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Welker comes in and Perriman gets a torn ACL. I know it's not true but I can't be the only one thinking #patriotssleeperagent

Joe didn't even get to throw to him this year....

  3 hours ago, ravensnj said:

The Ravens have been known as a team that likes to run the ball and continue to run it throughout the game, no matter the score. A team that has great success throughout their history, which leads people to believe anyone that runs the rock will be a top notch fantasy football stud. I too, take a Raven Rb on all my fantasy teams. My plan is to swoop in on Dixon in the middle rounds and stash him to about week 6. He will be great in ppr leagues and maybe carry me to a championship!

Perhaps you haven't played Fantasy Football long enough??

Here's a reminder for you. Several years ago, the league had a plethora of FEATURE running backs. I'm talking back around 2005, 2006. Back when Fantasy got real popular. In the last few years, there have not been as many FEATURE backs. The league did appear to be trending back to what things were before when you think about the Leveon Bells, the Todd Gurleys, "AD" obviously. Yes Marshawn Lynch retired, and Matt Forte is only occasionally healthy and and same story for Jamal Charles, and Ed Lacy has not shown the same promise as his rookie year, but you now have other potential FEATURE backs...guys with promise such as TJ Yeldon, Latavius Murray, Melvin Gordon, III maybe, Lesean McCoy still has great days ahead, as does Doug Martin. Can't forget about Demarco, David Johnson. Nevermind the out of nowhere play from Devonta Freeman who was actually expected to play behind rookie Tevin Coleman. Whether Ezekiel lives up to the hype or not, the league is back in the position of having more than 10 bonafide FEATURE backs.

Teams with tandems or Running Back Duos aren't the best option for Fantasy. Even if they are considered sleepers. A guy might play well one week and then he doesn't do anything for 4 weeks. And then of course he plays well the week that you bench him. It's a guessing game. I don't doubt that he can play well and be a sleeper, but to think that he'll win you a championship is Pie in the Sky man!

I don't see Dixon winning 85% of snaps over the incumbents on the roster and even if he did, I see the MAJORITY of our TDs coming from the 10 receivers we'll have on the roster - whether anyone of the 4 TEs or the however many WRs we'll have. You're probably better off going with a guy like Carlos Hyde as your sleeper because Baltimore does not have a FEATURE back right now. IN FACT, you're better off picking him up as a free agent and not in the draft.

This is a good post.

6 hours ago, donkeyking64 said:

WOW - Ravens Fans and Ravens Writers and their Eternal Optimism. I get it. I am one and I'm always optimistic.

It's just that the conversation about Offensive Rookie of the Year last year this time was about Max Williams. Not sure why that was, but it was about Max Williams. Now this year it's about Kenneth Dixon?????

I would think Breshad Perriman would be the best Fairy Tale Candidate for OROY. Definitely not the guy who will be challenging 3 other guys for snaps the whole regular season.

"Redshirt OROY" maybe for BP [which would be the best thing for the team], technically he is a sophomore. If Dixon is OROY it will be because the passing game, likely though outside speed, opened up the running game. That is if Trestman sticks to the run/pass balance from the Kubiak offense. I don't fault Trestman for last year, there is a point at which you must change to throwing. What I would like to see is a breakdown of what was done last year in the first half of games, did they keep the balance? Getting only 2-3 YPC is fine in the first half if you are doing it to cause fear/threaten/induce anticipation that you will run later in the game at any time. I don't know where I would go to extract that kind of information. Does anyone know?

It's a bit on the funny side how every single RB taken by the Ravens in the mid-rounds is almost automatically labelled a potential steel of the draft - mostly by the Baltimore-related press though... Pierce was heralded as the all-but-guaranteed successor of Rice - he's on the street as a free agent currently, and may be out of the NFL. Then came Taliaferro, who was seen as the new Raven RB for long years to come, and do what Pierce couldn't - now he's almost universally regarded on the roster bubble. Then came Buck Allen, who was said to be pro-ready, the most talented RB taken by the Ravens in a ,long time, a potential start etc... - and then, although he proved he can be a good RB, he definitely didn't break out last season.

I can only hope Dixon will break the pattern.

I, unfortunately, don't think Dixon will break the pattern, he will be like Monte Ball at best. Our chance to break the pattern was last year with Karlos Williams (5th round to the Bills) who I was praying the Ravens would take. If we keep picking these non-power RB we will continue the pattern. I wish Dixon the best and I hope he proves me wrong, I just see a lot of E-W running from him and not a lot of vision behind the line, Excellent vision in space, and tremendous when given a bit of space to build up steam.

Darkhorse candidate is West, who could break the pattern using the whole Native son angle, the Browns were stupid to take him just to spite us. I give him the highest already on the team chance to break the pattern this year. Native son angle can work well. Has anyone caught anything about him from the beat guys and gals? Like he looks like he has been in the gym constantly or similar?

I think Talliaferro is gone. I think that TR would be great if he could just.... You know, like everyone else, he will just have to keep the spirit and fight all odds, only way he will do it and ironically or just simply it is the route he must take to do it since that is the only way it can be done. He should talk with BP who seems like he has done that (I hope) from the WR route.

Thanks RRRR and Jacket, I knew I shouldn't trust a thing that guy has to say.... Just needed someone else to confirm my inner suspicion I guess. Slow news week due to the practices being cancelled.

Has anyone heard anything about Stanley so far in OTA's? That guy no one likes at the paper said he was getting tossed around by our D-linemen, not sure what to make of it. Other than that I couldn't find anything about him, and it seems suspicious to me since they are trying to bring out the positive in everyone right now.

Perriman had a 4.24 Proday time, he had a hamstring and was absent from the combine. His time should be treated as a 4.34 official time since you should add 0.1 sec on to proday hand timed results. I really like him, I want him to succeed and do amazing things for us. I have his jerseys for my kids to wear. I think he is a blazing fast beast and our fastest player. However these things need to be kept in proper perspective.

I don't care what joe's stats are outside of wins. I want that as high as possible.

Oddly we have not heard much about Stanley this preseason. The only thing that I have heard so far is that his footwork is great but he's being tossed around like a toy by the D linemen. The source is credentialed but a real jerk I normally go out of my ways not to read, so I don't know what to make of it other than the conspicuous lack of other mentions.

And Moore torched cincy's shiny new CB in college

I really like him and want him to have a fantastic year and career. Ellicottraven, remember his speed was at his pro day and you should add 0.1 seconds on to that time. Remember he missed the combine due to a hamstring injury. Just trying to keep it balanced.

I didn't think Tunsil would be a Raven ever since the DV history came out, no shot. I'm glad too because he can't seem to stay healthy. I wish nothing bad for him but he already has an acl and other leg problems. Glad we got Stanley, the Alfred to Joe's Batman.

Favorite picks for me are Correra (waiting to see what he is like in a year when he bulks up in their training program) and Moore (he just gets behind defenses and no one can pinpoint how) plus he ate the Bengals shiny new first round corner alive, just ate the flesh off him in college.

28 minutes ago, jrubin80 said:

@Mike B. Who says he doesn't need surgery? Jack said himself that doctors said he could need Microfracture surgery in the future. ALl due respect but
the fans that are upset over The Ravens not drafting an injured player are the
same fans who are labeling Perriman a bust!!!

The damage control from Dr. Andersen before day 2 was that Jack did not need surgery (meaning he doesn't need it now = true). The first mention about Jack that set everyone off was that his knee was a timebomb, he could need surgery in a year or four years, but time is ticking. Jack himself said he may need surgery sometime (meaning sometime in the future, he might need surgery) which agrees with the anonymous GM quote about murky future for Jack. I hope he needs nothing and does well, I never wish injury on a player, but obviously the Ravens medical staff gave a prediction that gave the evaluators enough pause to push him down our board past where he was picked.

The goal is not to win the draft, the goal is to win the Superbowl.

We don't know what moves the two 2nd round trade downs allowed them to make/not make with all subsequent picks, it could have been very different in filling needs. I really like the pass rushers we got.

My guess is Spence was a calculated risk and that they thought if he got by Tampa great, if not, they had Correra back pocket. Correra can still add substantial weight and muscle.

The more I think about this draft, the better I like it. I would give it an "A-" since I think they could have taken one or two late/very late shots to get at least one of two players they could have had for a ham sandwich next Tuesday and half a can of bacon grease. Kolby Listenbee (went to Buffalo mid 6th round, they maybe were thinking he would fall to them with their last pick) and Scooby Wright (who they would have had to give up a 6th next year to get, and he almost fell to the UDFA auction, being taken 3rd to last by the Browns).

For those of you down on Moore, think about this. Cincinnati (who we struggle with) spent their first round pick on corner William Jackson III.

Chris Moore eating William Jackson III alive

Major trolling of NE with this pick. This was belicheat's guy and we take him.Cool.

Why Moore over Mitchell? Mitchell goes next to NE and has hands bigger than OBJ circus catching ball hawk that played war corner and kick returner. I guess his injury history killed it for us with him which is a real concern,he needs to stay healthy.

The Ravens are hoping for Batman Flacco, Robin Perriman, and Alfred Stanley. Better now.

I had a nightmare last night and woke up thinking they ran the second round and Dallas took Spence. Hopefully not prophetic.

Dallas is reportedly trying to trade with the Browns right now (per SiriusXM NFL channel). Uggggghhh....

Somewhat of cross posting from yesterday's thread, but I wanted to state again, the alternate, alternerte jersey they are pushing can/could be a good thing. I like the example above, but they could go more extreme.

The "color rush" idea is flawed. Using colors not normally present in nature is just a horrid idea, that means for most people the eye is trained to see them as unnatural and want to avoid them. The result is the intense dislike of the concept, because the solid color uniforms are associated with visual displeasure. The "keep going with it" is just following the sunk cost fallacy, throwing good money after bad because of "the investment". They should sink the "color rush" and switch to an alternate, alternate uniform. Call it the Ultimate uniform, whatever.

The Ravens seem to have the idea about right, if they want to do a special uniform game (Thursday) they need to do a radical redesign that people have a chance of finding pleasant.

They start at 1 and rank Goff #3 to the Ravens but no Wentz? Yeah right.

The color rush idea is flawed. Using colors not normally present in nature is just a horrid idea, that means for most people the eye is trained to see them as unnatural and want to avoid them. The result is the intense dislike of the concept, could have told them that. The going with it is following the sunk cost fallacy throwing good money after bad because of "the investment". The Ravens seem to have the idea fine right, if they want to do a special uniform game they need to do a radical redesign that people have a chance of finding pleasant.

  32 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

This year is a tough year to try to figure what the Ravens are going to do. The last three years I was able to determine at least what position they would draft but this year there are only a few "great" players and a whole bunch of "good" players. Is one great player worth more than 2 or 3 players who may have off field issues, be of lesser quality or have a lower up side. I know as fans we want that great player but with our needs, what is out there and the quantities they are there at, trading back, to even 8 with the Eagles, would get at least one more good pick and we could still come away with Hargreaves. But in my opinion, if Ramsey or Tunsil is there, and we trade back, someone should have their heads examined but short of that if they can move back, still get Hargreaves and then be able to move back into the first round and get someone like Spence and then our second round pick could get someone like Nkemdiche I would be tickled. I know I chose two guys with off field issues but if the Ravens can get one to buy into the team, then that would be a good draft to me (Hargreaves, Spence, Nkemdiche).

That's because after the SB, this "team" became totally controlled Johns team and Ozzy's picks have been very questionable. Perriman will probably go down as the Ravens biggest bust in history. He can't - hasn't even made it thru practice.

I don't think so. Elam was Mr 32 and playing safety is hard and requires stability which Pees didn't provide moving him all around the backfield. Perriman was a consensus pick, maybe injuries will make him a bust make not, but he has been trained by Michael Irvin his whole life and I want to give him at least this season if not next too before I call him a bust. The Bears had their #1 WR miss all last season too... Injuries happen, just ask Urban. The thing with Perriman was the weird handling of the reporting then his re-injury of it. I think they are going slowly to maximize the chance he can successfully reintegrate into playing. I wish him all the luck.