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Perriman's floor is that of a larger, faster, more aggressive Torrey Smith. His ceiling could be one of the most dangerous deep threats in the NFL and the kind of guy you always double cover.

For tight end I'd want Heuerman or Nick Boyle in the midrounds. Possibly Kroft if Ozzie and company thinks he can stay healthy.

http://boards.bengals.com/showthread.php?t=132638&page=25

 

For what it's worth, the Bengals fans don't seem too excited at the prospect of Joe having another weapon. And they're in meltdown over taking Ogbuehi at 21.

Can't say I blame them with Humphries still on the board. Him being smaller and quicker than most tackles could have made him perfect for dealing with edge rushers in 3-4 defenses, and the rest of their division runs a 3-4.

whelp we didnt take devin smith (for a reason), this is a breshard perriman tread. so keep your waahtitube away from this thread.

 

Welcome to Bmore Perriman!

Waahtitude? Did you not see the part where I said I don't dislike this pick and said now was a good time for a project receiver due to having SSS on the team? I'm not whining. I'm glad we gave the offense a weapon with high potential.

Got beat to the punch on creating the thread, it seems.

Welp, might as well get the thread started for this. Personally, I would have taken Devin Smith, but I don't hate this pick. If there was ever a time for the Ravens to take a project receiver it's now. We have SSS for a couple years to mentor him, and a new WR's coach who seemed to do a good job with Brown, Aiken, and Camp.

I'd take Perriman as a deep threat over Torrey Smith. He would have at least fought for the ball in that Patriots' game.

I'm in.

At this point, I'm thinking the best option might be to give Gilmore the shot at being the starting tight end during the season and Supernaw and Juice as the backups. I definitely don't want the Ravens to reach for TE in a weak class just for the sake of getting one, and the veteran tightends don't seem worth giving up a comp pick for.

Yeah, I like him a lot as a player - and especially as a blocker. But with how much our offence relies on its TEs his sample size as a receiver is a little small for me to be confident in relying on him for the season. Not saying he won't improve, but I'd definitely like to see us bring in another TE.

The Ravens offense might not be as tight end reliant under Trestman as it was under Kubiak. They could be using three receiver sets a lot more often, and using running backs more in the passing game.

you are trying waayyyy too hard, man lol. theres much more talent in the draft than free agency at TE. all 10 of these guys can come in and produce year one for us. take it up with nfl writers if you still think there is weak talent at TE.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000479892/article/2015-nfl-draft-lance-zierleins-top-10-tight-ends

Williams is slow and overrated. He'd be barely worth a second round pick. Walford has issues with concentration drops and isn't that athletic. Funchess has bad hands. Anderson is very raw and absolutely can not be a guy to count on right away. O'Leary is basically the same as Juice, so drafting him would be pointless. Kroft has trouble staying healthy. Koyack and Telfer are the same as Gilmore, and we'd be better off just letting Gilmore be the full time starter instead of getting a tight end like him in the draft. Pruitt is reliable but not that athletic. Heuerman is really the only one of the group that you could plug in right away to take Pitta's spot.

During the first four rounds of the draft, the WR talent will be better than the tight end talent, and it's not even close.

I wonder if there will be a thread like this on Dean Peas ?

I doubt it. Defense will continue being above average with him, and not that many were outright wanting him fire. Some (myself included) think we could do better, but most don't think he's actually bad. The only way an apology thread with him pops up is if the Ravens post back to back shutouts and everyone is like, "Okay, so it turns out he's actually amazing."

I think the main issue was that Castillo and Caldwell simply weren't on the same page. Kubiak and Castillo though both had the same idea of how to use the ZBS.

Fans always want number one receiver but it's not holding the team back from making the playoffs or even winning a super bowl. It be nice  to have elite talent receiver but at the end of the day can't really doubt Ozzie formula.

To be fair, the Ravens had Boldin when they won the Super Bowl. That's a top ten receiver right there, and a guy who can dominate games when you play to his strengths.

Can someone tell me what Ozzie saw in this guy? Seriously he has been average at best throughout his career

I guess he was cheap more than anything else?

Average but reliable is an improvement over what we have: a guy coming off an ACL tear, a guy with a history of off the field issues, and a guy who's on the road to being a bust. Also, he's pretty good at tackling, something our secondary has had an issue with.

I have mixed feelings on this one. I need to see the contract details. How much did we give him and what's the guaranteed? First we don't give Will Hill a high tender and now we uncharacteristically sign a free agent to a long term deal, a player who wasn't cut. This isn't a typical Ravens signing.

It makes me wonder our future plans for guys like Hill, Brooks and Elam. Not that I mind us signing a safety. It was our biggest weakness.

I think Ozzie likely believes at least one of those three (Brooks, Elam, and Hill) can be a long term, viable starter for the Ravens. He's simply not willing to roll the dice on two of them sticking around for the long term and doesn't think the Ravens are in a good position to get one of the few really good safeties in the draft. With Lewis, the odds of the Ravens having a good pair of safeties the next few seasons is greatly improved.

I am happy with the pick up of Kendrick Lewis. He played pretty well last season

Yep. If nothing else, he'll give us a great tackler in the backfield besides just Hill. Also, former Texans usually seem to play well for the Ravens.

Will hill is our starting fs no hole at all no need for a fs

Hill seems to play better in the box than covering people deep. But either way, the Ravens' starting safeties next season would be Hill at FS and Elam at SS, with Levine and Miles backing them up. That's... not very comforting. I really want Brooks to come back better than ever, but I don't want the Ravens' completely depending on that, or completely depending on Elam suddenly playing like a first rounder.

You gotta think he would have a better shot at being a number 1 TE on the Ravens squad.

That's true, but the Pats use multiple tight ends, and in their offense he still might get more yards as the backup to Gronk than he would as the Ravens starter.

I'm concerned that we didn't extend Yanda over restructuring Suggs. That's something that's been on my mind since it happened. I'm concerned that we're preparing to let go of Yanda, and that's going to kill me. He's one of my favorite Ravens. It would be worse to lose him than any other player we've lost in years. I'm expecting this year to be his last, but I'm hoping it's not

I really hope the Ravens get a deal done with Yanda, but Ozzie might be thinking long term and might be thinking that it could be hard to keep both Yanda and KO. Both will command a lot of money down the road. If a deal isn't done, I wouldn't be shocked to see Yanda traded next year like Ngata was this year. Also, they Ravens could go after a guard in the middle rounds of a draft so so that they're ready to part ways with Yanda when the time comes.

That's true ... but the flip side is baseball where lower level teams can't form an identity because they can't keep ANY of their notable players. They are nothing more than AAAA franchises. The only teams that have an identity are ones that gobble up talent and can afford to keep anyone they want. 

 

Also, in football, teams stealing away other team's talent are often overpaying and they will ultimately pay the price for that and their teams performance will suffer. In baseball, big money teams can make colossal contract mistakes and weather the storm, usually with only minimal short term impact. 

 

At least in the NFL, we can designate a few franchise players that will be Ravens for their entire career (or in cases like Heap and Reed, darn close to it). Given the choice between the 2, I'll take the salary cap model over the big market dominance model. 

Agreed. I love that the NFL has a cap system, unlike baseball. I think the closest the NFL has had of a team trying to buy a championship is the Redskins, who are notorious for overpaying free agents. Haynesworth was probably the biggest example of that. And well, that strategy was an utter failure.

I think the Ravens will likely sign two or three d-lineman due to it being unclear how Urban will turn out, negotiating with Ngata, and releasing Canty. Lawrence Guy can probably be resigned, and he played well enough when put into games. Pat Sims seems like a good choice to take Canty's spot.

There's a free agent d-lineman from the Lions named CJ Mosley. Come on, let's get two CJ Mosleys on the team.

If nothing else, I think Hartline could be a solid #2 for the Ravens and a work horse receiver. Having him would mean depending on SSS a bit less.

So, Reggie Bush got cut by the Lions as a cap saving move. He's a bit past his prime, but he does have good vision and fits with what Trestman wants in a running back. If the Ravens don't resign Forsett, Bush could be a decent plan B that won't cost more than the contract being offered Forsett. Bush might even cost less if other teams aren't interested in him.

Well here he would be blocking more then being a receiver though.

 

we aren't a pass happy team and I doubt we will ever become 1.

I doubt he would mainly be blocking here. The Ravens certainly haven't keep Pitta and Owen Daniels around for their blocking ability.