billiejean

the last things this defense needs is another slow and old linebacker

Go watch how they play on youtube. See who wins the battle at the line of scrimmage and see how they do it. You will understand why I favor Bosa over Buckner. This is the thing that we agree about my friend. I have watched the tape and as I stated before.... "I will say this again because a lot of what you are saying I agree with. I would pick Bosa over Buckner at this point if I had to choose."

Again we go over this every single time we are talking about Flacco's contract. He is not due 28 million. He is only getting paid 18 million this year.

The likelihood of us cutting joe this year is exactly the same as it would be next year. it not going to happen no matter how much the team would save. Linta would never take that threat seriously. If for some outlandish reason we did cut Joe, he would be scooped up right away and Linta would be able to take the highest bidder.

Laughable comparison to Upshaw. Buckner can't hold Bosa's jock. It is funny to see how many people already bought the hype. And you are on the Bosa hype train, which has been traveling much longer and faster than Buckners. That said Upshaw probably isn't a great comparison. Chris Long is probably a player that Bosa most resembles.

I will say this again because a lot of what you are saying I agree with. I would pick Bosa over Buckner at this point if I had to choose. Im not sure if mentioning his size really supports your arguments because Buckner is 6'7 290 and is as fast if not faster than Bosa. But what I really disagree with is this line.... "And i am telling you that I don't see the explosiveness from Buckner" Just because you can't see it doesn't mean its not there. It is readily apparent when watching tape of Buckner and Bosa. And I am not saying that Buckner is the most explosive guy in the world. He is just more explosive than Bosa. And again if you don't take my word for it check out these scouting reports. nfl.com - "Quick off the snap and difficult to cut­ off in run game. Long arms and good play speed allow him maximum field coverage to tackle" walterfootball.com - "Flashes a quick first step" nflmocks.com - "Buckner is surprisingly quick off the ball for his size. His first step quickness is quite alarming for a man that big, you’ll see him on almost every other play pounce off the ball quicker than his fellow defensive linemen. todayspigskin.com - "A combination of quickness, strength, and length makes him a force along the defensive line. Quick out of his stance and attacks the offensive lineman placing both hands squarely inside his chest:" fueledbysports.com - "Quick first step" bigbluereview.com - "He plays with explosive movements and terrific body control for his size" nfldraftreport - "but he has that quick burst off the snap and very strong hands needed to pull and jerk down offensive lineman" breakingfootball.com - " Quick first step" mockdraftshq.com -"Great first step for his size, better burst than Bosa"

You have no idea what you are talking about. For years Haloti ate up double and triple teams to let Ray and the rest of the backers run free. He will most definitely be in the ring of "honer". I'm not sure where you came up with this notion that he is selfish but it is certainly unfounded.

Long would be a terrible fit for our defense, there is no way you are converting him to an OLB.

Are we watching the players? They both played Michigan State this year. Watch their game film on youtube. Bosa was causing nightmares for the QB, and Michigan State never ran at him. Buckner was a non factor in the MSU game, and was getting pushed around. MSU is a great gauge of talent because they have an NFL caliber O-Line. Bosa doesn't not cheat technique, or his responsibility, and he is incredible powerful. His motor does not stop, and he beats Tackles and Guards on a regular basis off the edge and against the run. Bosa is much quicker and has more moves in his arsenal than Buckner. Buckner honestly does not get off of blocks and win at the line of scrimmage enough for me. I don't think Buckner has developed the ability to play with good leverage, and I do not think he is worthy a top 10 pick. Buckner played against subpar talent in a pass happy conference. Bosa played against some of the best linemen in the country and might have had the sack record if he played in the Pac 12. Bosa is Suggs 2.0 Yea Buckner doesn't get as much pressure because he is playing at 3-4 DE while Bosa plays 4-3 DE. When I say explosive I mean quick twitch muscles (suddenness). And yes Buckner is much more explosive than Bosa and if you don't take my word for it, I googled Joe Bosa scouting report, and these were the first seven scouting reports on Bosa. CBS sports - "Not a quick-twitch rusher and doesn't play with consistent explosion" musiccitymiracles.com - "Inconsistent explosion off of the line of scrimmage. Lacks some quickness, quick-twitch ability." NFL.com - "Not as twitchy and sudden as expected. Feet are a little heavy and it takes just a second to accelerate up to speed" Bleacherreport - "but on base sets as an edge defender, he's going to win with strength, breaking down the will of the right tackle or tight end slowly, not explosive speed" todayspigskin - Bosa lacks the explosive first step that most of the dominant pass rushers seem to have" nflmocks.com - "My immediate issue with Bosa is that he’s slow off the line. He knows it too because he over compensates it and gets called off sides multiple times a game." nflbreakdowns.com - "Above average speed, but not the quick-twitch athlete you want to see from a top-tier prospect. Due to lack of quick-twitch muscles, he doesn’t (and rarely attempted) covert speed-to-power." Again I didn't cherry pick these. His lack of explosion really shows up on tape. This doesn't mean he's going to be a bad player, its just that Buckner is much more explosive. That being said Buckner is very raw and can't hold a candle to Bosa's hand placement and technique. I'm not disagreeing with you over the fact that Bosa is the better prospect, I'm just pointing out that his explosion, suddenness, quick twitch does not match Buckners.

Buckner is a lot more explosive than Bosa

It is doubtful that Jack will be playing any running back. The risk on injury is to great.

i concur. His lack of explosion and stiff hips worry me. Especially if he is playing at OLB

it really isn't prudent for the FO to go into the draft with a game plan to sign 1 offensive guys and the rest on defense. Although I see posts like this a lot on this forum (some people will even go as far as assigning a specific position to each round). it is just not how the FO works.

derrick henry isn't even the best rb in this draft class. I would only take him in the second round.

KO is an average left tackle. I have watched a lot of his tape and his kick slide is very stiff. His movements are almost mechanical in a way, He is just not as agile as other left tackles in the league. He has a difficult time sticking with players who cross his face. That being said he is a serviceable left tackle. But he is an above average guard which is really his natural position.

Didn't Suggs finish a 20 sack season before being drafted? I pray to God Bosa is slower than expected haha and SD, DAL, or JAX thinks they're outsmarting other teams and take Buckner, whom I would still be happy with too. bosa is going to run a slow time alright. he is projected to run in the 4.8 range. what worries me about him is that he isn't very explosive unlike suggs.

the only way we pick Treadwell is if we trade back. He isn't worth the sixth pick Some think that he isn't even the top receiver in the class.

the players you mentioned were drafted 27th and 54th respectively. i think treadwell is a first round talent, just not at pick six.

Agreed!! Our own SSS doesn't have game breaking speed, but he seems to get open a lot. Running great routes will get you open more than just having game breaking speed. well thats the thing, his route running isn't very polished or crisp. And without speed and good route running he isn't worthy of the sixth pick.

I edited my post for clarification. However, there are options out there who can do just as good of a job for much, much less. At LT, for example, you have Beatty, Bushrod, Beachum, and possibly Clady, all of whom are just as injury-prone as Monroe, but who could be signed for much less, likely 1-year prove-it deals. I think we could cut and re-sign Webb as we did with Canty last year. Bilukidi did very little last year, playing in only 4 games, so I don't see why anyone would defend keeping him. Daryl Smith is getting old/slow. This is a young man's game. There are younger LBs like Orr who could step up and replace him. And I am not necessarily suggesting we cut Forsett because our other RBs are spectacular (Forsett is a good RB, and West seems average while Tali is injury-prone). What I am suggesting is that, if the coaching staff thinks our 3 RBs on rookie contracts is good enough, then they should keep the 3 rookie-deal RBs, whose combined cap hit is less than Forsett's, and cut Forsett. I don't think this should happen actually, but it could. what you are not understanding is that cutting someone doesn't automatically clear the team of dead money. You are not being realistic at all. The tackles you have mentioned will assuredly earn a contract greater than 1 mil a year.

I wouldn't put to much stock into the depth chart. It was clear to everyone that jensen did very well at guard. Urshle gets beat a lot and doesn't have the tenacity that Jensen has.

jennsen performed much better at LG than Urschel did

i have to agree with you on this. his times are going to be slow and his lack of hip flexibility is going to hurt him

will hill is a top ten safety in the league. the question mark is webb and if he can make a smooth transition to safety.

that would surely be a pleasant surprise