Going back to the issue of taking rookies over proven players for a second, there is one other rookie I could fully support taking over veterans; if for no other reason than it's at a position where players usually get worn down pretty quickly.
I think at this point we would look to replace them anyway.
Yeah. If we don't hear a peep out of them by their third skip, we should just give the team to someone else.
Guys, is there any reason to keep this debate going? No since in dominating the discussion thread with this.
I voted to be more forgiving, but I'd say only if they still make their pick before they're up again. If we haven't heard a peep out of them for going on two rounds, then skip 'em or shorten their time.
I was thinking of a few different players with my pick, but the free safety position is very thin, and Rashad Johnson is a safety that just seems to get better every season.
With the 276th pick, The Homers select:

Rashad Johnson, Free Safety
Urschel pick is definitely based on potential, but I think it could pay off for him. Urschel did great when he filled in at guard during the season. He was the starting guard in the playoffs against the Steelers and Patriots, and did very well. I think he actually would be the starting guard for a lot of teams in the NFL. It's just that he's on the team with KO and Yanda ahead of him.
On the argument about secondary versus pass rush, I wouldn't recommend using Seattle as an example to justify only one of the two. With the Legion of Boom behind Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril, they've had top tier units in coverage and pass rushing.
The Legion of Boom and the 2000 Ravens are probably the best examples of what happens when you combine a great pass rush with a great secondary.
What debate? The secondary has to rely on the d-line to wreak havoc in order to be effective. That's what the Seahawks did to the broncos 2 years ago
But the Seahawks had the best secondary in the league. Because guys like Sherman could jam receivers and stay right on their hip, it made it impossible to get rid of the ball early.
lol no our secondary was in excusable horrid. Yet we were still a top scoring defense
And that top scoring defense couldn't protect two 14 point leads when it mattered most.
Even with a god-tier front seven, I don't want to test a horrible secondary against someone like Brady or Rodgers in the playoffs.
i think he front seven definitely should be a priority over the secondary, I don't care how good your secondary is, it won't make up for a god awful front seven, however an elite front seven can carry a horrible secondary.
But I do think the line sets the tone for how the lb corps performs, the best lbs in the league can be made a non factor if the dt's up front are getting washed out
We definitely got the same ideas here though lol, not trying to argue just elaborating
I'm not so sure of that. Look at the Ravens last season. Two of the absolute best pass rushers in the NFL, great core of young linemen, Mosely's breakout rookie season, but yet the defense still got torched at times because of the horrible secondary. Tom Brady flat about abused the Ravens' defense.
Bulaga was one of the right tackles I wanted. Good pick. Zuttah is a solid pick too. Not the best, but he is serviceable and seems to have good awareness.
I'm glad I got my center early. Some of the other positions are still full of talent, but good luck finding a good center at this point. If you got top end guards, you might be able to mask a weak center though.
Heh, I swear my picks get negged nearly as much as JoeyFlex's does. Actually, the last picks in the draft seem unpopular.
When it comes to Mebane, I'll quote Richard Sherman: "He's an incredibly technical player in his movements and everything he does. He's rarely out of position and he's rarely out of the play. You rarely see a defensive tackle running making tackles on the sideline, or [making] tackles on screen plays. He does all that. But once again, he's overlooked because I guess he's not a big sack-total guy. He's just a guy that does his job incredibly well week in and week out."
He's one of the most underrated linemen in the league, and I love how quick he is off the snap.. Him and Williams will give me a pair of athletic, high motor maulers in the middle.
With the 238th pick in the draft, The Homers select:

Brandon Mebane, DT
Thankfully the guy I want to pick is at a position that I know Truth won't be selecting from.
Assuming you're still around, you're up.
He went offline about a half hour before City made his pick. I think Truth is gone for the night.
Verner was on my board too. Good pick.
I think I found pretty good value in Bushrod this late. He's not young, but he's not too old either, he's been a solid starter at LT for awhile. Take from his profile on the Bear's site:
PRO CAREER: Two-time Pro Bowler (2011-12) has started 78-of-82 games played in seven seasons at left tackle for New Orleans (2007-12) and Chicago (2013)... Since becoming a starter in 2009, his teams have ranked in the top five in NFL for for fewest sacks allowed each season.
With the 211th pick, The Homers select:

Jermon Bushrod, LT
I think worries about Fitzgerald's age are a bit overblown. He's still probably got a good four years left in him, if you give him a QB that can actually get the ball to him.
Jernigan is a good pick. He's young, aggressive, good pass rusher, and he's been training hard during the offseason. I was considering taking him with my next pick.
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I was reworking my list of OLBs last night and thought about Hali, but figured he must have been picked by now.