Defense provides offense 4 turnovers, holds top scoring offense to 20 points, and yet people complain about Pees? Are you serious?!
@AZRaven I'd agree on some of the playcalling. Definitely questionable at times.
DVOA has the Ravens with the 13th best pass defense. Takes into account down and distance, score, and opponent strength. Just putting that out there.
Also, Ravens have the best passer rating allowed in the red zone at 33.3. Next closest? Giants at 73.4
Maybe it's good that many of you are in a frantic state. Best to go into the season with low expectations and get your mind blown away if we're awesome!
A lot of the highly acclaimed 1st round players also have an injury bug. Even Calvin Johnson gets injured. Secondly, Brown doesn't need to be a #1 receiver. The Ravens don't need to be a top 10 offense. They just need to have a fluid offense. Rather have a dominate defense and a scoring/game managing offense than vice versa.
so basically you would be ok with 2 number 2 WRs in the future because that's what it looks like
Maybe we just can't develop #1 receivers, which is why we end up bringing in vet WR (who end up being the #1). But you know what? That formula has worked for us in the past. If anything, I'm more concerned about RB than a receiver.
Oh Boy another notification! Cant wait to rea- sigh... it's just another comment to pechillo's status
LOL
It makes good off season conversation (entertainment).
HAHAHAHAHAHa love this sorry brother
Blame Pees huh? You think Rex would do better? Pagano? Wade? We don't have the personnel to even press a sandwich together. The coach can only do so much. Ozzie is the only one who can fix that secondary.
Exactly! And we had Cam! Exact same situation.
@redrum52 we've spent plenty of picks on the secondary. From 09-14 we've had 18 draft picks first 3 rounds not including the comp for Gilmore. We've spent 2 first rounders and 2 3rd rounders on secondary players or 22 percent of all picks. If we include pass rushers, that's another 3 picks, total of over 40 percent of early draft picks on pass defense. As far as offense, from 2008 until now we ranked 11th, 9th, 16th, 12th, 10th, 25th, and are currently 6th in offense this...
This defense will not improve until we see a change in the coaching philosophy. When one scheme isn't working, change it up, disguise it, do something. Not every defense is perfect, but some are just great at masking those weaknesses. That's not Pees' strength.
I wanna see more Crockett Gilmore!
It was a shame to see that long reception called back last game. He could again be a surprise X factor in the upcoming games.
He looks content blocking and stunned when they throw to him
Give him a chance for some recieving work in sunny Miami
Seattle doesn't have great WR, and yet they win in a tough division. Hell, their top 2 WRs (Baldwin and Kearse) are undrafted
Not going to lie either, you'll never get a defense that good with Pees here.
As much as I've defended Pees this season, I will definitely agree with you on that
The Seahawks have also allowed fewer PPG in the last 2 seasons than the Ravens have managed in any season since 2011
Y'know what's the worst part of this draft? It's the fact that we're gonna have to deal with all of the disgruntled comments about the draft all the way until the season starts. We get it. You don't like the results of the draft, but how long do you have to keep telling us that? Show us mercy please.
That's because the Ravens didn't envision having Pitta go down or an anemic run game. The offense had carried them through the previous season while the defense was historically bad. The offense only lost Boldin and Birk, so there wasn't a reason to believe that there would be a drop off of epic proportions, but injuries will do that to a unit
Yes injuries will do that when you have zero depth. Sure, there will be a drop off with injuries anyway usually. But not that big if you have any depth at all. Now we get to my point - we still have zero depth.
They didn't have great depth on defense, but they dedicated free agency to the offense and the draft to the offense. They didn't just neglect the offense
I have a confession to make. I like the Ravens v. Pats rivalry better than BAL vs. PIT rivalry. BAL vs PIT is physical, but BAL vs NE? It's like Batman vs Joker, Ying and Yang, Cat vs Dog, Light vs Dark, etc
I think Ravens-Patriots is more of a playoff rivalry. Hopefully we renew it next weekend.
+I also think its a playoff rivalry simple because we have to deal with Pitts twice a season, then compete all season for top seed
I like it too. Street fighters vs the martial artists. Bruce Willis vs the die hard bad guy.
Look at the Broncos and/or Colts forum and you'll find that the fans are saying that their teams are gonna be "one and done" in the postseason. This just goes to show...no matter how good your team is, fans are always ready to write their team off after a loss
@Dom... in their defense, Manning was brought to win a Sb, not have a high season win total. I'd be a little mad as well, considering they're basically going all in, in the short term.
Many teams do not have a forum. In my opinion, of the few I have seen, we have the best membership
Every cloud has a silver lining... we're not alone.
I just saw a Bills hype video for this season. I've seen one for the Broncos, Giants, and Eagles.....where's our Ravens Hype video!? I iz sad : (
It's just not the same as fan made ones : (
True but I actually thought this one on-site was pretty darn good.
Indeed in it was/is pretty good!
Here I was at work excited that we extended Jimmy's contract, only to come on the boards to see ppl whining about the $$$. As if he was gonna get paid any less elsewhere.
Like many have said, if he can stay away from the accidental injuries he'll be one heck of a ball player for this organization! I love watching Jimmy play, let's go Ravens!
Ravens fans can be some of the most spoiled fans
Real football Ravens fans will know how much Jimmy is worth for the Ravens....The new contract is a steal....his injury is just bad luck and nobody has bad luck all the time....
Love what I'm reading about Boyle! "Fifth-round pick Nick Boyle brings a lot of size to the tight end position. He was one of the rookies who didn't seem overwhelmed. In fact, Boyle showed his fellow first-year players where to line up a couple of times before the snap."
If Pitta does come back, it's nice to know we have the option to work him in slowly rather than throw him right into the fire.
Yea I think the PUP list is a foregone conclusion for Pitta at this point to start the season.
We have a good crew. Hats off to Supernaw who was released
When the draft comes, we need to focus heavily on Def...AGAIN!
For the record, I never praised him.
Neither did I, lets keep drafting defense and not see an improvement....hmmm
Why? We've been hitting defense very hard for years - the top 3 picks in each of our last 2 drafts, and the top pick in each of our last 5, have been defensive players. Last time we took offensive player round 1 was Oher, last WR round 1 Clayton (10 years ago next draft). At a certain point, the guys we drafted need to play up to expectations, and we need to think about the long-term future of our offense as well.
We always want Joe to prove himself, but for this game, I'm looking for our WRs to show us that they're the real deal! Be better than their corners.
I'm looking at Daniels and Gilmore - New England has been good against receivers but not so much against TEs this season.
SSMith is the prefect guy to match up on their corner tandum. Aiken,Brown and TSmith can disrupt Browner. I think our TE's have advantages in the second layer
IMHO they don't have to show they are better, just show they are good enough to beat them in a team win. Though, maybe that is showing they are better.... Let's just win the game one play at a time, total focus.
Calling it now, Jimmy is gonna get an INT against Dalton!
he seems to have daltons number. lets hope he shadows AJ and we dont end up seeing chykie trying to run down the sideline with him
I predict one for him and one for Hill
At least we still have Ozzie, Harbs and DeCosta
If I have faith in anything Ravens related, it's in Ozzie and Harbs. Not saying they're always right...but I still have major faith in them
it doesn't help that the best are gone already. I'm having OC Castillo anxiety attacks lol
I'm interested in Greg Knapp. But let's see how these guys do. I can't knock them yet
So according to unnamed online article "The Baltimore Ravens are the most despicable sports franchise in America". Looks like we're back to being the 'thugs' of the NFL. Nothing we can do about that I suppose...
We were actually better when we were known as thugs. So this doesn't really hurt my feelings at all. Keep calling us thugs.
I have no issue in us being perceived by everyone that way. I just wish our D had that swagger to go with it.
All I gotta to them is what a famous Baltimore QB once said "Talk is cheap, let's go play!"
As much as I'm not happy about the possibility of us not making the playoffs, I can still see the positives of having winning seasons despite us being in rebuilding modes with 2013 and 2014. But after reading these boards, I'm truly convinced that a lot of Ravens fans cannot cope with mediocrity. From "let's bench Flacco" to "We need to fire Ozzie and Harbs", for the well being of Ravens fans, I don't think this team can afford to not be champions of something...
I don't think he let that get to him. He stayed on as DC until he was offered a HC job.
We are rebuilding s much as people don't see that. Our time will come, just as it did in 2012. Patience is key. successful seasons as we have had throughout the years has become an expectation. We should appreciate it so much more than we do.
As you know I am Not a neg, doom & gloom fan.Its the positive that Ray Lewis embeded in us.
I'm not trynna be that guy...but SOOO many people are hyping us. "NE is scared of BAL". I'ma say it now, come gameday, NE's gonna wanna do more than just win. They're gonna do their best to try and bury and embarrass us. Definitely not saying they will, but they're not gonna be playin just to get the W. I'm jus sayin
I still have faith we'll win, I'm jus sayin the Pats are gonna be playing to humiliate us rather than just win the game
Is there something new about this? They run up the score all the time and media doesn't say crap about it; then when we run up the score, media and fans get pissed off...It is man football so if you can't stop them from scoring, it is your fault....
If they try to play to humiliate us, that will be their downfall. I just want us to play better than they do to the extent where we win at the end. The rest is meaningless.
If 2012 was the year of the Rookie QB, 2014 is the year of the Back Up QB
Which brings the question : Which would you rather have, a Good QB that gets hurt a lot or a Bad QB that never gets injured?
Personally I want the Good/Solid QB that I can count on game in game out, year in year out. As opposed to a QB like RG3 who shows Elite skill levels and amazing plays, but will always be injury prone.
I prefer a good back up QB
Till this very day, I ponder who was the heartless soul that destroyed Timmy Jernigan's snowman
It was Robin Lopez from the Blazers. He hates mascots
Ngata, that's why he got traded.
LOL!!
So.... it seems we have a new trend where a blowout occurs in each TNF game
Well the Giants were the away team...
That's what I was asking
It was only a stat from a sports network. That is all. Soon to be forgotten. Baseball has the most insignificant stats.
If we just, run the ball more... sincerely keep to the running game, then we would have won today and in Indy. Joe is awesome, but Joe and the receiving core can't be our primary motif. Let our running game do the big work. Tone down on Deep throws
We definitely didn't abandon the run. However, I feel like we relied more on the passing game when we should just try to commit more to the run game. Look at our past games. When we have a healthy balance between running the ball and passing, we win. We lose when we break that balance.
We threw it 34 times and ran it 26 times. The balance wasn't the issue.
What people are asking for isn't really balance... they are asking for run-heavy.
-SIGH- This is gonna be a long week till Sunday. At least watching the Redskins lose tonight will make me feel a little better
Nah... even the Skins losing won't make me completely happy. It will only give me a smirk and a chuckle.
Well Washington didn't lose but we got to see Dallas melt down on prime time television so that isn't too bad
Your prediction is a cause for us to excell as they were under dogs playing in Cowboy world.
Steelers and Ravens fans HATE each other, but there's still respect. Pats and Ravens hate each other, but there's NO respect. "The most deplorable organization in American professional sports punched its ticket for a playoff rematch with the New England Patriots next weekend" - Boston.com