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Williams is an excellent, but one-dimensional pass rusher.  Ravens passed on Godwin (WR from PSU), several remaining OL, and even some other Edge rushers (Lawson, etc.).  Hope Ozzie has some good inside info on this kid, because Bowser looks like another "too cute, too soon" pick in the 2nd.

very happy with this pick now we need to get Pat Elfin or Ethan Pocic in the second Zay Jones or Cooper Kupp in the third then Dion Dawkins or Zach Banner with the other third pick

Zay Jones, JuJu, and Dawkins will go in the 2nd.

Four Bama players available and we picked the 4th best. Color me less than excited with the selection. Would have preferred Gareon Conley.

Trust Ozzie to take the best Bama player available. Would've loved to have seen what the trade (up and back) options were. Probably would've meant Barnett had we traded up, and still Humphrey or maybe Take had we traded back.

Though I liked the thought of Davis falling to us, there is still a risk with all of the top-flight WRs.  Better that we make a safer pick at an enduring position of need, and the #2 overall CB at 16 isn't too bad.  I'm thinking Ozzie has some dirt on both Allen and Foster to let them slide, and he must not have been as impressed with Howard at TE as the rest of the pundits.  I won't ever doubt Ozzie's ability to select the Best Mama Player Available.  That said, tonight will be where we win or lose our 2017 draft.

6 minutes ago, reed20 said:

Maybe they really like Bronson to get it done

Yeah, based on all of his production last year and that fact that Harbs thinks he is a nice kid.  Works for me.

Would've thought Allen at that spot.  Interior pass rusher, and plenty of CB quality available later.  Oh well.  At least he didn't draft Cam Robinson.

Meet the Ravens 6th Round Pick: WR Deangelo Yancy (3 separate meetings with the Ravens)
 

https://youtu.be/-oinXrVu8Wc

That's awesome. Ozzie needs to replace the holes left by the departures of Tommy Streeter and Aaron Mellette.

We need playmakers in the early rounds. We need to come away with starters and potential pro-bowl talents at WR and EDGE in the first two rounds. We then need a C and CB in the 3rd. I feel confident that, between Urschel, Jensen, Wellesly, Nembot and a 4th/5th-rounder, we can backfill G/T (depending on where Lewis is most comfortable), not to mention a pre-camp vet signing possibility.

There is some depth at Edge and WR, but it will be depleted after the second round. I think the Ravens need to take BPA from those two positions in the first two rounds, and then look CB, C, OG, and/or ILB over rounds 3-4.  I think Ozzie will be more tempted than ever to trade back from #16 to gain an extra pick in the first 3 rounds.

The only exception would be if Allen, Lattimore, Adams, Hooker or Fournette fell to #16.

22 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Its been rumored that Fournette is being considered by the Browns at #1. So I seriously doubt he slides to us.

That would be a very Browns thing to do.

If you want to have some fun wasting time and playing GM, check this draft simulator out:  http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/

Using several different mock sources (for whatever that's worth), Thomas, Fournette or Lattimore frequently fall to #16, but no top WRs.  Still plenty of CB and OL depth in the 2nd and 3rd, but EDGE guys become scarce.  Useless, I know, but still fun to speculate..

I think Lattimore, Davis, Williams, and Barnett could likely be gone by the time we pick, though an early run on QBs or OL could change that.  There is a chance Fournette could slide to them, but that is unlikely.  I think the Ravens trade of Jernigan indicates they think there are 1st-round equivalent players available as late as #75 overall.  If they can trade back and net another pick in that range, I think they take it.  I could see the Texans moving up to grab a QB.

If Barnett somehow fell to us at #16, he's a no-brainer pick.  You can't dismiss his production over several years in the SEC.  

Just now, sizzlingdoom said:

Nick Mangold is visiting today

Well, can't sign anyone now until after May 19th without losing a comp pick, but the $1M from the Jernigan trade would cover a vet minimum deal for Mangold.

So the Ravens traded a former second-rounder, the only productive interior pass-rusher, one of the few guys with attitude, in his contract year, in order to save $1M and move up 24 spots in the third round? I don't get it. This doesn't help the team win in 2017, which had better happen or Harbs and maybe even Ozzie will be gone.

For the $1M, you can't sign a player even half as productive. If they were worried about re-signing him next year, let another team overpay and receive a probable 3rd round comp pick.  Eagles got a good deal here.

  15 hours ago, mendii said:

If teams are legitimately interested in Timmy, then they need to step up to the plate. Anything less than 2nd round doesn't make sense for us, and I'm not so sure our FO is ready to admit they won't be able to afford him next year. Besides, he's gonna be a beast this year on a rookie contract.

I don't think they have to admit that we wont be able to afford him next year. It is a given. If we didn't pay BWill than it would be a possibility, but its not going to happen, I would take a 3rd for him but I don't think there is a team that would give that up. I agree I think we should keep him this year and I also think he is going to have a banner year. But if there is any tiny tiny tiny hope of us keeping him, a "beast" year would certainly put him out of reach.

We're projected to have $46M in cap space next year, so we ought to be able to figure out how to keep Jernigan if he were a priority.

Don't trade him for less than a 2nd-rounder (his draft position). Get another season of affordable performance at the position (with some interior pass rush upside). If we choose not to overpay to keep him next year and he lands a big contract, we may get a 3rd-round comp pick.

1 minute ago, GENE2407 said:

Carr is decent but a far cry from what the Ravens need across the entire roster......premium top shelf talent. We're spending our money on safeties, ILBs and DTs. Again, no top notch CBs, no top notch pass rushers.

We signed the best safety and DT in free agency, and a solid (read average but healthy and available) CB, and a very good backup QB.  I'd call that an excellent haul for a team that started free agency near the bottom of the league in cap space.  

Ozzie will find playmakers in the first 3 rounds at WR, Edge, and CB.  Later rounds may find a serviceable OL to compete with the guys already on the roster.  That leaves ILB and FB as gaps.  The former better be filled by Correa, McClellan or Onwuasor (kid is a baller).  The latter can be had as a cheap FA, 4th-6th round pick, or Nick Boyle.

I like the way the FO filled out the roster in free agency in general.  Still have some cap to pounce on roster purges with upside after mid-May, when we no longer lose a comp pick.

I hope we don't regret paying Claiborne the extra $2M he was after.  Carr may be more available and experienced (aka old), but that only matters if he is effective while he's on the field.  After all, the FO had no trouble signing Woodhead, who is injured, injury prone, and the wrong side of 30. 

26 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Since Ozzie will probably pick the BPA, this signing shouldn't affect the pick.

He's grabbing a TE in each of the first three rounds...book it.

3 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

Urschel was actually drafted to be groomed to be our future center, but due to injuries he was forced to play both RG and LG, and center at times....having played all 3 interior line positions and his smarts i would like him to get the start and the opportunity to be our center...JMO

If we were running a pure zone-stretch blocking scheme, as we intended when Urschel was drafted, I agree.  I think we are looking to add more power blocking schemes, which would require some bigger, more powerful dudes.

3 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

So Zuttah is traded for an exchange of 6th round picks with the Niners. That saves us good amount of cap space. I think its a good move but where is the replacement? I hear we're not bidding for Mangold? So who? Not Jensen or math genius for sure??

Urschel is no better than Zuttah physically.  Jensen is a very good run blocker, but has trouble getting to the second level and is barely average in pass protection.

Our other options are Skura (great C at Duke, but a lighter build in the mold of Zuttah), Pughsley (have no idea) or possibly Wesley (big dude right there).  

Keep an eye on Nembot at RT.  Dude is a tremendous athlete.

Zuttah will be a nice fit in Shanahan's pure zone blocking scheme. I don't expect Urschel to be his replacement; he's of the same build with the same issues getting pushed back. Jensen is a possibility, maybe Mangold, or Ozzie is banking on a 3rd-4th rounder in a weak OL draft plugging in as a starter.

Ozzie will nab Claiborne or Carr, and may take a flier at Mangold. Beyond that, he would likely have to cut some more payroll (perhaps Watson and Zuttah) to do much else, I think.

That would have us entering the draft with our biggest needs (in some kind of order) as follows: WR, OLB, CB, ILB, OG/RT

At #16 I like Davis, Williams, Bennett, or McKinley (CBs after Lattimore are kinda bunched up, esp. with Jones' injury).

In the second round, I think we'll have a shot at CBs Tankersley or Witherspoon, WR Smith-Schuster, Kupp, Godwin, or Say Jones, OLBs Watt or Anderson, or OL Elflein, Dawkins, or Feeney (though I think we could wait to the third round on OL).

1 hour ago, Maurice0094 said:

I would prefer a rookie CB drafted in first 4 rounds vs a declining CB that Ravens tried to hide at S. Tavon Young did a fine job so it can be done.

Reality is we need at least another veteran and 2 rookie CBs

6 hours ago, 52liveforever said:

When it comes to the draft the ravens will always go with the guy highest on their board.  Which is the BPA.  If they think they can trade back and still get that player then that is when they will make a trade. Whoever that guy is they are going to go with regardless of what position which is what he is saying.  The board is already set up so it doesn't matter what position the player is if he is the BPA then he is getting selected.  I don't think he is arguing with how the board is put together he is simply saying come draft time it doesn't matter because that whole hypothetical situation of these players are close, but this position is more of a priority. 

 

For example say this is our board and we are on the clock: (think of this list as how we are viewing actual players in the draft and not like they are the actual players)

1. Ed Reed 2. Todd Heap 3. Ben Grubbs 4. Anquan Boldin

Now we need a Guard since Alex Lewis might be kicking out to tackle and this Ben Grubbs type of guard would be a great addition. We also need a receiver and this Boldin type of player would really benefit Joe.   We don't really need a free safety, but we aren't going to pass on this Ed Reed type of player when we think he is the best player on the board.

Well the obvious answer for Ozzie is #2.  When in doubt. add another tight end.