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Agreed. I see the Bengals going for Barnett instead since they really need someone that can get pressure opposite of Dunlap. I think Foster either goes to the Chargers, Saints, or Cardinals.

Move up. Not get a 3rd rounder. Like, Maxx or Gilmore and our 3rd round pick (original or Eagles) for someone else's third round pick. Maybe throw in our 6th round pick to help sweeten the deal.

I would happily trade any TE on the team to move up in the third for someone like Ryan Anderson, Derek Rivers, or Carlos Watkins.

The Ravens will trade up in round 3 to grab a player that they really like. Carlos Watkins will turn out to be one of the top three defensive tackles in this draft. The Ravens will draft a WR in the first round.

While these games are notorious for teams reaching and doing dumb things, in a way I kinda like that about them. It puts you in odd situations, which in a way is realistic, and something Ozzie would have to deal with. Like in this case, I was left in a position where OJ Howard was simply the best player available. In real life though, I'd probably use him as trade bait to move back. 16: R1P16 TE O.J. HOWARD ALABAMA 47: R2P15 EDGE CARL LAWSON AUBURN 74: R3P10 C PAT ELFLEIN OHIO STATE 78: R3P14 EDGE DEREK RIVERS YOUNGSTOWN STATE 122: R4P15 WR CHAD HANSEN CALIFORNIA 159: R5P15 CB CORN ELDER MIAMI (FLA.) 186: R6P2 RB T.J. LOGAN NORTH CAROLINA

That would be a great draft.

While I don't think the Ravens would use a high pick on a d-lineman unless some monster fell to us, we could really use the depth since Williams is in a contract year and Jernigan could price himself out of our range after his contract year next season. Also, getting more of an interior passrush would obviously be great. So, any midround gems or early round guys you could see Ozzie going for? One that comes to my mind is Jaleel Johnson. He was named a Big 12 player of the week this week. During Iowa's upset against Michigan he had 9 tackles, 2 TFLs, and 1 sack. That's a monster game for a DT, and he did it facing great competition. He's also really quick off the line for a three hundred pounder. CBS did an article talking about him yesterday and it includes a clip of him knifing through Michigan's line on the goaline to tackle the RB for a safety: http://www.goiowaawesome.com/iowa-hawkeyes-football/2016/11/774/jaleel-johnson-keith-duncan-and-manny-rugamba-earn-big-ten-player-of-the-week-honors

From what I know, he's an extremely athletically gifted guy who is also very unpolished. He's the type that's taken for potential because if he does put it all together he can be a great edge rusher. However he also has the chance to be just another athletic guy that never lived up to his potential.

I meant to do one of these after the Jernigan trade, but kept putting it off. I'll admit upfront that the third round gave me a lot of trouble since there's a ton of guys I see going in the late 2nd to mid 3rd range. The third round picks could seem optimistic, but I'm going with my gut reaction for who'll be there. And to start, the picks before us: Pick 1: Myles Garrett Pick 2: Jamal Adams Pick 3: Marshon Lattimore Pick 4: Solomon Thomas Pick 5: Malik Hooker Pick 6: OJ Howard Pick 7: Jonathon Allen Pick 8: Leonard Fournette Pick 9: Derek Barnett Pick 10: John Ross Pick 11: Haason Reddick Pick 12: Michael Trubisky Pick 13: Rueben Foster Pick 14: Marlon Humphrey Pick 15: Ryan Ramczyk Round 1, Pick 16: Mike Williams, WR, Clemson Flacco just seems to do well with physical receivers he can trust to fight for the ball in intermediate routes (Boldin, Mason, SSS, and Pitta for example), and that's exactly what Williams offers. Williams can step in, and be the Mr. Reliable on our offense that'll keep drives alive and help us finish strong with a TD in the redzone. He can also go deep and fight for those 50/50 passes. Even if he doesn't catch the deep pass, he'll make sure the DB doesn't get it. Williams, Perriman, and Wallace would be the best WR core the Ravens have ever had, and we'd always have a mismatch in our favor. Also, on top of that Williams brings big game experience that the Ravens seem to like. He's coming off of a 8 catch, 94 yard, 1 TD championship game against possibly the best defense in college football. Round 2: Pat Elflein, C, Ohio State Great power, great leverage thanks to a wrestling background, and played at a high level against top tier competition. Elflein is an immediate impact lineman that will start from day one, and possibly become one of the top ten centers in the NFL. I think he's exactly what the Ravens are looking for in a center. Also, since centers usually don't break the bank he could be a franchise lineman that starts for a solid decade or more for the Ravens. Round 3 (Eagles): Ryan Anderson, edge, Alabama My gut tells me that more athletic guys that can possibly get 10 plus sacks a year (Rivers, Willis, etc) leap ahead of Anderson in the draft and it causes him to slide further than he should. Stout for an edge rusher (6'2") and plays even lower giving him a leverage advantage when combined with his long arms. He has the ability to get pressure, and can set the edge well. He can basically be what we wanted Upshaw to become, and someone that can fill Suggs' spot as an every down strongside edge player. Also, funnily enough, the scout quote for his NFL.com scouting report is: "Size is more suited for 4-3 SAM but he could play some rush outside backer in a 3-4. He would fit Baltimore and Pittsburgh as a 3-4 SAM, too." -- NFC area scout. I really think Anderson, Rivers, Willis, or Alex Anzalone will be here and all of them could be a good fit. Anderson is just the best guy to take over for Suggs and the one I see potentially sliding to this pick. Round 3: Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson According to PFF: "One of only four FBS defensive linemen with at least 40 combined pressures and 35 defensive stops in 2016." He's quick off the snap, strong, and makes full use of his long arms. He's the perfect replacement for Jernigan, and seems like a perfect fit for the Ravens. Round 4: Howard Wilson, CB, Houston Inexperience, lanky, and came out a year too early. But as I said before, he has all the traits you look for. I think in two or three years Wilson can definitely become one of the top five or six CBs from this draft, and can be a good starter. He just needs to be eased into it, and spend a year in an NFL weight room. Round 5: TJ Logan, RB, UNC One of the best returners in college football. He's got blazing fast speed and the ability to change directions on a dime. Gonna skip the 6th round since I really don't know the players that seem like they'll be available here. I guess a small school OT would potentially be good or another special teamer.

I'd be pretty happy with this draft. I think the guys in the first four rounds can be starters for The Ravens, and make an early impact. McDemott at least gives us some more competition for the spot, which is good.

I think I'd have to say Cam Robinson. Not because I think he'll be bad, but if we wanted an interior lineman we could get a lot more value by trading back and grabbing Feeney or Lamp. Also, Peppers. I just don't see him as some big play maker. He might develop over time, but I don't think he's an instant impact guy.

Carlos Watkins with one of our third round picks would be a day one starter and an upgrade over Jernigan, in my opinion.

They badly need a corner and he's rated as one of the best in the draft on most sites so I penciled him in as their pick. It could just as easily be Quincy Wilson or some other first round corner.

I think the mentality that WRs in the first are risky is kind of old fashioned. I would say over the last ten years (maybe even the last twenty) WRs in the first two rounds haven't had a bust rate any higher than average for the draft. Actually, some years they seem to have a bust rate much lower than other positions. Maybe teams are better at scouting them now or colleges are asking them to run more route types, but it's improved a lot over the years. Also, people's perceptions can be clouded by the Ravens' own issues with drafting WRs early. Right now it seems like athletic edge rushers have the highest bust rate in the early rounds. People get so enamored with the measurables that they forget if the guy is actually capable of dealing with NFL level tackles. Or they over look red flags like a bad work ethic.

Yeah, that's wrong. The combine measured him at 6'4".

It just seemed like Williams could get more separation downfield. Davis seems to rely more on quick cuts to get separation.

You have that in reverse. Williams is faster than Davis, and more of a bully when going for the catch. Also, Williams put on great shows against a higher level of competition. Davis is good but Williams is definitely the more talented of the two.

I think teams will go for Elflien first. Pocic has the problem of being tall for an interior lineman, and thus has leverage issues. He also has subpar strength for an interior lineman. I think he might have to move to guard at the NFL level because he won't be able to matchup with nose tackles, and he's only really a fit for zone blocking schemes.

McShay released a three round mock: 1: Mike Williams 2: Chidobe Awuzie 3 (1): Ryan Anderson 3 (2): Will Holden I think it's a reach on Holden, and I'd rather try for a center there depending on who was still available. The first three choices would be great.

His tape isn't as good as his combine numbers. He's not that polished and he hesitates at times. And he doesn't have great bend. The potential is there, but he's he's not a sure bet. I'd be pretty happy with him in the third, but I think the second would be too much of a reach.

In the actual draft I doubt he makes it to the mid second, but he would be a hell of an upgrade over Jernigan if he's there.

I gave it an upvote since I think it would be a decent draft. I do worry a bit about how Kpassagnon fits into a 3-4 defense. He might be better as a normal DE for a 4-3. Though that's really the only pick I'm wary of.

I'd love it if the draft happened this way: Your score is: 13176 (GRADE: A-) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 16: Mike Williams, WR, Clemson (A) Round 2 Pick 15: Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (B+) Round 3 Pick 10: Derek Rivers, DE/OLB, Youngstown State (A-) Round 3 Pick 14: Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado (A) Round 4 Pick 16: Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah (A) Round 5 Pick 15: Erik Magnuson, OT, Michigan (A) Round 6 Pick 2: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (A)

I think Mike Williams would make ten times the impact on our offense than someone like Cam. I like building in the trenches too, but there's no comparison in terms of impact that Williams will have vs any of the first round o-linemen in the draft. And the gap between Williams and the round two receivers is far greater than the gap between Cam and someone like Elflien in the second round. Hell, Elflien is probably a better lineman than anyone we would get in the first. "Unnecessary luxuries and could be had later." The team has used that mentality for awhile. It hasn't worked well. Remember the time we lost the Patriots in the playoffs because Torrey didn't fight for that jump ball? Or the time we lost to the Patriots in the playoffs because of a dropped touchdown pass? Or the time a Ravens WR dropped a first down pass on fourth down when he was wide open costing us that playoff game as well (I think that one was against the Steelers)? Inconsistent or at times just straight up bad receiver play has cost the Ravens a lot of games over the years, particularly in the playoffs.

Avoiding some of the obvious ones and going a bit deeper into the draft: Pat Elflien Tarik Cohen Ryan Switzer Josh Jones Howard Wilson Derek Rivers