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      18 hours ago, steelcityraven said:
      23 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:
      23 hours ago, thecommish said:

    in a league with a type cap limit which is always eaten up in large part by QBs - No team can afford to overstock any position. 1.Watson 2. Pitta 3. Gilmore 4. Waller 5. Maxx - 6. Boyle Even if we cut Watson and released Waller or Maxx (which I dounbt) that would still leave us with 3 TEs and I just dont see us drafting a 5th TE in round 1.

    OJ is a great talent but not the right move for us. If Andrew Luck or another top tier QB prospect came out this draft - even if they would be an upgrade we dont go out and get them; We have a franchise QB- Drafting another franchise QB would be a wasted draft pick (Even if they became the starter) then we would have a ton of dead money and we would waste a previous pick.

    Maxx -and Crocket are high draft picks and we cannot afford to over stock one position and leave the cupboards bare in other spots....

    This is what the Browns and other cellar dwellers do.

    I agree Howard might not be the right move, but what do you say to not having a single reliable te that can block and catch?
    -Pitta is not durable, cant block, is overrated as a receiver, and handicaps predictability when on the field.
    -Gilmore and Williams(bust) couldn't even get on the field last year........
    -And Watson is old, coming off injury and probably gone
    - And Waller is nothing

    And I'm not saying cut anyone besides Watson, or necc. draft Howard, but our TE group went from "being the best in the league"-(Gilmore's genius claim last year), to being sad and completely unreliable.

    Sizzlingdoom....

    I am not as ready to suggest that we don't have a single reliable TE.
    I agree that we probably don't have a very complete TE (outside of Ben Watson but we don't know what he has left and how healthy he is)

    We do have a sure handed TE in Pitta who should be a year healthier.
    We do have a very good TE in Gilmore who can block and has shown the ability to move the chains. I am not ready to give up on him bc he was injured. (Gronk, Julius Thomas, Antonio Gates, Ladarius Green, Eric Ebron, Tyler Eifert, Jimmy Graham, Charles Clay, Vern Davis, and more have all missed significant playing time in their careers and many of them even last season. That don't mean that I wouldn't take any one of them)

    Gilmore has shown that he has ability but got injured last season. That happens. Lets see if he is healthy and can take the next step. We have every reason to believe that he can.

    Maxx has ability but his body was not NFL ready and he needed to add strength. He now has two seasons under his belt and his body has changed. I am not sure that I am quite ready to write him off yet either.

    Waller... showed flashes of high end ability last season and flashes of why he may never live up to his potential... but changing positions is tough / doing it the NFL is crazy. The learning curve is steep and he does have a very high ceiling. This year should mean marked improvement for him as he has a year experience at the new position.

    Boyle..... TBH he looked better then Gilmore but he is a risk bc of his PED use. If he can stay on the field... he has shown the ability to not just block but move the chains. He will fight for those tough yards and he brings an attitude to that offense. Problem is... with such a full house at TE will he really get a chance ( and without a move to Fullback or Hback- I don't think he will). Just too risky but not a bad player.

    I think our biggest problem at TE is Joes reliance on the check down and his unwillingness stand in the pocket and go through his progressions. He wants to hurry up and dump the ball off to Pitta. (before Pitta even gets into his routes). This is a QB issue (and probably and OL issue) more then a TE issue.

    We have weapons and versatility at TE. We have old guys with experience and young guys with ability We have question marks sure but we have depth and I would still rank our TE corps in the top 10 in the NFL.

    If we are top ten in a position group (and very possibly higher) I not sure that Rd 1 is where you add to that group. Unless your team is stacked and has no other needs. That's not the case with the 2017 Ravens.

    I'm looking at Barnett, Davis, or a trade down. I would not be mad if we picked Howard though. There are maybe a single handful of tight ends that are difference makers in the NFL. Howard would step in day 1 and be 1.
    Calling our te core a top 10 one in the NFL is kinda laughable. It has the potential to be very good, but potential is all it's been. All we had on the field last year was an overrated pass catcher who can't block at all, Pitta. Not a real tight end. All the other guys from our "top 10" position group were either, suspended, hurt, "not strong enough"- our second round pick isn't strong enough in his second year in the league. That says something and is incredibly sad.
    I was excited about our te group last year, then it ended up being one of the very weakest groups on the team and a handicap for the team at that.
    Just thinking about it if we did go Howard, you still don't have to give up on people. Howard is absurd.
    Say with our picks we went, Howard, Pass rusher, corner, lineman....and so, and didn't really add a high pick wr. Then, if Gilmore would get his butt on the field, this "2 te" set sounds great.:
    Wallace and Pitta out wide, with Gilmore and Howard as te's, and Dixon in the backfield (once he gets back). - That would be a dynamic and versatile passing and running set up.
    All in all, it's not about potential, it's about proving it. And our te group was a serious weak spot on this team last year. "top 10 in a position group"??? Really? Cmon man. And please don't try to back that up with Pitta's check down stats. We all know stats don't tell the true story

    I think that Pitta check down stats is a bigger QB issue then a TE issue. Name 10 teams who have a better TE group. I really can NOT. I think I can come up with 6 legitimately.

    Heck... I will even say that I think we at least have the # 1 TE group in our conference.

    I think it legitimately is a top 10 group - I could make an argument for 6 possibly 7 teams having a better TE corps but thats it.

    I just think our TE group is deep with experience, talent, youth and diversity. Were they healthy? No Watson missed the season, Pitta was coming off of two season ending injuries, Maxx was put on IR, Gilmore was also, Boyle was suspended most of the year. That is unlucky (with the exception of Boyle)

    But throughout the NFL many TEs missed many games
    1. Gronk missed half the season as he always does. Martellus Bennett missed a few games and yet most people would agree that was the # 1 TE group in the NFL

    2. Eric Ebron for the Lions has shown to be very talented but has missed significant games in both of his two NFL seasons

    3. Tyler Eifert....same

    4. Jimmy Graham...same

    5. Julius Thomas same (or worse)

    6. Ladarius Green (same or worse)

    7. Antonio Gates and Hunter Henry

    8. Cameron Brate (Same)

    9. Vernon Davis (same)

    10. Jordan Reed

    11. Gary Barnridge

    12. Zach Ertz

    (IDK... I think all of these guys have spent significant time on the injured list. I wouldnt write them off). In fact some like Gates and Gronk, Jimmy Graham and others seem to come back stronger every year).

    Watson missed the season that dont make him horrible. Same as Gilmore or even Maxx. I think injuries are normal at the TE position... now that our group is healthy we are one of the most talented and deepest units in the NFL.

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    in a league with a type cap limit which is always eaten up in large part by QBs - No team can afford to overstock any position. 1.Watson 2. Pitta 3. Gilmore 4. Waller 5. Maxx - 6. Boyle Even if we cut Watson and released Waller or Maxx (which I dounbt) that would still leave us with 3 TEs and I just dont see us drafting a 5th TE in round 1.

    OJ is a great talent but not the right move for us. If Andrew Luck or another top tier QB prospect came out this draft - even if they would be an upgrade we dont go out and get them; We have a franchise QB- Drafting another franchise QB would be a wasted draft pick (Even if they became the starter) then we would have a ton of dead money and we would waste a previous pick.

    Maxx -and Crocket are high draft picks and we cannot afford to over stock one position and leave the cupboards bare in other spots....

    This is what the Browns and other cellar dwellers do.

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    wonder what jamaal charles asking price is. yes he is as brittle as they come but he has skills and if he were to accept a 1 year deal that worked with our cap space and with performance bonuses would it make sense for us being that dixon is out for 4 games and will have to earn himself playing time. taliafero is a ? as well and west is not someone that can carry the load himself. im sure it will also depend on whether we add anyone in the draft

    Agreed...at this point the market seems minimal for JC but there is no denying that the guy is talents and can be the type of home run threat (the type that we are looking for). He is brittle (but so is Pitta and Jimmy). Plus JC would NOT have to carry the load. With West -Dixon and Woodhead.... JC would really only need to be that home run threat for us. He would make our offense more dangerous immediately! I like it!

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      2 hours ago, Bruce_Almty said:

    We play 8 games vs teams Vegas ranks a higher probability of reaching the super bowl than the Ravens. Home vs away record (Flacco struggles) is likely 5-3 & 3-5. Splits with the Steelers and Bengals; Raven team composition at this time tells me the Ravens are an 8-8 team (plus or minus 1). At the moment, the Ravens as a team give no indication of being a 10, 11 or 12 win team. The draft could change that.

    "IF" Browns would take Flacco &our 16th for their 1st&33rd we could FIX defense and sign Kapernick or even Cutler as stopgap REBUILD decent team. Flacco & our 16th,74th for 1st&12th would be DREAM scenario.

    DO you really want to face the Browns 2x with Flacco at QB and Gordon, Coleman and more at WR? They would no longer be just counted as a win for us. Especially if we had Kappernick at QB.

    I get Cutler but he is so undependable that his contribution in 8 games or less would virtually make Mallet our starter.... do you really think we would be better off there?

    I get it... I dont like Joes ridiculous contract but a trade like that would set us back 5 years.

    Teams without franchise QBs just DO NOT win in this league. That is why the Browns are the Browns.

    Now it would be different if we could trade Joe for a Phillip Rivers or Joe for Matt Stafford..... etc. Not saying that they are better then Joe but they are franchise Qbs who we could continue to build around...

    Problem is why would those teams trade those guys to us for Joe... take on Joes contract and still give something else up?????

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    I think 6-3 headed into the break is realistic.... 5-4 is very possible but 4-5 would be unacceptable. IF we go 6-3 before the break... 11-5 is a very realistic expectation. 12-4 would be lofty but possible. 10-6 would be the minimum expectation.

    We should not sleep the Jags (great young defense and a lot of offensive weapons). The Texans will be much improved also. They will have one of the best defenses in the NFL this year and they do have weapons at WR! They will not be an easy out. The Titans are another team that could scare us.... they have a very good OL with a very solid defense and a great RB. The titans will not be an easy out this year. The Dolphins are supposed to be much improved this year also...

    The Lions - Bears and Colts should be wins.
    The Browns are never an easy out for us but need to also be counted as wins.
    That would give us 5 wins just right there

    The formula remains the same as always however. Win the divisional games and home games. If we have the best record in the division vs divisional opponents... and win the home games we are sitting pretty.

    In fact if we won all of our divisional games and home games we would be 11-5.

    If we split with the sqeelers and won the rest of our divisional games but won on the road vs Minn and Jax we would only need to win 3 of the next 5 home games vs (Chi,Miami,Tex, Lions and Colts) to go 10-6

    In other words with
    Browns 2x, Cincy (split) Pitt (Split), wins over Minn, Jax, Chi, Miami, Det, Hou, and Indy) that would leave us at 11 wins

    Additional Win vs the Titans, and could leave us with 12 wins..

    Leaving us with 2 throw away games on the road vs the Raiders and Pack... even a split there would leave us with the top seed. and 13 wins.

    We always find ways to make it interesting and drop games we shouldnt drop (Tenn, Hou, or a Browns, Bengals game)

    SO I am calling our season record. 11-5 or 10-6. 10 -6 would be a little bit disappointing.

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    We need to trim the fat.
    1. Webb is not earning his contract
    2. Elvis has not earned his contract for 2 years
    3. Sharece owes us money
    4. Hurst owes flacco some money
    5. Powers / Arrington/ Elam / have never earned their contract
    6. Zuttah is beyond his ability to play to the level that we are playing him
    7. McClellan is a high paid ST player
    8. Talifero will never see the field again
    (I could even throw Kamar in that list)

    Thats ten players that need trimmed

    Then there are probably a couple that has earned it but we will not be able to retain them
    1. Brandon Williams
    2. Rick Wagner
    I would love to find a way to keep both but I just do not see it. Fortunately we found Pierce and Alex Lewis who could probably step right in

    Then there are a few who are still under friendly contracts who we need to really develop and get more out of or they will be on the top list in a season or two.
    1. KC
    2. Perriman
    3. Maxx
    4. Cannady
    5. CMoore
    6. ZSmith
    7. CDavis
    8. Kafusi (but that may not be fair to list him yet)
    9. Willie Henry
    10. Camp * but he has to stay healthy to have a chance to develop him

    Think of it this way... that is 20 plus players on the team that are not playing up to expectations and two that are that we will probably lose (along with SSS who retired)

    I can add in that Joe is not playing up to his contact and that is 24 roster spots who under performed or who we will need to find replacements for.

    Thats over half of the roster... We have a lot of work to do in the off- season if we really expect to right the ship.

    I still think that Ozzie, Harbs and company are the right people for the job but they have their work cut out for them... believe that!

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    no running game b/c OC/HC abandons it, so what u do is hire another coach to fix it, wow,

    The OC / HC abandoned the running game way too quickly this year but maybe bc they know the personnel that we have and they have little faith in their ability. Thats probably what Harbs has been calling for a RB who can be a game breaker since the season ended. Dixon and West showed good potential as a pass catching / short yardage back but they also seemed to struggle with consistency and vision. I think this had a lot to do with the coaches lack of trust in the run game. I would like to see us add a game breaker at the RB position and get back to our mauling identity.

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      21 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:
      21 hours ago, Doomville said:

    I think if either fournette or cook falls to us, Ravens will sweep him up in a hurry. The o-line wasn't amazing but it still wasn't bad. Also, don't forget that alex lewis missed last 8 or so games due to injury so once he returns, the line should be: Stanley, Lewis, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner (if he resigns). Zuttah should be the one we look to upgrade and the o-line will no longer be a weakness. A top rb will take off a lot of pressure on flacco which will help him a lot. 

    YUP, we need a new Center...  Urschel who has been the backup...  Could he be a replacement?

    I don't think Urschel should even be in discussion since a 4th round rookie basically took his job. I think he is decent depth, but they need better players than Urschel on the line.

    I am with you... I think Urschel makes a solid G and very suitable back up at G... but he has struggled at C and struggles in front of the QB is never good! We need a quality C either via the Draft of FA

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    i like the swap; Roman for Castillo but losing Fraser hurts-

    In fact.... I really dont know how we can retain dean pees with out LF. I think Pees improvement this season was mostly due to the addition of LF.... and even with him with had a collapse in the final quarter and maybe even final half of the year.

    Would love to see us replace Pees (maybe keep the Bills / Ravens swap going and bring Rex back) or even his brother. IDK anyone other then DP... I dont think we can survive another year with him heading our D.

    The D has under performed since he got here and we have not been able to close a single team out over the past 3 seasons.... In fact over the last three years nearly every loss we had saw the defense not be able to close a team out! How long can that continue? SMH

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    I struggle with the comment that we shouldn't expect trades bc we don't look like a super bowl contender. We have not been healthy.

    We have been without SSS, Suggs, Dumervil, Stanley, CJ, Yanda and more.
    When we were healthy we were 3-0

    since the injuries we have been 0-4 but those are some giant injuries. IN fact for the most part those are our top guys.

    Our guys are now expected to be back after the bye... we should be at full strength or close to it and we are only one game out of 1st place in the division.

    The sqeelers are banged up... the Bengals look bad and we can still control our own destiny.

    A win vs Pittsburgh and a healthy unit moving forward could go a long way to righting the ship. A little help (even for depth better then Hurst or help at S ) and we could legitimately make a run.

    Once you get into the playoffs... its all about who is peaking at that time!
    Yea... I have an issue with that statement.

    what if we win the next two games coming out of our BYE week? That leaves us 5-4 and in first place (at least by way of head to head tie breaker) and we will be 3-0 in conference. The leaves us healthy and in a pretty good place

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      13 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

    Kamar is the # 4 and possibly the # 5 WR in our lineup and with Campanaro ready to come back- the best thing that Kamar can do for us is provide trat bait to help us in an area of need. 1. SSS 2. Wallace 3. Perriman 4. CMoore and now with Camp ready to return that moves Kamar well down the lineup and that is not even considering that Waller can play both WR and TE. I know they mentioned keeping Kamar incase SSS retires next season but why cant we take another WR in the middle of the draft to replace him (it would be cheaper and he would have a better chance then being our #4 or $ 5 WR).

    I really don't think too many teams are very interested in KAMAR...our WR corps is disappointing so far and Kamar is 4th or 5th in BMORE... that don't have me believing that teams are beating down our door trying to get him...

    but if a team like the Bills or Jets or Chargers think they can help them make a run... I say take him and let us get something we can use for him bc being 5th in the line up or worse... we are not going to be much out of him with him here?

    You're joking right? Aikmen has proven to be better than everyone I highlighted.  Right now, Aiken is the 3rd best WR we have behind SSS and Wallace. 

    I dont think that was a joke... You can think that Kamar has out played all of them but Perriman is a high draft pick and will be given every chance to succeed (and yes even over Kamar)

    C Moore...is also a high draft pick who will play to Joe's strength... allowing us to stretch the field.

    Camp.... is a better athlete and a mismatch in the slot that Kamar cant be. While I have my doubts about Campanaro's ability to stay healthy in this league... I think he brings something to the table that Kamar cannot.

    I think Waller is even more of a mismatch... While I dont know why he is in the conversation bc he is playing TE>.... I do think Waller can be a giant mismatch....

    But I get the point... the point being that with Moore and Perriman being a high investment... Wallace and SSS being our top WRs and Camp and Waller being the players we are looking to for mismatches moving forward...

    I am not sure where that leaves Kamar in our offense???????? Which is evidenced by his drastic dropped in numbers this year... suggesting the Ravens see it the same way!

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      12 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

    We need to let these young players lose a little more. That is something that Harbs never does but it is time to let the likes of:

    1. Tavon
    2. Dixon
    3. Judon
    4. ZSmith
    5. KC
    6. ALewis
    7. Stanley (although that was the play with those two all along)
    8. Waller
    9. Campanaro
    10. CMoore
    11. Perriman
    12. Huff

    There is a dozen players that we need to get more involved. Stanley -Lewis and Tavon have already been showing that they can help this team.

    C Moore and Campanaro can add to the weapons that we are missing on offense but they can only do that if they are on the field and getting reps.

    Perriman needs be force fed a little. As does Dixon

    Waller is a mismatch and needs to be utilized. I know that means that Joes friend Pitta may get less reps but Waller is the type of athlete that this offense is missing.

    Judon and ZSmith are showing that they can play. that is not saying that they should surpass Suggs or Dum but they should be getting a healthy rotation. KC should also be working in that rotation. He can play all 4 LB positions and ST... he is athletic and has a high motor and we could take advantage of that in situations all while letting him get his feet wet and developing.

    Finally... Huff will be an upgrade over Webb and much cheaper moving forward. He is more athletic and makes us more versatile in our defensive backfield.

    That is a dozen players (nearly a quarter of our line up) that we need to get more out of and who could add some spark for us on both sides of the ball..

    I hope to see a lot more of them over the second half of the season.

    Huff? An upgrade? Is he still even in da league? Say what....

    LOL... it is Marqueston Huff.... out of Wyoming not Mike Huff from the Raiders.... Different Huff and yes he is very athletic and good speed.... I think he can easily play S as well as Webb and believe he can even be an upgrade!

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    I hope he is healthy and ready to go but i think it is time to acknowledge that our issues at S are more systemic then bad luck Since Dean Pees has come to BMORE finding a good S has been tougher then finding a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

    Ed Reed has his struggles under Pees and complained about it and everyone suggested that Ed was just getting too old... SMH

    We had Pollard... the argument was that he just could cover the pass... but played well in Tennessee after he left

    We had Ihedigbo.... and he couldnt cut it but played well in Detroit after he left.

    We had Darian Stewart.... who looked like the worst S in the league while he was here... we ran him out and Stewart has been a big part of the Denver Defense who just won the super bowl and still looks great.

    We had Will Hill who before he cam to BMORE he looked like one of the top S in the NFL.... he came here and while he showed flashes ... his time here was marked by utter inconsistency.

    We had Huff who was a complete failure.

    We drafted Elam in the first round ... who was supposed to be a cant miss draft pick... he looked okay as a rookie but regressed ever since.

    We drafted T Brooks... who simply couldnt cut it here... but has since left and is spending time with the Eagles...

    We had Branden Trawick... who looked horrible here and but is now with the Raiders and is contributing.

    We traded for Kendrick Lewis who looked great in Houston before coming here and since coming here he has been horrible and probably played his last game with the Ravens.

    We brought Eric Weddle in and he has played great for us but he is clearly a super talented player and the exception ( and i really wonder how much Leslie Frasier has impacted his success here).

    Players play great before coming here. Get here and Suck.... Players suck here... leave and play well. We draft Safeties and they cant cut it (no matter if they are first rounders, 2 rounders or lower)...

    We are having so much bad luck at that position and so many struggles and the misfortune of seeing players play the same position at a much higher level for other teams..... to the point that We had to acknowledge that this appears to be more systemic then bad luck.

    It is time for Pees to begin to answer for the fact that Safeties cannot be successful in his system and why this has a lot to do with the fact that we cannot close a team out!
    This is no longer bad luck and way beyond coincidence!

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      2 hours ago, thecommish said:

    Flacco is making like $20 million per / and playing like $2million per
    Jimmy Smith is getting just over $10 million per- he is probably worth every penny
    Dennis Pitta is getting just over $6.5 million per- earning about $1million maybe
    Yanda is getting nearly $8 million- need him out there
    Weddle is getting just over $6million (worth every penny)
    Mike Wallace getting nearly $6 million per (he is playing welll but we need more)
    Suggs and Dum getting about $5 million per (need them out there)\\\
    Stanley getting just over $5million per (need him out there)
    Tucker $4.2 million (worth double)

    that is our top ten
    40% not out there...(stanley,suggs,dum,and yanda)hardto win like that
    30% under performing / by pay (joe,wallace,& pitta)
    pitta and wallace not playing bad but need to be more consistent
    that is 70% of our top 10...either not playing or needing to do more

    ANY QUESTIONS????

    Jimmy Smith is not worth 10mil ! The second corner can be beat all day and we just caught a break from seeing the back of Jimmy's jersey.

    I think he is but you missed the point. The point is that at least 70% of the top ten pain players on the team is either not performing or under performing. That makes it hard to win games in this league what that is the case. Lets say you are right then it is 80% - that explains a lot

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    Flacco is making like $20 million per / and playing like $2million per
    Jimmy Smith is getting just over $10 million per- he is probably worth every penny
    Dennis Pitta is getting just over $6.5 million per- earning about $1million maybe
    Yanda is getting nearly $8 million- need him out there
    Weddle is getting just over $6million (worth every penny)
    Mike Wallace getting nearly $6 million per (he is playing welll but we need more)
    Suggs and Dum getting about $5 million per (need them out there)\\\
    Stanley getting just over $5million per (need him out there)
    Tucker $4.2 million (worth double)

    that is our top ten
    40% not out there...(stanley,suggs,dum,and yanda)hardto win like that
    30% under performing / by pay (joe,wallace,& pitta)
    pitta and wallace not playing bad but need to be more consistent
    that is 70% of our top 10...either not playing or needing to do more

    ANY QUESTIONS????

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    Yes the Ravens are playing awful football right now, but so are the Panthers, Saints, Cardinals & Jags (despite having drafted franchise saviors Jalen Ramsey AND Myles Jack...lol). But we are still in this.

    You can cry, whine and pine to fire everyone and take your ball and go home because things aren't going your way. But we are going to stay and fight til the end and support our team all the way. We are 1 game back from the division lead - 1 GAME! I don't care who's on the schedule or how good you think they are, anything can happen.

    A team a few hours north in Ohio likes to fire everyone, make changes at QB, draft "Alpha Dogs", etc - maybe they are more your style (I hear housing is cheap and so are tickets).

    Me? I'm gonna Ride or Die! Ride or Die! Go Ravens!

    put the pom poms down. No one is saying they are not Ravens fans to the end. A lot of people are here among Ravens family expressing frustration and a desire to get things on the right track. There is obviously a need for some change and they are calling for it. (They are fans enough that they dont want to see their team spiraling out of control).

    It is those fans in Cleveland that are happy with the team no matter if they are in the basement of not. They dont demand more out of the organization they love and as a result they get a subpar product on the field every season. Here in BMORE we expect to be winners and when we are not winning we demand something be done.

    Sorry we dont have a loser mentality that Cleveland has. We want better for our city, our team and our community... and we expect better and when it is not better- we have the right to demand more (not accept being losers)

    Ride / im with you but dont just ride blindly and cheer all along. Bleed purple but use your brain in the process to demand more out of our team. Im gonna bleed purple and ride with you but I am not going to shake my pom poms and pretend like some change is not necessary ( thats how the browns got to where they are)!

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      2 hours ago, thecommish said:

    the most disappointing thing is that we drafted for pass rush... we passed on Hargraves and Ramsey and others to boost our Pass rush and we have zero pass rush. In fact KC looks like the next Arthur Brown!

    How can you say he looks like Arthur Brown, he never made it on the field? With both Suggs and Dummervil out that is not a fair comparison and he hasn't finished season one yet.

    I said... looks like Arthur Brown bc we have no place or plan to use him. with both Suggs and Dum out... we can not utilize a guy who was drafted for pass rush. I said he looks like Arthur Brown bc he is somebody we are hoping will develop. Not looking to what he has to offer and how he can help this team but looking to what we hope he develops into. That is what Arthur Brown was....someone who couldn't be trusted to contribute but someone who we hoped would develop into something (he never did)

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