Clmraven

What does martavis Bryant have to do with anything? Thought we were talking about Ravens wide receivers? You're gonna compare the two based on one lucky catch?

Aiken isn't a fourth he's a solid #3 and a decent #2 in a pinch. I mean come on aiken had a better statistical season than Boldin ever had here and everyone still thinks letting Boldin go was a bad idea, some people were still clamoring for marlon brown to see the field after his decent rookie season but he's proven to be a product of volume and has shown absolutely nothing since, Aiken is no scrub.

Well we at least have some future at wide out with Perriman and Aiken, but CB we have pretty much Jimmy and that's about it, we'll see if Shareece Wright can continue playing decent but behind them we have pretty much nothing even if we're good at CB for 2016 we have literally no future at corner right now.

Am I crazy to think that Torrey smith could be a cap casualty? I mean he only had like 600 yards this season, has a new head coach coming in, looks like they could be entering a rebuilding process, and they could save 6 mil in 2016 if they cut him post June 1. Wouldn't mind him coming back to Baltimore as long as it's on the cheaper side.

Thats a tough one, I'd probably have to go back and dig to really find some instances on that, the first that comes to mind is Jabaal Sheard IIRC one of his concerns was a slow first step coming out of college.

Yeah his first step is kinda inconsistent, but not terrible I think it's something that could be worked on once he gets to the NFL.

I like Shaq a lot too, I think he looks more like Tamba Hali than Upshaw. I don't really see the upshaw comparison Lawson seems to be way more athletic has more burst and better pass rush moves than upshaw.

I'm warming up on Treadwell at 6 depending on who's left at that point, my biggest question with Treadwell and it might sound weird but how's his personality? I know it sounds crazy but it seems like Joe always had the best connections with the guys that had that "receiver attitude" I mean the instant chemistry with SSS, Derrick mason and Pitta always had that outgoing type of receiver personality and Joe always did well with them, even Boldin while he was more quiet to the media was said to be a really strong locker room voice, joe never really had great chemistry with Torrey it seemed who never really had that attitude, I've always thought Joe would be really good with guys like OBJ and B Marshall or even Dez Bryant, so if Treadwell has that big personality I'd consider that a plus.

It was announced a few days ago he changed his mind, hes declaring.

I can understand the hesitation on VH3 I've heard his bowl game was bad(I've yet see the tape) but from what I understand that was the first touchdown he gave up all year, he's still an elite prospect IMO.

I was mostly referring to the people who use continuity as the reason Pees wasn't fired and them stating that firing Coordinators every year will make you end up like the Browns or the Bucs but I just don't buy it. If someone generally under performs for 3 or 4 years then maybe it's time for something new, I mean pees has by no means been awful but we could do waaaaay better IMO.

Am I the only one who doesn't understand the whole continuity thing? I mean yeah it's great to have the same coordinators 3+ years but if they last that long chances are they aren't doing a great job, I hear everyone preaching continuity but that's only part of what were built on, we were built on the continuity of similar coaches not the same guy for 4 years, it may suck to lose a OC or DC every year but that means we're doing something right. We have a "next man up" mentality not just for players but for coaches too, so when we get complacent with pees and start losing our quality position coaches then we're screwed when pees actually does leave.

If Ozzie said he wants to add multiple Wide outs, in Ozzie talk that probably means we won't add any lol. I mean everyone on the entire team was so insistent the whole offseason that receiver wasn't a huge need last year then we get Perriman and Waller.

Well this is sad, should've dropped pees just to hold on to Monachino.

I like Buckner in the top 4 only thing I'd really change is Make VH3 above Ramsey, because unless we see him as a corner only I don't think he deserves top 5 consideration.

I like the idea, but the league would have to implement some kind of developmental squad. Also it should be limited to guys who have tremendous talent coming out of highschool so pretty much 5 star recruits only should be able to come out early IMO.

I may be in the minority but I think this is a good move by the Bucs in the long run, Lovie seems like the kinda coach that shoved his scheme down the teams throat getting rid of his best player (revis) and signing Horrible free agents and then cutting a year later, not to mention bringing a bunch of sub par players in from Chicago that were part of the reason he got fired there.

Would love Zeke in the second, it would really help flacco to have a solid RB nothing against Buck Allen hes an awesome receiver but I think Zeke would be an upgrade as a runner.

Maybe this is the announcement that dean pees has been relieved of his duties, a man can dream right?

I like Elliott a lot, but at 6? I don't know, he's not an elite runner like Gurley IMO but he's a complete back sorta like Leveon Bell and could be a great fit in trestmans offense.

Right now i still have Bosa Tunsil Vh3 maybe Stanley, and while not as much of a need as WR I still have guys like Buckner and Ashawn Robinson rated higher based on talent rather than need.

Not sure how Treadwell has picked up so much steam I like him but I'm still not sold on him at #6 yet, I think he could be a #1 guy but there's a few issues I see, for one looking at some of the past top 10 wide receivers I'm not sure he stacks up, AJ Green was really polished Julio was rather raw but an athletic freak Amari Cooper was absolutely Squeaky Clean. I'd be more comfortable looking for a trade back and taking a chance on him being there in the 10-12 area.

<<<<<< I like it but I think you missed a pretty talented guy out of Oregon.

I like Lawson quite a but but wouldn't touch him anywhere near the first round let alone the top ten, he's missed a lot of games and only has 1 sack this year, he looks pretty darn good but I wouldn't take the risk unless he was there in the 3rd.

Kinda surprised it took this long for one of these threads to pop up but better late than never, Anyway need some input on flex this week it's between Allen Robinson and devante Adams in a 1 point per reception league