Minionhunter

Also I would like to see SSS stick around for another year because:
1) he has the gas in the tank (and a super-charger under the hood)
2) the ring feels like it is within reach, and I want to see him get one
3) one more good season and he could quite easily hit no.3 on the all time receiving yards list ... very achievable

I agree.

I say forget about last week, last month, last year and years prior. Those games no longer matter! Let's place our concern to the game at hand and help our team win a divisional match against a team we have dropped 5 to. That's the only thing important right now.

Exactly right.

Pitta is going to get Joe on the injury list if he keeps playing.

I wish this weren't true, but sadly I think you are right.

In all fairness, I don't think any of the teams on our remaining schedule are as tough as Dallas, and we only lost to Dallas by 19 points, and that was without our #1 corner.

We could possibly win out, or go 5-1; and I don't rule out a 4-2 getting it done, with us owning the tie-breaker and being unbeaten in the division.

What happens after that is really up in the air. Can we win the Wild Card game? It will depend on the opponent.

This season isn't over, yet.

Hat tip to you, this is exactly the attitude we all should have, we did show improvement in Dallas (loss was by 10 points). See Weddle's speech after the game.

Steelers catch a MAJOR break with Luck not playing. That was a very winnable game for the Colts who have been playing well lately. Bummer.

Just when you thought Tomlin's rabbit's foot was rubbed down to just bones and dry flaking leather, this happens. Plus Baltimore fans must root for the colts to win on Thanksgiving night. Only thing I can say is "Go Colts!" Because the Steelers winning just isn't acceptable.

At least they aren't the Patriots.

with a healthy jimmy the defense is good enough. the offense is lost and it makes no sense with a 9 year veteran behind center. there is enough talent to score more points but they are still out of sync after 10 games. need to get perriman and aiken more involved and hopefully with boyle back the running game will be even more improved and he can catch as well. morningweg has not been that bad. flacco is off target and receivers need to do a better job with separation more quickly. every week i pray the offense turns the corner. hopefully my prayer is answered sunday

You all forget how bad Brady looked coming back from his ACL

  1 hour ago, balfan23 said:

  1 hour ago, JamesA119 said:

Your perspective of how Flacco is playing is downright comical. I bet you missed the play when Steve Smith ran an out pattern, and Flacco threw it out of bounds on an3rd down, and we had to punt. I bet you also didn't see that playnwherenSteve Smith had to make himself almost 10 ft tall and kept his feet in bounds to complete the catch. This was also a simple out pattern that Flacco almost blew. There wasn't any play on Sunday where a WR dropped the ball.
Did you really watch the game? If you did I'm sure you would seen a great QB on the other side. Of course you'd rather blame the other 52 players that play for the Ravens.
By position do we have a player on the Ravens roster that ranks as low as Flacco does in his position? He is the 29th ranked QB. What does that mean to you?

I don't think Flacco's been right all year ... but there are games where we can put the blame squarely on him, but there are people who seem to want to put the full blame on him on every loss. To me, the offense hung in for the first half, but then come the second half, they only had one possession (that got destroyed by a terrible personal foul call) ... and that was the end of the 3rd quarter. The defense allowed the Cowboys to chew the clock to nothing. The offense didn't even have a chance to blow it. They didn't see the ball. 

To me, this game flipped at the half and it was all about the pass rush. The 1st half it was respectable and the 2nd it was non-existent. Even if Jimmy been available and had the game of his life and shut Dez down - it wouldn't matter. Dak could have gone through 12 progressions and hit any receiver who could manage to get open. Our edge rush shows glimmers of hope ... where we start thinking that maybe Siz can return to form and Smith and Judon can grow (why am I not saying Correa .. but I digress) but in the end ... a good O line and the pass rush can disappear. 

By the way my original argument about Flacco's ineffectiveness wasn't as a result of this game. It was as a result of cumulative posts by fans who always blames the Oline, the WRs, the defense, the OC, the coach - anyone but Flacco who is not only the weakest link but also whom elevated play could have the biggest impact.

Yep, this tells us you are uninterested in anything but your points. You ignore the points in the post that you replied to, which was about Sunday's game specifically, and just pile on the hate and loathing. At least you admit it here. You are only interested in hating on Flacco, and making sweeping generalizations.

9 minutes ago, Minionhunter said:

Heh. Ben gibbering like an idiot again trying to look like a tough guy.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/22/ben-roethlisberger-has-no-doubt-andrew-luck-will-play/

Just announced that Luck is definitely out for the game.

 

PFT quote

"Just when you think Tomlin’s rabbit’s foot must be worn down to the skin…"

Heh. Ben gibbering like an idiot again trying to look like a tough guy.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/22/ben-roethlisberger-has-no-doubt-andrew-luck-will-play/

Just announced that Luck is definitely out for the game.

5 minutes ago, Minionhunter said:

Glad I'm not the only one who sees that. I've stopped going to a specific other site starting yesterday that blamed Sunday's loss on Flacco when he had a decent game (not perfect for sure, but good enough to win). I'm not giving them any more revenue with my clicks if they just want to spout nonsense.

The main problem was stupid penalties (opposed to calculated risk penalties) killing drives. Either wiping out first downs or huge chunks of yards which would have made it "simple to run the ball" on the next down but the penalty forces another pass instead. These things are a double whammy, they add another pass (a harder one to complete) to the stat line and effectively remove a running play, so the pass appears to be over-emphasized. Been the same all year (or drops by a WR on passes that hit them in the hands buddy pass style). It's like no one is watching the game and thinking about it. They just seem to look at stats, and you can't tell what happened in the game just from the stats.

These are interesting comments from a Browns player when juxtaposed to our own line.

“They [Brown's quarterbacks] can’t keep getting hit like that, and if I want to voice my opinion, I’m going to voice my opinion now, because it’s going on too much,” Pryor said, per Cleveland.com. “I don’t care if you’ve got to hold these dudes. Hold them and take the damn penalty and stop getting our quarterbacks hit. I hate that.” [emphasis added]

I wonder if our lines are similar in that both are struggling, but our line has a mandate, stated or unstated, to keep Joe from getting hit because of the injury.

14 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Precisely my point. That's what people are arguing about... ONE more running play.

We ran the ball twice in two drives. The first drive we ran it for no yards, forcing us into 2nd and 10. If you're advocating that we run the ball on 2nd and 10, feel free to post specifically why you think its a good idea.

The second drive we had a 9 yard gain on 1st down, which was negated by a 15 yard penalty on Zuttah after the play. That put us with a 2nd and 16. You don't run the ball on 2nd and 16.

By the time we got the ball again, we're down 14 with 11 minutes left. You don't run the ball barely at all in those spots either.

This isn't rocket science people.

Glad I'm not the only one who sees that. I've stopped going to a specific other site starting yesterday that blamed Sunday's loss on Flacco when he had a decent game (not perfect for sure, but good enough to win). I'm not giving them any more revenue with my clicks if they just want to spout nonsense.

The main problem was stupid penalties (opposed to calculated risk penalties) killing drives. Either wiping out first downs or huge chunks of yards which would have made it "simple to run the ball" on the next down but the penalty forces another pass instead. These things are a double whammy, they add another pass (a harder one to complete) to the stat line and effectively remove a running play, so the pass appears to be over-emphasized. Been the same all year (or drops by a WR on passes that hit them in the hands buddy pass style). It's like no one is watching the game and thinking about it. They just seem to look at stats, and you can't tell what happened in the game just from the stats.

1 minute ago, Bat-mite said:

Nailed it!

The crew was trying to save their own reputation. Still no excuse, but it is "one more man" playing for the other side you have to fight. Why do people think Harbs said in his press conference he didn't see Zuttah's hit, and fake acting surprised by it that he didn't even know that he was called for a penalty, and that reporters should tell him that and write about what they thought. He knew, they all knew, but I bet the team issued a mandate this year (and good for them) about not criticizing the refs, because they got into a really bad way doing that last year, even though they were right.

10 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

0. 

I suppose you could argue that we "abandoned the run" based on gameflow and us literally having to abandon the run, but I think the fans that think we abandoned the run are only looking at the boxscore and didn't actually watch the game.

Specifically, the first two drives in the 2nd half. Would love for literally anybody to tell me where we had the opportunity to run the ball more and why running the ball more would have been more effective.

By my analysis they could have run it one more time after West's run for zero on the second series in the second half, but it is a traditional passing down (2nd and long, quick pass to get a chunk of yards to make 3rd down easier). McJacket is right on this.

You could say that they don't appear overly committed to the run or they are not going against the standard play calling to push the running identity, or they are not imaginative in using the run, but they didn't abandon it until they very end when they had to.

1 hour ago, Halshayeji said:

Please don't get me started. "Home field advantage" huh. Bunch of shmucks reffing the damn game. What about the tacky PI on the very next drive and then calling Zuttahs hit late when 3 guys were still tackling SSS. I'm not saying the NFL is a joke but what else can I say they are a joke and we knew this would happen! Oh and the ghost holding and the low hit on flaccos legs. But no one saw that.

dodnt I ask you not to get me started. Oh man what a heartbreak of a game. But seriously we could have and should have played a lot better than that.

make up game by refs to throw to Dallas

http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-cowboys/post/_/id/4755706/cowboys-havent-had-much-luck-with-john-parry-as-ref

2 hours ago, omar586 said:

why is levine not on the field.

Not sure if I should laugh or be riled by this one. I do know Brooks would have been in there and likely would have laid someone out.

1 minute ago, hereweare said:

lol well they won't be wasting it on us 

LOL! Seriously, never underestimate the pure hate that team and ownership has for the Ravens....

Plus Gostkowski has been missing extra points this year and seems to have a mental thing since last season when he lost their playoff game by missing an extra point. 

For everyone thinking that the New England game is going to be a loss for us, I can tell you that they are imploding on defense right now. Belicheat has caused a mini mutiny in trading away players on defense. They are more beatable than Dallas and we always play them tough. Only reason for concern is if they have a new cheating method they have been saving up.

I really wish they would try and talk Steve Smith into coming back next year. I bet if John and Ozzie both told him they really wanted and needed him and gave him a good one year contract he would come back.

3 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

I don't respect wining against a team without their top playmakers but I sure as hell hope Green sits the next game out coz we really need it. Dez destroyed us not just in the stats department. His first 6 catches were 4 third down conversions and 2 TDs on 1vs1. 

Yes, and they didn't call his obvious pushoff on a facemask to rescue that drive they had to make the 1st down. Refs were obviously pro Dallas that day.

I'm just thinking, what is the world coming to?

We have to root for the Luckless Colts on Thanksgiving.

When he noticed Luck is likely out with a concussion for the IND-PIT game, Ben said "Well, I've already been in the concussion protocol three times this week. And I'm not a drama queen."

Stolen from PFT

14 hours ago, Militant X 1 said:

Joe has said that he likes the no huddle.  It helps him and the offense get into what I call a "confident-rhythm".  When you're constantly moving the chains it becomes a psychological warfare of some sorts.  You're establishing in the minds of your opponents that we can move the ball on you at will and you can't stop it!  Both TD drives....once earlier in the game and then when they were down by 14...they ran the no huddle...moved the chains ...and put up TD's.  

So, why in the hell would you go away from what is working?  The argument?  Got to take what the defense gives you yada, yada, yada!  No!  Whatever happened to just..."running your offense?"  The Ravens defense slowed down Zeke today but they stayed true to their offensive style of wearing defenses down by running the ball and controlling the time of possession!  THAT'S WHAT THEY DO!  And that is regardless of what their opponents do.  Not the Ravens!

The offensive game planning and playcalling is just mind-boggling with this team.  Smh!

I don't always agree with you but this is accurate. At the very least they should have gone no huddle the entire second half, as soon as it started. Morhenwig is the wrong guy. Just like Trestman he can't adapt, plus he can't install his offense either. I personally think MM was pissed at everyone suggesting he should go no huddle up tempo he wanted to prove that they didn't need to do it. Then when he recognized they had to use it (and it worked) it was already too late. 

If Ray really was sorry, if he really didn't mean what he said, if he meant that he wanted to treat Joe like a man, a friend, then he would have called him to personally apologize, like a man. This was a bunch of lies trying to salvage a dying media career.

Disingenuous again Ray. You said Joe wasn't family or a friend. It was entirely a personal attack, it was entirely about Joe. This wasn't an apology, it was damage control.

Whistle blown or not, Zuttah's hit was unnecessary

Nope. His hit was fine and necessary. The Dallas player was illegally facemasking Dixon and Zuttah cleaned him off of Dixon. That is what you want to see. People are riled because his other two penalties cost us dearly killing drives, just like this one. However the holding call on him was bogus. The refs screwed us. Everyone talks about the no call when the guy tackled Aiken, but less so when Wallace was held and when Dez pushed off Young's facemask to convert the third down. It was a terribly called game.