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Did we just waste a pick on that Tray Walker kid? Is he really not good enough to be out there right now!?

Man it was just last week my comment of Joe is an average QB playing poorly and part of the problem that went -10 on here... And also that we don't need to pay Tucker 4M a year... 1 week later starting to sound a little more realistic? Joe's got some serious problems and 3 weeks in a row now Tucker has missed a kick that would have allowed us to kick a FG to tie or go ahead at the end of the game. Facts are facts and that INT was just unforgivable. Lack or WRs didn't make those 2 INTs happen... neither did poor line play... it's our 120M QB making incredibly bad reads and anticipation throws.

Anyone realize Tucker's missed kicks in 3 straight games that made a FG not enough at the end? I think Wright is still playing for SF also.

That arm punt doe...

This time, all three phases of the game failed. The offense with 2 drops on what should have been TD catches. Defense giving up too many big plays(a Fullback for crying out loud!!!), and Tucker with his missed FG that again showed up to hurt us at the end. Though I blame the field for Tucker's miss more than I do Tucker. 

 

Again, another drive where had them stopped and a flag extended the drive. I just don't get it. It's evident the talent is lacking at WR outside of Steve Smith. Gilmore just needs the ball more, he's a play maker when thrown to. The talent on defense is there, that's the sad part of all this. Our defense giving up these leads isn't because we have nobody on defense, just we have the worst defensive coordinator in the NFL. Pees doesn't know what he is doing, and why he has been here for long, let alone survived this long in the NFL is beyond me. 

 

I want to see the headline, "Ravens Fire Defensive Coordinator Dean Pees" tomorrow morning. 

You list the offense with drops but don't mention the turnovers? Interesting.

Anyone else watch the empty podium waiting, thinking... "somebodies gotta answer for this [profanity deleted]"

I have to say coming on here and complaining to you guys in therapeutic...

Would be nice to still have TOs... gotta stop challenging a play cuz we don't like it...

Flacco is still super clutch.

Except for that whole worst QBR in the 4th QTR in the league thing... but yeah.

They should play all their defensive personell in 10 yards and dare him to throw an accurate pass of more than 10 yds.

So what will be the postgame comments?

 

"We stil have a chance if we get it together"

"We just gotta finish games"

"I have faith in the confidence of these guys"

"We have the talent, just gotta play better"

Have to mention situational awareness... I think it's his buzzword...

Great 1st game for Wright... prb tore his acl when he fell...

Graham wanted to leave, they were never going to keep him. And Ihedigbo wasn't cut, he was a FA.

 

It's unrealistic to keep everyone...but Boldin definitely shouldn't have been traded.

I'd take Josh Wilson and Darian Stewart too...

How did  Boldin outrun Jimmy Smith...?

No PI

SO 1 TD > 2 INT? 120M doesn't go as far as it used to.

If Kendrick is out for the season, Move Hill back to FS and sign Pollard for SS with the new cap space we have from the Yanda and Zuttah deals. Its not like the secondary can get any worse

Never bring Pollard back he's not a Harbaugh type.

Best player on the team!

Flacco doesn't look vocal but you don't have to look vocal to be vocal. It is more of a way you carry yourself through practice. He is a super bowl MVP that has played well with nothing. Also there is Steve Smith Sr. who is both vocal in his actions and actually being vocal. The offense is scoring enough to win games the offense is not the problem. Again how many leads in all the games we have played have we lost in the last 2 minutes? There was probably 3 alone in the Cincinnati game. In the 5 games we have played I wouldn't be surprised if we lost the lead in the last two minutes at least 6 or 7 times. 

Pretty sure in 3 of those games the offense had a chance to win on the last possession too... they don't get absolved when they don't produce do they?

Even with all of the injuries to our skill positions (RB, WR, TE), the Ravens are averaging almost 25 points per game. That's only 1 point less than last year and and on the higher end compared to other seasons. Starting with the play-off game last year in New England, the defense can't close out games, period. Injuries are a major factor (Suggs especially) but also a lack of leadership on defense in the locker room. A player needs to step up and be the vocal guy that holds guys accountable for their misplays. Sounds like Harbaugh and the staff see that too and hopefully Will Hill will step up (see what i did there  ) and be that guy.

Curious... who would you say is the vocal leader on offense?

Breakdowns in a few key situations... understatement maybe...

Well, if there's a few things we know for sure...

 

1. Emotional leadership at the QB position is incredibly overrated and frankly isn't even needed. No shortage of unbelievably great QB leaders in this league who don't show the emotion that only fans care about.

 

2. Just so you are aware, the formula isn't 80% production for 50% price... its 80% production for 20% of the price. If you paid 50% of the price, you'd be broke and wouldn't be able to afford the good players or the average players.

 

Plus 80% production from a great player wouldn't make you average to begin with...

 

3. For certain, this fanbase isn't realistic when it comes to the whole "rebuilding" philosophy. While I don't agree with about half of your assessment of need areas, IF we were to agree that all the needs you addressed are required, you're probably looking forward to at least 2-3 MORE years of below average performance, and that puts Joe 3-4 years away from the decline/retirement stage, in which case you have maybe a 3 year window to win another title, assuming everything goes exactly how you want it do (which of course it never does). 

 

Then, once Joe's done, you might as well blow the whole team up again, because without a QB you got nothing and the level of QBs coming out of college these days is downright awful.

 

So basically, be the Cleveland Browns for the next decade is what I'm hearing.

 

Something tells me the fanbase wouldn't exactly react well to that. You're overreacting.

Curious the half you don't agree with...

so what do you suggest we do? Get rid of him? Give him a pay cut? Just curious bc many ppl love to point out problems but rarely have viable solutions. And 120m isn't that much anymore. Look at the contracts that other quarterbacks are getting nowadays. I'd much rather have flacco for what we're paying than Ryan tannehill

He's by far the best QB we've had since I've pulled for the Ravens. I wish he'd have better field vision and make better protection adjustments against obvious blitzes. His arm strength is great and he's pretty athletic. Joe seems to struggle with anticipation throws. If Kubiak was still here I think we'd be doing much better. He moved the pocket a lot and made the reads quicker and more simplified. Of course he'll be taking a pay cut after this year. Joes just a middle of the pack QB and without a stacked team around him we will continue to be sub 500. Looking around the league right now I'd say he's about the 15th best QB. I just hate hearing how everyone is letting him down when he's playing crappy just like everyone else - for the most part. We keep letting FA go and get those comp picks but outside of Davis, Williams and Mosely... the last 3 or 4 drafts are contributing 0 right now. We keep bringing in these average guys and talking them up like they're good enough to take the places of all-pro's and legends. I read once the Ravens have this formula - if they can get 80% of the perfonance out of a player for half the price then it's a good swap. If you keep following that philosophy eventually you'll end up with average talent everywhere. But to be honest I think where were lacking the most is in emotional leaders. It's easy to dismiss the importance of it with all the analytics these days but as anyone can tell you who's played organized sports having an emotional leader that can also bring it on the field is huge to establishing an identity. That's where I feel Joe needs to step up the most. He looks and acts so indifferent or laissez-faire evertime you see him. It's about time to blow it up and start over. We need to rehaul the secondary... get some mean, fast, ugly, speed rushers. The defensive line will be fine, our guards are top notch. Need more consistent tackles. Obviously a true number one WR... who knows if Perriman will ever stay healthy... and for the love of god quit bringing in and drafting injury prone players... I can't imagine after this year we'll still be so willing to bring in these projects. I'm not sure about the RB position TBH... Tailaferro can't stay on the filed... we'll see about Buck Allen soon enough. Forsett maybe has a couple of years left and I really like his running style. I keep getting crucified for not being blindly optimisitc on here but man I have to make sense to someone.

What!? Joe Flacco not clutch... get out of here... people around here aren't going to like hearing that!

he may not be lighting the nfl on fire so far but he has put us in the position to win EVERY game so far. Week 1 there were 2 dropped potential game winning touchdowns and every other game he gave us the lead late in the 4th only for the defense to blow it. All with barely any weapons. I admit he could be playing better but he's definitely not the problem

Once again... never said he's the problem... he's part of it. 120M should buy more than average and inconsistent. I would say the stats don't lie but as you guys keep pointing out... some how they don't matter. 120M QB worst 4th qtr QBR doesn't go together. The bums making league min are playing like... bums making league min... no suprise there.