens win the division

#7: Ravens: W,W,L,W,L,W (9-7) Steelers: W,L,L,W,W,W (9-7) Steelers win the division

#8: Ravens: W,W,L,W,L,W (9-7) Steelers: L,L,W,W,W,W (9-7) Steelers win the division

#9: Ravens: W,W,L,L,L,W (8-8) Steelers: L,L,L,WW,W (8-8) Ravens win the division

#10: Ravens: W,W,L,W,W,L (9-7) Steelers: L,W,W,W,L,W (9-7) Ravens win the division

#11: Ravens: W,W,L,W,L,W (9-7) Steelers: L,W,W,L,W,W (9-7) Ravens win the division

#12: Ravens: W,W,L,W,L,W (9-7) Steelers: W,L,W,L,W,W (9-7) Ravens win the division

Which one of these is most likely? No idea. These aren't all of the possibilities either. 

With AJ Green possibly out for the year, things get interesting. I think 9-7 should win the division.

Ravens still have: Vs Bengals (W), Vs Dolphins (W), @Patriots (L), Vs Eagles (W), @Steelers (L), @Bengals (W). (9-7)

Steelers still have: @Colts, Vs Giants, @Bills, @Bengals, Vs Ravens, Vs Browns. 

The Steelers have to lose at least 2 of those games. Chances are, a 9-7 tie would go to the Ravens.

Now I think even 8-8 could happen for us too. Most scenarios I see us getting the tiebreakers over the Steelers, even if they beat us on Christmas. I just want to make the playoffs. 

I'm confused because Jimmy seemed fine, saying that he's okay, but then he doesn't practice at all (maybe limited Friday) and is considered Doubtful. For some reason, I feel like he plays, idk why, despite it being unlikely.

May have already been mentioned, but does anyone remember hearing that at halftime of week 17, 2014, Joe really hyped up the team and used the "f" word while giving a pep talk? It was when we had to beat the Browns in order to make the playoffs (along with a chargers loss). We came out, and won 20-10. I think it was Torrey Smith who said it was the most determined and serious he's ever seen Joe.

Can't wait for this. Going to be watching this in my Steve Jersey! He's only been here 3 years and he's one of my favorite Ravens ever. Plus, he's one of my biggest inspirations. 

23 minutes ago, FlocksGottaFeed said:

The Browns have never gone a season were they didn't win at least 2 games. There are 2 other teams who have only won 2 and 3 games currently. If the Browns win 2/3 games before they get to their last game...do you think the Browns will try to win that game?

The point is: We just really need to focus on winning the most games (period). The best opportunity is to simply win-out or come closer to it than everybody else in our division.

Agreed. But I highly doubt the Browns will go into that game with more than 2 wins, and even that's a stretch. I see 3-13 at best for them, realistically 1-15/2-14.

1 hour ago, FlocksGottaFeed said:

Question: If you're the Browns and playing your very last game vs Steelers and you're trying to get that 1st, 1st round pick.....do you try to win that game?

Considering they're probably getting the 1st pick regardless, why not?

1 minute ago, redrum52 said:

Was looking at the schedule and thinking the same thing @Filmstudy and @rmcjacket23... if we could pull off winning the next 3 games would out this team in prime position to win the division while putting the pressure and the remaining competition.  Tough games but winnable, if relatively healthy.

 

Would also be first 5 game win streak under Harbaugh.

Very true... I think it's possible. If we take down the Cowboys, Bengals, and Dolphins, and we're sitting pretty at (8-4). We'd be at least a game up on the Steelers, and 2.5 ahead of the Bengals. Man, week 16 could be huge.

4 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

1st tibreaker is Head-to-Head.  2nd tiebreaker is Division record.  3rd tiebreaker is record in Common Games (this year...gaves vs. NFC East and AFC East)  Colts are not a part of that, so it is better for us if Steelers losses are to someone else. (just like for us..it helps us that one of our losses is to the Raiders, which is not a common game)

Currently, Ravens are 1-3 vs. AFC East and NFC East (W vs. Bills, Ls to Jets, Giants, and Redskins)  Steelers are 2-4 (Ws vs. Redskins and Jets, Ls vs. Eagles, Dolphins, Patriots, and Cowboys...Steelers also have loss to Chiefs, which is NOT a common game)  Ravens have remaining "common" games @ Dallas, vs Dolphins, @ Patriots, and vs. Eagles.  Steelers have remaining "common games" vs. Giants and @ Bills.

Okay, that makes sense. Thank you!

I gotta say '08 and '11, but man, '07 would maybe be there just for the fact that we would've beaten the undefeated Pats... too bad we called a timeout on 4th down. 

We play: Cowboys, Bengals, Dolphins, Patriots, Eagles, Steelers, Bengals.

If we beat the Cowboys: Ravens must go 3-3 to end the season. (L to Pats, Steelers, Bengals once, win division at 9-7)

If we lose to the Cowboys: Ravens must go 4-2 to end the season. (L to Pats and either the Steelers or the Bengals 1 time, win division at 9-7)

This week is huge. We should be fine if we split with the Bengals, lose to the Steelers, and lose 1 other game, even if that game is this Sunday. (4-2 Division Record)

I am a little confused on why the Steelers would want to lose to the Colts? Can someone explain that to me?

Ravens (5-4)

Steelers (4-5)

Bengals (3-5-1)

A win next week would be huge. Let's get it!

9-7 gets this division for us...

Ravens (5-4) to (9-7)

win: Dolphins, Bengals x2, Eagles

lose: Patriots, Cowboys, Steelers

Steelers (4-5) to (9-7)

win: Browns x2, Colts, Giants, Ravens

lose: Bengals, Bills,

Bengals (3-4-1) to (7-8-1)

win: Steelers, Browns, Texans, Bills

lose: Ravens x2, Giants, Eagles