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Three observation about the draft:
1.Grades are ridiculous
2. So much hype , so much nonsense.
3. Can't miss picks? Another silly designation.
But this is the time of the year enthusiasm is high, after all the ravens are unbeaten. Pass the purple cool aide which, btw, I love.

How much money did he make as a Raven? Had to be one or two million. I never understood how players who have made good money get caught up in illegal schemes ( if that is what happened).

Pass rush, pass rush, and pass rush are the three keys to beating the Patriots.

He has pretty much followed the same pattern as a pro as in college. Made spectacular catches and then dropped balls that he should have had. You can't teach what he needs -- one has it or not. Remember when the problem was a " lack of concentration"? I hope I'm wrong .

I am not comparing Flacco to Unitas except in one respect--Unitas never showed emotion on any play ( I watched him for years) Flacco shows more emotion , watch his reaction to a TD pass. Leadership takes many forms. Ray's vision represents what he was as a player and that's what he expects of "good leaders". Ray would have not been impressed with Unitas or others who differ from his vision -- and that's his prerogative.

he has a tendency to drop the easy ones and grab the impossible ones. He needs to work on his concentration when its a simple throw and catch.

Seems like it to me too.

I do not understand Perriman -- He makes a tremendous catch for a TD but drops a pass that hits him in the hands. Seems to be his MO as he done the same thing in other games. Head scratching to me.

My guess is that Kessler will be considered for offensive rookie of the year after he plays the Ravens. Normally they make McCown look like a HOFer.

What was his injury history when he was with the Ravens?

We are3 3-0 largely because we have played bad teams. Ok, the defense is improved, but the offense, oh the offense, still stinks. Even worse than last year, they can't run at all. The line has been nothing short of terrible. If we had played the big boys instead of the also-rans, we would not be 3-0. I thought the Steelers were the team to beat until I saw the Eagles whitewash them. We play both. To have a chance against either, the offense has to start scoring points and making first downs. Trestman's game plan is horrible. We need three yards for a first down and Joe throws the pass three yards behind the line of scrimmage. What the heck is that? Better to throw for the first down and incomplete than keep throwing short of it. They have done that same crap in all three games. Perriman stinks. He is the offensive version of Elam. Both wasted first round draft picks. He drops passes every game. Anyone who watched him in college saw this. Why didn't the Ravens?

Better 3-0 than 0-3 -- even with the problems to which you referred.

No running game -- biggest problem. Also, where's Aiken? Should play him.

Perriman made a great catch and then dropped one that he should have had-- that has been pattern for him. Also, first down on the 13 yard line and two runs are called. Mindboggling to me.

Well, we are undefeated so far.

Gotta love the kool aid that we drink in August -- every year. Mmm good.

just curious -- what would have been his salary? Is that woth it to have him coach Stanley if he re-injures his knee?

All is well that ends well.

The Raven's FO know what Tucker is worth to the team and what they can afford for the team's future-- I don't have that knowledge therefore they will do what is best, in the long run for the team. ( Boy--I hope they are right). As far as Tucker's comments about next year--I take them with a grain of salt. A lover's spat. All of us have said similar things in the past and then made up. We'll see.

Hope that it's true but we'll see.

  11 hours ago, RayRocks said:

Reading this comments thread makes me really glad that 95% of this board aren't working in the front office

1.  No - we're not cutting Perriman.  Not this year, and almost definitely not next year either.  And probably not the year after that.  He's extremely cheap and still has a ton of potential.  We don't even know for sure if he needs surgery yet.  If he does and it was only a partial tear, there's still at least a chance that he goes on the PUP list and comes back to play the last 6-8 games.  If he was activated at that point it'd be almost 6 months, which isn't unheard of for a partial tear as far as I can tell.

2.  Anquan Boldin is not the answer.  There's no good reason to bring on a 36 year old receiver who can't separate from defensive backs.  He was phenomenal during our Super Bowl run, but he's really not that much better than Kamar Aiken is at this point in his career - they're actually very, very similar receivers even though Boldin was obviously a better player in his prime.

This is sad for Perriman, but there's still a chance he could come back from this and be a good player. 

Perriman will never hit the field in a real game for the Ravens. Sorry, but that's reality.

I agree. It's tough enough to play in the NFL with two good knees but with two bad knees without being hit? Perriman's future doesn't look promising. Too bad for him and the Ravens.

Disappointing but can't miss what you have never had. The Ravens have some good receivers and Chris Moore looked like the real deal in films. As for Perriman, hope that he gets well and is able to play. Tough break for him and the Ravens.

What , exactly, are you bona fides with regard to drafting football players?  The Ravens didn't draft the person that you thought was the best. I wonder how many times that sentiment is expressed by fans for every team-- either for or against a player. List your picks now and then next year they can be shared to see how effective you were in your selections so that you can be graded.

2 hours ago, fusuymada said:

Lets just take names and forget the draft pick numbers. If today you were offered Ramsey for Stanley and Kaufusi (or whatever his name is) would you do it? In a heartbeat or maybe quicker. However, by holding on to that third round pick, that is what we turned down. To me, it is a no-brainer, it was a no-brainer draft night. We could have traded back up and got another left tackle, but we really didn't need one, we had Monroe who people may not like, but he is now healthier than he has ever been so lets get rid of him, like we have many players, to watch him be successful somewhere else. Why is it we do that? Why did we value a third rounder which, like many other third rounders, we get rid of in a couple years, or we could have had Ramsey who would have been that anchor for a decade or more. I just don't understand the love of picks just for the sake of having picks. And the logic of lets get more so maybe we hit on one tells me we aren't really good at doing this or we would have more faith in the guys we select. We drafted Arthur Brown in the second round and moved up to get him but we wont to get Ramsey. This FO has lost its way.

Really?  RGlll was inducted into the HOF after being picked -- adoring fans who gushed at how great he would be. The once in a decade player AKA J. Clowney was all pro last year-- ah, not so much. No- brainer? The draft is littered with " no- brainers" and flops. I'm sure that others on thi thread can add their own " no- brainers".

I wonder how many people who thought that the Ravens should have drafted Jack had previously posted that taking Perriman was a mistake because of his knee? ( Hindsight, as they say, is 20/20. Also, he didn't even have a reported knee problem)

19 minutes ago, Puntit said:

We wouldn't touch Jack because of the knee and wouldn't touch Spence (or Tunsil ) because of the character issues and extensive off-field history. I am okay with that. We can't afford rookies that will sit or get suspended. Josh Gordon was a similar high upside, long off field history guy and I think that's not panning out so well for the Browns.

I am not convinced the two WR you are listing are actually even better than the two WR we took, but frankly no WR is likely going to leapfrog SS, BP, MW, KA, Camp, D Brown, Butler, Mathews etc, anyhow, so high upside multi-year projects are not so unreasonable with that position. We didn't need a play now WR. 

We took three DE that were high on our board after Bosa was gone, so I don't think the later two you listed even ever made the radar or should be sources of disappointment. So that just leaves LB (other than Jack) and CB. CB we addressed, but maybe missed out on a few of the better guys because we were mainly focused on DE early. With Suggs and Doom at the later end of their careers we needed to find pass rushers, so I am cool with that. Time will tell. ILB we ignored-- either they are convinced Brown or Orr is ready or that they'll scoop one up as a cap casualty. For one position that's very doable-- it's how we got Smith.

We went into this draft thinking pass rush, and came out with three good ones plus a well regarded UDFA at the position. And a left tackle. That's already a decent draft. But then players like Dixon that give us more playmaking dimensions is icing. Nobody knows if these guys will pan out but it's hard to say the Ravens didn't get guys who might be big role players. And it's very possible they dodged a few time bombs in the process.

Makes sense to me.

9 minutes ago, Minionhunter said:

The goal is not to win the draft, the goal is to win the Superbowl.

We don't know what moves the two 2nd round trade downs allowed them to make/not make with all subsequent picks, it could have been very different in filling needs. I really like the pass rushers we got.

My guess is Spence was a calculated risk and that they thought if he got by Tampa great, if not, they had Correra back pocket. Correra can still add substantial weight and muscle.

The more I think about this draft, the better I like it. I would give it an "A-" since I think they could have taken one or two late/very late shots to get at least one of two players they could have had for a ham sandwich next Tuesday and half a can of bacon grease. Kolby Listenbee (went to Buffalo mid 6th round, they maybe were thinking he would fall to them with their last pick) and Scooby Wright (who they would have had to give up a 6th next year to get, and he almost fell to the UDFA auction, being taken 3rd to last by the Browns).

For those of you down on Moore, think about this. Cincinnati (who we struggle with) spent their first round pick on corner William Jackson III.

Chris Moore eating William Jackson III alive

 

Great comment and thanks for the video. Moore looks like the real deal.