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    7 hours ago, jdynamite said:

    Honestly the moment I read about them having Correa practice and learn both OLB and ILB I envisioned them screwing him up similar to Kruger.   

    Anyone remember how Kruger went from DE to OLB back and forth for several years.  Forcing the guy to put on extra weight then lose weight and work on quickness. 

    I mean let the player get acclimated to the NFL in general before trying to teach them multiple positions and overloading them. 

    Second rounders are usually players that are NFL ready but don't have much upside or have a great upside and not even close to beiNFL ready. Correa was the latter. All the reports on him are that he needs development but his potential is crazy if he reaches it.

    it doesn't concern me that he didn't start last year because it was expected. We just got a little excited and wanted him to start right away when that really wasn't the plan to start with.

    Your absolutely right when it comes to screwing it up for the guy by teaching him 2 positions before he masters either one. Correa has a high motor and an insane first step. coverage was never his strength in college and for that I'm extremely concerned that our FO is trying to force him into playing ILB full time. 

    I wished that he practiced OLB purely because between him Suggs and Judon, wed have a nice fight for playing time for specific situations.

     

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    21 minutes ago, mendii said:

    Lewis v Hurst for RT will be a good battle in camp, the "loser" could potentially become the starting LG. A stud center in the draft is more important to me than a stud tackle considering our depth chart, and we can find that on day 3 instead of worrying about it day 1 or 2.

    That would be a disaster waiting to happen lol

    Hurst at LG and a rookie day 3 C?

    just theoretical here but let's say Stanley catches a virus and misses preseason game 1. So you'd probably haveYanda LT, Hurst LG, Rookie 5th round C, Urschel RG, and Lewis RT starting that game.

    would you play Flacco? 

     

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    10 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

    We have our normal 3rd round pick currently. If he walks in FA, we could get a 3rd round comp pick, which would be late in the round.

    If we instead trade him, we would pick up another 3rd, but we would lose the ability to get that comp pick. So all we did was move up some spots.

    If we did the deal with somebody who ends up picking in the back half or end of the 3rd round (a contending team), then we would be trading Jernigan one year early and basically just getting a draft pick that's maybe like 5-10 spots better in the 3rd round.

    If it were in the first round, I'd see the value. In the 3rd, I don't.

    I agree 100 percent as I wouldn't trade Jernigan for anything less than a second. And no one is giving up more than a 3rd for him. So let's at least have him for a good year and see what happens then.

    It scares me that our FO probably looks at it another way.

    A third this year is as good as a second next year if we flip it. A second next year is as good as a late first the year after that.(That's when we cash in on Jernigans comp if we get one)

    1- a third this year or even a 4th is much more valuable than a 3rd comp 3 drafts away.

    2- there's always a chance that a player gets hurt or suspended and crushes his value in FA where our beloved comp turns into a 4th or worse.

    3- looking at next year's FA, if Jernigan is out of the picture then there really isn't anyone that could yield us a third round comp. That basically means walking into FA with no limitations other than the salary cap. Imagine walking into FA with 30 millionish to spend and no comp to protect. Ozzie is probably drooling already at that thought.

    im on your side of the boat regarding Jernigans situation. I'd hate it if we trade him away for a third or fourth but I wouldn't be completely surprised if Ozzie pulls the trigger. It's simple risk vs reward. Call it being conservative and I hate it but it's definitely logical.

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    2 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

    I'll bite. 
    John Ross and Cam Robinson are high up on my "do not touch" lists. I don't like either, but thanks to an amazing combine from Ross he will probably go high. Likely to us which would piss me the hell off.

    Cam Robinson I don't like either, and if we draft him I'll call for Ozzie's head. Ramcyzk is the superior prospect. 

    Heck il bite as well!

    John Ross is the fastest player in the history of the combine. But just looking at his film I don't see that speed....

    hes fast, real fast, but doesn't have that same game speed. Il also add that his route running isn't where it needs to be. He'd be a steal for someone in the second round but damn would it be disappointing to whoever drafts him in the top 15. He's not a big WR nor have I seen enough elusiveness that someone like a Brandon cooks had coming out of college.

    theres a chance that Ross turns into the best receiver the NFL has ever seen but I don't think that chance is worth a top 10-15 pick. The risk is just too high! Heck the guy cramped up after 1 run in the combine lol

    cam Robinson is probably the best RT in this class. I absolutely agree, you don't take a RT 16th overall! If you asked me a month ago I probably would have celebrated. But now his measurables make it hard to justify.

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    1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

    While I don't think their cap situation in 2018 will be bad, I should also point out that they have $134M under contract currently, but that's only with 36 players.

    As is typically the case, its not so much about affording him as WANTING to afford him. Committing something like $20-25M in cap space in a given year to two defensive lineman who aren't particularly great at rushing the passer isn't always the best investment strategy.

    I'm not buying the talk of him getting traded or of us not being able to resign him just yet, but again, its difficult to commit that much money to those types of positions.
     

    36 players is not a low number at all. Say 8 draft picks (Jernigan, Mosley, Gilmore) that's 47.  Only 4 roster spots to fill.

    i absolutely agree I'm also not buying into the trade talk. Just doesn't make sense at the moment. 

    if your committing 25 mil on the 2 players then he'll no. That's like saying Jernigan will get a 15 mil per year deal. Let him walk and il gladly take another year of cheap production along with s third round comp. I'm thinking 18 mil between the two is fair if we have a top 5 defense

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    Wow, that Lombardi statement was all over the place!

    1- Jernigan is not like guy, he's probably going to demand more than double guy made in free agency!

    2- the Ravens can afford to keep Jernigan as they have upwards 35 mil to spend next year and basically only Mosley and Wallace to sign.

    3- then he claims the Ravens can't pay him because they payed Williams wich also has nothing to do with Jernigan.

    4- finally he suggests moving on with Pierce and Williams when Pierce doesn't even play Jernigans position!

    is this guy serious? 

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    4 hours ago, Jonah DeVito said:

    The PI rule should absolutely stay the same. There is no reason to make it a 15 yard penalty instead of calling it at the spot of the foul. That's penalizing the offense for no reason. Also, if you really think we can rely on the refs to determine whether the contact was accidental or not, I honestly don't know what to say to you. Id say their job is hard enough as it is. 

    It's ok you dont have to be so politically correct.....

    the refs are HORRIBlE at making judgement calls and would blunder game after game if we put this in their hands lol

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    2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

    I expect rosters to increase relatively soon but I only see a jump to 55 or so. I wouldn't expect inactive lists to go away though. A big part of the game is strategy - picking who to play and who to try to sneak through waivers. The inactive list is there for fairness in the first place. If you have a team with 10 injuries and another team with 0, that's a 10 player advantage for one team. 

    A minor league system sounds great but it's not really feasible. How many leagues have tried and failed already? There's not enough interest in seeing fringe NFL talent for ticket sales and revenues to support a very expensive sport. The league would likely have to be owner supported and funded, and it's hard to imagine businessmen soaking money into something that's not going to make them money. 

    Great post!

    I agree on the difficulties of scaling a developmental league. I think owners should fund a developmental league because the benefits are undeniable.

    If owners really adopted such an idea then it could be watchable. This is all wishful thinking but I'd probably tune in a league with manziel QBing one team and Cutler another. Look around, so many Qbs could use a glorified tryout. I'd also like to see some of the Ravens ps players that wev kept. Maybe play some rookies we draft this year to spice up things.

    this could be interesting. It won't be NFL level but the competition would surely be tougher than college where rookies can benefit from the transition.

    heck maybe have a mini combine type of workout where vets show up and get measured to see where theyr at this point in their career. 

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    6 hours ago, hen826957 said:

    Yeah l know that. That what Ozzie does. I just wishing we could get Zach Brown that's all. Just dreaming. 👍

    At first I wished we'd land someone like Brown for the sake of improving the team. Now I want the Ravens to sign Brown purely for your persistence lol

    id kill to see your post when that signing is announced 😜

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    1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

    I can't see Mosley being allowed to actually play on that 5th year option and even have a chance to get to free agency - I think he'll be signed next off season which will obviously hit that figure hard - I didn't realise we're likely to have that much space though - that's crazy

     

    39 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

    Is it really true that we'll have around 35M in cap space next offseason? Imagine have that much cap space with an already improved defense. That money can be used to upgrade the offense next year. 2018 might be a big year for us. But it's hard for me to believe that we will have that much cap space. 

    We actually would have 43 mil if Mosley isn't included. Also realistically, the draft picks and FA we get are also gonna dip into that number but we still have a solid 30 mil and a lil more if we free up some.

    i also agree on the Mosley part. We shouldn't wait till it's too late to extend his contract. I don't think he has anything else left to prove he's a keeper.

    and yes, we are finally over the salary cap hell we put ourselves into after the SB. 

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    8 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

    especially after watching the live mic'd stuff which suggested he was a real vocal leader on the field for the d linemen despite brandon williams supposedly being that guy - i think the reason he gets a long leash (despite occasionally the coaches picking him out negatively in post game interviews when he's been a bonehead) is because of how important he is within the group as a personality - i really wish he'd properly put it together for 16 games... now he literally cant stay more than a year because of brandon's deal

    Yes he can, we have 35 mil in cap space next year! And Mosley is under contract for at least one more year so Brandon's deal has nothing to do with the Jernigan decision.

    i also wish he'd keep it together for 16 games. Seriously, if he did then he'd be talking 15 mil a year kind of money and that would be hard to justify. I'm happy if we hand him a 8-10 mil a year deal for the potential of him getting it together. We all know he has flashes of "greatness" in him.

    jernigan is a guy id love to keep, especially that we don't have to go out of our way to keep him.

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    19 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

    Poe had to take a 1 yr prove it deal. 

    Jernigan, if he wants big money will have to do the same unless he plays out of his mind this year. 

     

    And the reason you may may take a 3rd now is bc a teams 3rd is higher than a comp pick. You take a 4th bc a bad teams 4th is only slightly worse than a comp 3rd (which there's no guarantee we get, idk if it's even likely) in a historically good/deep draft. 

    Assets now are almost always valued more than assets later (non-complete-rebuild scenarios).... 

    Your absolutely right regarding assets now vs later. A late third this year is as valuable as a late second next year. 

    That said, I'd still be dissapointed if we let go of Jernigan for a third rounder. everyone here is saying it like we can just draft a third rounder and teplace Jernigans production. Heck wev done that that past few years (Davis, Kafusi, Lewis, and Urban) all drafted in the 3rd and 4th rounds but none have come close to beating Jernigan out for playing time.

    if it ain't broke don't fix it. Let Jernigan play out the year. We already have positions we need to upgrade. Let's not add another one.

     

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    22 hours ago, leziRav said:

    I would not trade him nor sign Arthur Jones. I would keep Timmy one year and see how things goes during the season. However if they can trade him for a second rd pick this year then I am ALL in.

    Exactly. Keep him for a year and get a comp third in return if he prices himself out. I also don't see a trade worth it unless we get a second and that's highly unlikely

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    3 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

     

    Here's my priority if all of those players magically came available at !6. 

    Adams (simply because of his off the charts leadership and great talent - a combination that in the past has led to HOF players)

    Foster (Incredible complement to Mosley)

    Hooker (great player)

    Lattimore (CB - He is a shut down corner pure and simple).

    Fournette (Game changer - will win us games single handedly on offense)

    Davis (will make catches outside his catch radius and will what Julio is to Ryan)

    M. Williams ( Same as above except not that dynamic and fast but will improve Joe's stats by leaps and bounds).

    Humphries (Pretty close to being a lock down corner but doesn't come down with 50-50 balls)

    Nice! It's like you and I are watching the same film 

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    1 hour ago, Crusader said:

    Question When 16 comes around and by some miracle there still there who do you pick in which order? I would go Hooker or Thomas.
    ILB Foster

    CB Lattimore, Humphfries

    S Adams, Hooker

    RB Lattimore

    WR Williams, Davis

    Wow tough question. I honestly would be happy with any of the 12. Idk I'd have to go pass rush. Garrett, Allen, and Thomas are just animals but probably going top 5. Hooker and Adams are also Animals! But probably won't fall out of the top 10.

    that leaves

    1-CB Lattimore 

    2- CB Humphries (I know Iv been raving about the CBs in the second but if one of these 2 falls I take all that back. These 2 are shut up and "change your plan" type players)

    3- ILB Foster (just imagining him and Mosley gives me shivers)

    4- Williams WR

    5- Lattimore RB 

    6- ramzchak OL (however it's spelled lol)

    7- Davis WR

    thats my preference at the moment

    you? 

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    1 hour ago, sizzlingdoom said:

    I hear that completely. And agree. I'm just trying to figure out what potential top 10 talent could fall to 16.
    I would be all in on Corey Davis for one example. Can't see much else
    Like Barnett...maybe. But I love the value, and almost player separately, of taking someone like Carl Lawson 20 picks later.
    In all sincerity, I prefer Ju Ju Smith over Mike Williams, short term for sure. Probably long term as well. And he'll probably go 20 picks later at least than Mike as well.
    I hear ya. I just can't get over this 2nd round that's gonna happen in this draft

    Oh my my. I'm already licking my chops... It's gonna be a delicious second round indeed 

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