billiejean

On this forum spence is highly overrated. Ever since they did that article on himm everyone on this site (even the ones who didn't know who spence was before the article) has jumped on that bandwagon. People take articles on this site as absolute truths, you need to do your own research, watch some game tape (not just the highlights) and form your opinions. He comes up short in a lot of areas even playing lower level talent. At this point he's not worth the sixth overall pick.

shaq will definitely be there at six unless he has an amazing combine. He is more of 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB. Doesn't have good hip flexibility and certainly not worthy of the sixth over all pick.

haha I wouldn't have pegged you as a Madden guy Bio. But I think thats because I associate you with your profile picture and intuitively have believed that you look similar to that old grumpy man.

wow i wish i had a crystal ball. Buckner would not fill a position of need. He plays a position where we have L Guy, B Urban and maybe Canty. Its not a major pass rushing situation. He has the size to be a premier DE in a 3-4 and in the 4-3 but he has not had a lot of production in college. I would pass on that guy.

I'm sure you have done a lot of research on his injury. LOL Your lack of knowledge about the inner workings of a football team has failed you my friend. Why would we cut him when he isn't taking up a significant cap space. Or maybe you are a doctor, being that you know so much about his injury. LOL

where is your data that states safe moves in the draft do not lead to superbowls. Or did you just pull that out of nowhere.

i think there is a misconception about Urshel at guard. He gets in a lot of articles on this forum so everyone thinks he's an all star (same thing is happening with spence). In reality Urshel is an average to below average guard who is brilliant, but lacks some of the physical tools to be a star in this league. In fact Jenssen is a much better guard than Urschel. He just doesn't get any publicity.

you say the same thing everyday, and everyday it is clear that it would be impossible for us to do the things you think we should do. Trading from the sixth pick in the second round down to the 20th pick in the first round will not happen. We would have to give up most, to all of our picks (except the compensatory ones). Its time for you my friend to start looking at the reality of the situation. Its also interesting that everyone thinks spence is going to be a superstar. Im sure no one had any idea who he was before they did a piece on him. But since that piece he is the talk of the town. I would wait for the combine to crown him as a top pass rusher. Reality is one hell of a drug.

I beg to differ I think the trio of Rice... McGahee... and Ricky Williams was a better trio... Just my opinion of course.. again we picked up Ricky Williams in 2011 because we let Mcgahee walk (he ended up in denver). Williams and Mcgahee never played together. I think we were deepest in 08-09 when we had McGahee, McClain, and Rice! That was a scary backfield McClain and McGahee against Dallas in 08 was a thing of beauty. joe flacco looked pretty sharp in that game too

yea iim hoping the Cowboys grow fond of one of these QBs

I think Shareece Wright proved more than serviceable at the end of last season. In fact, one could argue he was the best CB on our team. With Jimmy coming back healthy, Shareece Wright with a year in our system, having traded for Will Davis (who will also be healthy) and Tray Walker on board I really don't think we need to panic quite yet. Could we use a great young CB in the draft like a Ramsey, VH3, Alexander, etc.? Sure we could because there will never be enough good CBs on any team. Having said that however, conceding that Ozzie always picks BPA ( that has been Gospel here for years btw) and we are cool with it. My sense is if there is an exceptional pass rusher available at 6, this year we make an exception and go for that player! That is how critical that position is for the Ravens. Everything we do flows off of the pass rush and last year proved it! My instincts tell me we go pass rush at 6, unless of course the top rushers are gone and Ramsey is available. I highly doubt that ozzy would take a pass rusher that is rated number 6 on his board if there is a safety CB or OT rated higher than said pass rusher. It would be a huge mistake. Especially if Ramsey is on the board. It just wouldn't go down like that. There will be pass rushers available in other rounds but the way it is shaping up, it doesn't look like there will be a pass rusher available that would be worthy of the pick. Unless you like deforest buckner, The guy has all the physical traits to be a good player but his production in the ducks defense has been minimal. He would play DE (where we already have lawrence guy, brent urban and possibly canty) in our system which isn't a primary pass rush position (OLBs bring the most significant pressure) And you would be fooling yourself to think that this guy could play OLB. I do agree we need another pass rusher but to call the situation critical is a bit over blown. We do have Suggs Zsmith and Dumervillhe. I don't have faith in any of those corners that you mentioned. Shareece was serviceable at best, hopefully davis can recover from his injury and Tray Walker worries me. He didn't get any playing time this year and had recently claimed waiver wire pick ups play in front of him. As I said the only true starting caliber CB that we have is Jimmy. All of the other guys are question marks. But the bottom line is this OZ DOES NOT AND WILL NOT GO INTO THE DRAFT INTENT ON PICKING A PASS RUSHER IN THR FIRST ROUND. That just not how it works. There are just so many unforeseeable scenarios that could happen on draft day. We will take the highest rated pass rusher, CB, safety or OT. Im not saying we won't take a pass rusher at 6. But the only way that we would do that, is if there are no CBs, Safetys, or OTs rated higher than said pass rusher. Oz isn't going to reach for any player including pass rushers. I also think there will be some pretty good pass rushers available in rounds 2 and 3.

yea man I liked that to . McClain really stepped up that year and converted from FB to the number one RB. Rice was given minimal reps because he was a rook but he was a good change of pace back.

we only have so many picks. and quite frankly we do not enough picks to do both of the things you mentions. Everybody is on the Noah Spence train now because of the article written about him on this site. Before the article absolutely no one was talking about him. But when people read the article they have knee jerk reactions and tend to convince themselves that he will be a superstar (without doing any research themselves about the player). Im not. sure he is going to be able to live up to his expectations at the combine. And this is an ongoing thing, As soon as an article on this site highlights any of the draftable college players, everyone is instantly enamored with them. After that article some people have even suggested that we take him in the first at number 6 which is laughable. And to be clear fusuymada I am not accusing you of doing anything like this. Im sure you have researched the guy. But the knee jerk reaction is an ongoing problem on this site like..... the trading or cutting monroe - firing dean pees - letting Flacco walk because he is to expensive and Mallet is good qb - and the ozzy is a terrible GM because he let dickson, oher , stewart, daniels leave. There are plenty more i just can't think of any

AS of now we would have to trade way way back in order to justify taking spence. However his stock could rise after the combine.

I would also argue that CB as priority number one. The only starter we have as of now is Jimmy Smith. So it would behoove us to take one that will be able to contribute right away. And those types of CBs are not going to be there in later rounds. Impact pass rushers are easier to find in later rounds than impact corners. But just because CB is our priority doesn't mean we have to take one in the first. Our first round pick is not set in stone. The players that are taken 1-5 will dictate who we take.

you really can't go into a draft intent on taking a certain position in a certain round. You really have to let the chips fall where they may and take the BPA. There isn't a GM in the league who assigns a position to each round. You get pigeon holed into taking someone that is not the BPA if you are forced to pick a certain position. Lets say its our turn to draft and there is an OLB who is number 6 on our board. And lets assume a safety is also still on the board and he is number 4 on the board. It would be insane to take the OLB just because you have forced yourself in that position. I know its popular in the forum to assign a position for each one of our draft picks, but that is pretty ridiculous. As I said no GMs do that because it is too restrictive. And in many cases you would have to take a guy who is not the BPA. Luckily we have a lot of needs, In the first we could take a LT, OLB, Safety, or cornerback which are all positions of need.

I beg to differ I think the trio of Rice... McGahee... and Ricky Williams was a better trio... Just my opinion of course.. again we picked up Ricky Williams in 2011 because we let Mcgahee walk (he ended up in denver). Williams and Mcgahee never played together.

Ray Rice, Willis McGahee, Ricky Williams was pretty good too... that year (2011) we picked up ricky williams because we let mcgahee walk (he signed with denver). Williams and Mcgahee never played together.

Just about everyone else who loses, seems to be able to handle it like a man. And by the way, I didn't hear much TRASH TALK from the Broncos. Hopefully Newton will grow up someday. I seem to remember Bill Belichick refusing to do interviews after their loss to us in the 2012 AFC championship. And of course you couldn't here it, they weren't mic d up. http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl-news/4694212-cam-newton-interview-walked-out-chris-harris-broncos-panthers-super-bowl

believe it or not Harris was a UFA. sure does play like a first rounder though.

you can't intentionally kick the ball. its a fifteen yard penalty

There is no way that we would choose Henry at six. And move up if need be? You must be joking. There is zero chance that he gets drafted with in the first six picks. It is even possible that he would be around for us in the second round. Running backs in the NFL are a dime a dozen and to take Henry early in the first is a crazy idea. In my opinion (which is supported by many others who follow the draft) Henry isn't even the top running back in this class.

I wouldn't consider Zsmith a DE maybe if this was a 4-3 but he is way undersized for that position and didn't play there at all last season. I would hold of in calling Elam, Walker, and Brown contributors. KLM will be on the bubble.

lol, leslie frazier is not a miracle worker. arrington simply doesn't have the talent to contribute to this team.

I think there would be plenty of options :) You can always find a way to use great players. If we get Bosa the pass rush should be fun to watch unless you are as clueless as dean pees The Greek.... I am with you there.... I shudder to think of all the high defensive draft picks that Pees has made look bad. 1st rounder Elam, 2nd rounder Arthur Brown, 2nd Rounder Upshaw (while he hasn't really been bad he has not lived up to expectations either) 3rd rounder Terrence Brooks, 4th rounders John Simon, Christian Thompson and 5th rounders Asa Jackson and Tray Walker.... Bottom line is If you are a DB under Pees you are not going to cut it... and that he has not gotten much out of many high picks from 2012 to 2015.... ( he has had some decent ones to but ...still seem to be not getting the most out of some of these investments) Could he really make Joey Bosa look like a bad pick??? or Jalen Ramsey??? yea its all Dean Pees' fault. if it weren't for him all of those players you have mentioned would surely be perennial pro bowlers.