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I am wondering if Monroe is injury prone...how many games did he miss last year? The year before?? Is it technique related, or toughness related?

I wonder exactly what you are wondering.....

Monroe didn't miss significant time because of injury but he played banged up for the majority of his time at Baltimore. Most of his injuries were bad luck like this or when he got rolled up on. But it leaves me to wonder why hes always in a position to get unlucky?

Whether we like it or not, Monroe is staying here for this season and next because of the contract he signed. We don't need Monroe to be he next Yanda or KO but seriously bro carry your own weight and contribute like the 8 mil man that you are. 

I love SSS senior back there. He's probably the returner on this squad. I wish harbs plays him one more game just to prove that he's legit as a returner the. Hand the job to camp or whoever until the playoffs come. Then it's work risking...

... which injury has since then re-evaluated as nothing more than a bruised finger, so now they say he could very well play against us.

I don't care if it's Carr or if Gannon comes back from retirement. If we don't crush the Raiders then I'm gonna shoot myself.

This game is on everyone on the team, except the secondary. Flacco got rattled and was throwing very uncomfortably, that is due to the fact that to O line was folding faster than a house of cards, the receivers barely had chances to make plays, and when they did they couldn't come up with the plays they were supposed to. Case and point a veteran receiver like Steve Smith Sr. has to catch a ball and win the game and not let it bounce of his helmet. I think he is a great and feisty receiver but that was a clutch play he couldn't make. The running game was disgusting again because the O line couldn't block anything out there. On defense Yea we lost T Sizzle, but lets be honest, except for experience and heart, he didn't bring much more to the D and was on a decline, otherwise the defense was immaculate, I am not concerned at all. Mosley is a beast, Jimmy Smith is a beast, Webb played great. Once Monroe is back we will be great on defense. Offense needs major help thought. Flacco needs targets and protection and an explosive runner, all those areas right now are barely mediocre. Hopefully Periman can bring something good to this team in terms of a deep receiver. But most importantly defense wins championships and we got a solid solid defense that is going to get even better with maturation of the great young players we have and a few holes that need to be filled. And Denver was the best team we are going to play all year, so it will only get easier from here on out especially knowing we were only one catch away from coming up with the win.

I love how everyone is brushing away Suggs injury like it's no big deal and wish I had your positive spin. It's true that Suggs is on the decline but he's declining from the best Defensive Player in the NFL not too long ago. He's the best edge setter, screen disturber, on this team. He's smart, reeeeeal smart on the football field. Makes everyone around him. You guys forget that he had double digit sacks while attracting most of the double teams. Thus doom blossomed. We lost a guy that every opponent had to game plan against or he'd just wreck the game. He's still a top 10 guy in this league and would start on 31 other teams.

The D looked beautiful last night. I loved it. But loosing Suggs was a huge blow. We even felt his loss in the 4th quarter......

I just hope we haven't seen the last of him. This injury sucks! It's a year till he can play again and another year till he's 100 percent. Even if he starts week 1 he'll only have 70-80 percent of his quickness. I'm glad this unit is deep and talented all across but I'm bummed.

"Elite" QB don't throw interceptions in the end zone. Joe is not very accurate to be considered "Elite"  Joe seldom hits any one in stride. The passes are either high or behind.

Finally some objectivity around here! Yeah we all love Joe and are glad he's our QB but he's not the most accurate out there. He rarely hits his WRs in stride. I've been saying this for years and no one wants to accept the fact. This game is on Joe. 9 of his 18 completions were to backfield guys. Put down the purple cool aid guys because Joe himself would admit that this game is on him. Time to get back to work!

if maxx williams gets 40 catches and 400 yards this year, i will kiss him square in the mouth. i say this fully expecting it to not happen, and thats not an insult to him, the kid is gonna be a baller, but rookie tight ends really just dont perform well, it is a huge learning curve, maxx williams is not only one of the youngest players in the league, but he only played 2 years of college ball and hasnt even finished puberty yet, the kid has some developing to do and thats just how it is.

Maxx is a great guy and easily the best TE in this weak TE class. Hes probably not the Gronk or Graham type of a player (potential) because those 2 are just freaks of nature. But he certainly more physically gifted than Pitta and most NFL TE's. I am one that doubts a lot of Ravens moves but TE is a position that I simply can never doubt. Ozzie has always fielded a top 10 TE crew including last year when pitta went down. Just this offseason, Ozzie passed on a few descent catching TE before the draft and passed on trading peanuts for a VET like Vernon Davis or so. This leads me to believe that Ozzie and them have 100% faith in who we have. 3 rescently drafted guys and a Pitta if he ever comes back. I'm always a bit skeptical when my team fields 3 TE's with a total of 10 NFL catches but Ozzie's record is perfect with TE so il shut up.

Now if we talk secondary then we have an issue! The NFL has evolved and most sucessful teams use 3 WR 65% of the time. That means we need 3 quality CB's. As things stand, we have 1 and a half. i took the half off coz both J.Smith and L.Webb are so injury prone. Every time one goes down, we are left with 1 solid CB and 2 below average guys that get exposed! 

To my understanding, the ravens have acquired 2 draft picks by trading away Gino Gradk and the other center. We will most likely get 3-4 good comp picks leaving us with 12-13 picks ahead of next years draft. We have the ammo and cap space. Make it happen Ozzie!

Cutting someone because of their size and not their talent or what they've shown you on the field seems pretty narrow minded. Brandon Flowers is 5'9 and he's a top 10 CB in the NFL. Not saying James will ever be that good but there are plenty of corners his size who have been good role players as well. One man's trash is another man's treasure, wouldn't be surprised at all if James get's on the active roster sooner rather than later.

I hate the fact that the Ravens passed on a 5'9 Brandon Flowers when he became available last year and perhaps passed on a trip to the super bowl. Brown and Asa Jackson and oh my god I don't even want to remember...

Why exactly do we need a good returner? The highest volume kick returners only bring out like two a game, and you're really looking at MAYBE 10 yards a game difference between a high quality returner and an average returner.

 

Punts are even worse... still looking at close to a 50% fair catch rate, and the gap between quality and average punt returners is less than 5 yards per return.

 

ST is one of those things where its nowhere near a requirement to be great at it. You can have a mediocre kicker, punter, and kick returner and easily hoist the Lombardi (we've seen this many, many, many times). With ST, the only thing you can't do is suck at it. 

 

Never been a big fan of wasting a roster spot (we saw how valuable even a single roster spot last season was) on a guy who will mostly just stand in place, catch the ball, and take a knee. I'd much prefer a player who can do that to be somebody who at least offers something else somewhere, even if its only depth.

 

Take a look at the stat board at the types of players who are returning kicks. There's a lot of Darren Sproles, Pacman Jones, Tavon Austin, Ted Ginn, Antonio Brown, Devin Hester, Leodis McKelvin, Jeremy Kerley, Andre Roberts type players on that list. Mostly backup WRs and CBs, who at least offer something of depth, even if its minimal. A lot of these guys are 3rd or 4th WRs on this team.

 

Besides, not really sure what people see in Holliday anyway. Think we are pretending like this is the 2012 playoffs when its really 2015. A lot has changed since then.

I agree that it's hard to carry both a designated returner and a long snapper that do nothing else. But you are being a bit too dismissive of a few undeniable facts. 1- in 2012 a Denver returner almost cost us the game. 2- Some can argue the Ravens wouldn't have beaten the niners without jacoby. 3- yards per return are unfair because when Hester was in his prime, he may have only averaged a few more yards per return but every team kicked out of bounds or fly balls to deny him from getting a chance. Punts were shorter and when you take into account all aspects it's not just a few yards. 4- a good returner makes smart decisions that don't count on the stat chart but could drastically affect a game. 5- in a 16 game tough schedule a team has 4-6 or even 8 games where a call here or a play there makes a huge difference. Having a elite returner could be the difference between winning a game or 2. 6- I've seen games where the bears were just horrendous. They would literally have 2 good drives. A few points off turnovers. And 2 nice returns from Hester that led to long field goals and the miserable bears got through.

A solid returner won't help you win a shoot out but can certainly help your cause in a nasty low scoring trench war in the AFC north.

I hope that letting Jacoby go to save 750,000 in cap space doesn't haunt us. I'd normally have Jacobys back but the guy literally dropped more balls than catches for the majority of last season lol.

Bottom line is someone needs to step up real soon or we may have a problem. Harbs takes pride in fielding the best punter, kicker, long snapper, and I'd be shocked if he just goes with a pedestrian returner

Wow Will Hill 92 PFF. I'm looking for great things from him. I if Campanaro can stay healthy he could be big on third down. They always put Joe down as a bad Quarterback even though he has beat nearly all the quarterbacks that they say are better. According to them he should lose every time when he faces these quarterbacks. What a shame that he gets such little respect.

No shame brother it just makes victory a whole lot sweeter

Think of triple safety coverages. Pees runs a hybrid 3-4 and having Will Hill, Kendrick Lewis, and Kam Chancellor on our back end. That would be insane. Already two of the best inside linebackers in the league and two of the best outside linebackers, if the defensive front stayed healthy we have Smith on the outside... That would be legit. I also agree Perriman when he comes back healthy will become a star. You know why? Baltimore usually never as their 1st pick start out with the starters. CJ Mosley last year had to work his way up for awhile. Seeing Perriman day one of training camps with the starters and picking him apart, along with his great film of saving Bortles' you know what several times, he can be the next Julio Jones. He can take his time coming back, it would be nice to have him but division games don't start till week 3 so he has time.

Oh man that would make my summer! Will and Kam would set the tempo every game with 2 or 3 big hits. Oh and have I mentioned that they both can take on any TE in the NFL and Blitz like LBers. Our hybrid D would be nasty and unpredictable...

Fred Jackson is out in Buffalo. I don't know who is going to be after him, but I think since the New England Patriots and the Buffalo Bills are in the same division, I think they will go after him. I wouldn't mind if we went after him either, but we all know that the Cleveland Browns don't have a running game either. So there are few teams out there that would make picking Fred Jackson up kind of hard.

I respect Fred Jackson a lot as a player and as a man. That said, I don't think he stays in the division as hes too loyal to his Bills. I'v read a report that the Seahawks are front runners and he could be signed today. The Ravens have also shown interest. I honestly don't know what he can bring to the Ravens that we don't already have. After all he is 34 years old and probably has lost a few steps.

This means that Lorenzo Tall's injury is more concerning that reported. The Ravens have options tho..... Steven Jackson is sitting at home and averaged 3.7 yards for 2 years behind the horrendous Falcons line. He'd instantly be our best short yard back and could mentor LT when hes back.

A few more RB's will be available as the season gets closer so im not worried at all. I just hope the Ravens make the right call on whoever we bring because we probably have to let go of someone we drafted over the past few years.  

If Ozzie makes a move??

I'd be disappointed if he didn't make a move!

In the past two years, Ozzie has quietly put together a young solid foundation to build around. I say he did exceptional with what he had. And that was with his hands tied behind his back with all the injuries and dead money. Just to keep things simple, hes had 2 great drafts and stolen a few gems in FA that he should get arrested for. D.Smith, Forsett, W.Hill, and the list goes on..... Every year around this time, Ozzie has rewarded us with a legit starter. One year it was Monroe and the next was Zuttah. Doom was just icing on the cake as the Broncos screwed up and Ozzie came flying.

I expect another trade and it could be anywhere in the secondary as this unit has star power in Hill and J.Smith. It just needs one more solid guy that doesn't make mistakes. In a perfect world, Id make a run at someone like Kam Chancellor who is on the block and would instantly make this secondary one of the best in the NFL. But realistically speaking, we could move for someone like Husain Abdullah who played great for the Chiefs when they had injuries and is now excess of requirement.

Iv read reports regarding the Ravins and Fred Jackson. That means LT will miss some time. I'm hoping Fred signs for the Seahawks. I don't see how he can help this team? I would take a good look at Trent Richardson and Steven Jackson who are sitting at home. They can both potentially fill the void LT left in short yard situations. I swear Steven Jackson can teach LT a few things by the end of the year.

Dline was our deepest position before pre season started but injuries have taken a toll. Carl Davis may not be ready to step up as a starter by opening day but I'll take my chances with B.Williams C.Canty and Jernigan untill either Carl and KLM breaks through. Yes I said it. KLM is looking better every week.

Oline is set in my opinion. All i hope for is that J.Ried gets bumped to the practice squad and a vet comes in to backup our starters in case of serious injuries.

WR is where I'm skeptical. I was and still remain Perrimans #1 fan. I'm also a realist when I believe that hell have growing pains. Hes never had an NFL snap and transitioning from UCF to the AFC North is no easy task. I hope hes healthy and gets the NFL before the playoffs come and he can contribute then. Untill then, IDK if we can roll with SSS and no Camp or Perriman and an underachieving group of WRs. Im really intrigued at what will happen within the next 5 days.

RMC, BIO, Alaskan, Joe Flac, Huntrg, Dorota

I would appreciate your input

Orr over Brown

Your right. As things stand, if Mosley or Smith goes down (knocking on wood) Orr would probably get the nod. But Brown certainly has a lot more potential. 2 or 3 years down the road Brown could be a quality starter while Orr probably won't get much more than a quality backup role

I really thought Brown was a first round talent that fell to the second and was delighted when Ozzie moved up for him. Like many have said here 1- he's a freakishly unique athlete. He's really really fast and can tackle. I'm surprised it took him this long to realize he needed to gain 15 pounds of muscle. 2- he has a much higher ceiling than Orr and will be a quality starter in this league. Eventually the game will slow down for him as his technique improves. I hope it happens with the Ravens rather than somewhere else. 3- and no I don't want a com pick from him. That's magic when a late draft pick prices himself out not when a high draft pick blossoms late.

Bottom line is. Brown and Upshaw could make this Linebacking Crew the deepest in the NFL if they pan out and stay home.

I don't usually call people out like this but in Jah Ried's case I'm gonna say it. It's been quite some time now and this brother just can't get it together! Every time he starts picking up momentum 1 of 3 things happen. The guy is gets hurt, in trouble off field, or draws penalties and almost gets quarterbacks killed.

The Ravens have drafted like 40 players since he was drafted. I'd hate to see someone let go because we kept him on the roster instead of the PS. Id make him the first guy on the PS and if some other team clears his waivers then so be it.

Dear Baltimoreravens.com,

May we get an article summing up the players that have been released over the past few days that the Ravens could be looking at right now?

Out of the back of my head. 1- Trent Richardson RB 2- CB from the Bears 3- FS from the Giants 4- OL from the Colts 5- Okoye from the 49ers Dline

Idk if any of these guys would start for the Ravens but could provide some quality depth. Okoye is probably gonna be on someone's PS because the guy just started playing football 2 years ago. But the guy is faster than most linebackers in the NFL and stronger than most linemen. We develop Dlinemen better than anyone and I wouldn't be surprised if we could turn him into a gem.

The rate and extent of injuries this season is alarming. At this rate, the NFL should increase roster sizes for the regular season and allow 2 IR (designated to return slots per team) and allow PUP placement for injuries occurred during training camp. It just seems to me that injuries are increasing in recent years. The reasons could be players are faster and stronger than before and their ligaments have to bear substantial musculature and stress. We cannot afford to lose Jernigan to any injury at this point.

That's part of it. modern medicine and science has taught us how to get muscles to be 3-5 times bigger and stronger than they are supposed to be. Modern medicine didn't teach us know how to strengthen an ACL or tendons or even bone mass.

My million dollar question is. Why is the NFL forcing players to hit lower and lower knowing that significant injuries are a direct result?

"Defenseless Receiver" rule is a joke! Tell me one WR on this planet that would rather take a hit under his waist when hes not looking instead of taking a blow "closer to his head"

How about spending a few million dollars RnD and come up with helmets that really prevent concussions. How about a helmet that's not a weapon? IDK maybe a helmet that has support both inside and outside to relieve the blow thrown by the tackler.

Imagine wearing a pillow for a helmet. How hard can you headbutt someone? but you can still put your shoulder down and cave someones chest in.

The NFL took the cheap easy rout and just eliminated high hits. The result is more ACL MCL and torn achillis and broken hips and ankles. Why am i not surprised that the NFL is more concerned to defend its back in court over players safety?

No, not just you. The line should have done something, like the Chargers did

 

“That guy was on top of Philip, and that’s our quarterback,” Dunlap said, via U-T San Diego. “I protect the quarterback at all costs.”

Exactly!

Awesome play. And I like the 360 camera angles.

Totally agree. Those 360 cameras are insane! I remember being a kid and that technology was used for the Ravens Giants Super Bowl. iDK why the NFL got rid of them as other sports like tennis picked up the idea for replays etc...

Glad it's cost effective now 15 years later lol

It's preseason. Everything gets called back in a week or so. But one heck of a play penalty or not! That was my play of the day....

1- Our secondary needed help!

2- Our secondary needs help!

3- Our secondary still needs help!

And don't tell me they just need to get healthy. What facts did that assumption come from......

J.Smith is awesome when healthy. Webb is awesome when healthy. Hill is awesome when healthy. But lets face it. Based on their record, they will miss time due to inury or suspension. What do we do then?

Lewis, Arrington, Levine, Waller, Melvin, and Brooks are not there yet. They may step up for a game or two but they are not starting caliber secondary guys for a team aspiring to reach the Super Bowl.

Truth hurts but it must be said by someone.....

1. Its either the coaching or the players, but the secondary looks terrible? These are supposed to be the guys that are better than the ones who could not hold two 14-points leads against the Patriots. Players off the ball 8-10 yards then missing the tackle. Pees is concerned with giving up the big play but playing off so the offense can get chunks underneath isn’t any better. (Arrington, Lewis, and Vaughn are not as bad as they appear in this scheme) I see this too often in the Pees scheme. Matt Weiss is the CB coach. Ravens need to do better there. Secondary guys are not developing. Only the PR machine on the site will hype those guys. Ravens Play cover 2 and press the receivers 2. Injuries. Hope starting O-line and D-line are intact. Injuries are depleting a once fierce line up of D-linemen. Hope Jernigan and Tyson are ready game 1. Jah Reid almost got Schabb killed. Why is this guy still around? 3. Growing Pains. Allen, Walker, Z Smith. Potential, but not ready yet. They will be up and down since they are young. 4. Time to watch the waiver wire. Get a veteran receiver. Joe needs another reliable target other than Smith Sr. The offense tanked once he was ejected. Will Perriman be ready Game 1? Get a veteran to mix in with the talent 5. Emphasize some strength: TE group is good. Gilmore is a monster to guard, Boyle and Williams are raw but have playmaking ability, front 7 is fierce, Flacco and Foresett look sharp. Weaknesses can be fixed. Get a vet receiver to let young guys develop and Pees please stop prevent style of defense. J. Smith, Webb, Arrington, Lewis, Hill, Vaughn, Walker, Levine, and Brooks are good enough talent in the secondary but you can’t tell in this scheme..

Just one side comment.

What happened to disguising a Blitz? It seemed like every time we send extra men to the Quarterback, the whole building knew it was coming. If my mamma knows a Blitz is coming from a TV screen thousands of miles away then the opposing quarterback sure as hell knows its coming....

Its probably more of a pipe dream but Kam Chancellor is approaching a month of holding out. It doesn't seem like either side is willing to back down for various reasons. At this point, The Seahawks will trade peanuts for him. Will Hill is the only Safety on this squad that is battle ready at this point. Please Ozzie PLEASE i beg you to make a move for Kam.

Flacco got roughed up just one play after the scuffle. Am I the only one that noticed that? The Oline just watched as their quarterback got hit late for no reason. No that should have been a ejection or a fight. For real man teams should never impose their will on us. Not at home at least....

I actually respected the fact that SSS showed no backing down. If the refs won't stop this nonsense in preseason then someone needs to step up. The Redskins were hitting late all game and no one was fighting back except Gilmore and a selected few. After the ejection, they went straight to Flacco with a roughing the passer. That's 80% on the refs and 20% on our Oline for not showing up. I don't like giving away penalties and stuff like that but if you go for my quarterback one play after a scuffle then it's on! Our Oline should have had flaccos back right there when it happened.