sizzlingdoom

Of course I'm not reading it... SMH..... move on now. I don't know why you even have a discussion with that user. They are closed minded and think their opinion, which is all it is, an opinion, is fact. Almost everything related to the NFL is opinion. Even when you bring up stats, everyone is in completely different situations so even stats are irrelevant a lot of times while trying to make a point. I love having open discussions and learning from others opinions on here, but as you're finding out probably, useless with that one

You nailed it! The FO's stance on the offense is simple... they've just got to play better. That's so easy to say. I am sure OC Marty will be relieved to hear it. Let's see. He has Wallace, Waller, Moore, Perriman, Matthews, Campanero and now Woodhead. Of the entire bunch, only two have proven they are starters - Wallace and Woodhead. The others have some potential but that's the worse thing you can say about an athlete. I would like to see Q come back to Bmore for an encore but don't count on it after the way the FO treated him after the SB. Ask yourself why Waller is a WR and not a TE. Get Perriman to make the routine chain-moving catches a pro is supposed to make for his QB instead of an occasional circus catch. Keep Campanero healthy for a whole season. Good luck, Marty! If we go into the season with Wallace, Perriman and Moore as the top 3 WRs, you are in serious trouble unless you can get them to "just play better". But what the heck, it will give the Flacco doubters and detractors some more cannon fodder. Not drafting a WR in this draft is symptomatic of a FO in denial, delusion or delirium. That's what is simple. In fact, its so simple its offensive (pun intended). 1. Well most of them have potential because they've only been in the league for about a year. By definition, that's what the majority of second year players in this league have in this league at this point. If teams wrote off all those players after a year, they'd be missing out on studs quite often. 2. Waller is a WR because we had like 7 TEs at the time, and he offers very little as a blocker, which is a requirement for a TE. 3. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter who our "top 3 WRs" are, because three receivers aren't producing in this offense. They never have, regardless of who the OC is. Two WRs can produce, 1-2 TEs can produce, and a RB can produce. That's it. If your third WR is catching like 50-60 passes, that means we're throwing the ball 600+ times a season. That means we aren't running the ball effectively and we're losing games. 4. I mean I guess we could have drafted a WR, but obviously it wasn't happening in the first round, since the only one's worth that price tag were long gone before we picked. I only saw 3 go in the 2nd round, and I wasn't impressed with any of them outside of Zay Jones, who again, went long before we picked. So I guess we could have used a 3rd round pick or later on a guy, but obviously its naive to think they're going to come in and start for us right away. funny how you use the word "obviously" while trying to make your points. The only thing that is obvious is it's your opinion, and not fact

Agree 100 percent that OJ is probably the best TE prospect iv also seen. Disagree that he wouldn't add much more productivity than we already have. He's not gonna get 1800 yards and 14 TDs. At least not this upcoming year. Juju in the second would have been a perfect fit if our FO knew they could land Williams in the third then they probably would have taken Juju. relax, we can't have it all. We have a top 5 D and we're not done on offense. Give me a healthy Gilmore along with Pitta playing primarily in the slot. Give me a solid Vet WR like decker and that basically offsets the pass on Juju. I am 100 percent sure that we will have another solid WR to compliment the two studs that we already have. Oline is what really concerns me. Our FO have the tendency to just roll the dice with young guys. I love me some Yanda and Stanley. I like Lewis, but I'd be holding my breath if we send a rookie C out there along with another rookie on the line. If Yanda gets banged up then this Oline could literally crumble... We don't need to get with the times. Flacco is not and should not be a volume timing thrower. Get the run game going and that'll open up single coverage deep. That's where Flacco is dangerous. I hear ya, but what run game? Dixon is out 25% of the year, and unless we sign Mangold, we'll basically have 3 rookies on the oline. Unless we make another couple additions to the offense, we'll probably have a bottom 5 offense. Adding Mangold and Decker would go a long ways. Charles would be great if he's healthy. We're running out of time now though, we're not the only ones looking for quality players

I think OJ and Ju Ju would have not only been bpa but filled huge needs as well. Frustrating. We'll see

Probably our best pick.

Well good thing you educated Mink, lol. Everyone agrees, he will see a ton of time at DE in our 3-4. However, that is NOT the only position he'll play. 6'5, 300lbs, with long arms. He's about as athletic and as agile as a person gets that is that size. He'll bump inside for a pass rush on obvious passing downs, and he also rush from the edge, successfully in college. Not to mention I bet he gets multiple sacks from his DE spot as well

Even though I hate our coaching staff when it comes to coaching on the field, I think they will use him correctly. I think he's a pass rusher. It's that's simple. So I think that will be hard to screw up. My question for him is whether he can beef up a tiny bit, and become an actual edge setter as well. I hope so. If not, I think he'll just be a really good specialist, while we attempt to go forward with Bowser and Judon as the OLBs. I think this will be a very telling year for Judon. I think mid way through the year, we'll have a good idea of whether he can just be a nice piece at times, or whether we think he'll be good enough to take over as a full-time OLB once Sizzle is gone.

I saw a post draft power ranking thar had the Ravens as the 22nd best team ! I can't wait to see our defense come out and crush 90% of the 21 teams they put ahead of us ! With a more dominant defense our offense will have more breathing room this year. It's about time Baltimore got back to it's roots and stopped setting the bar at "trying to win the close ones"..! It's time to dominate ! Winning by knocking the will out of teams ! Like in the old days. Ugly Ball . . ! You got that right. The Offense is gonna be UGLY. I think we'll be lucky if we can even call it ugly LOL! good thing we didn't draft Howard or Ju Ju..........JEEZ

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Howard could've gone as early as 4, and is the best TE coming out I've ever seen.Future all pro no doubt. He falls to us, SO we take a corner that gave up 19+ yards a catch, on one of the best defenses of all time. Ju Ju, a younger and more explosive version of Q falls to us in the second, what do we do? Take a raw pass rusher from Houston. Sweet.............................................................. The rams offense will probably be better next year. Get with the times FO

Pretty much my feelings as well

very true

I wonder if Charles is healthy I doubt Q wants to come back, but I hope he does Mangold AP would've been an upgrade Can't believe Alshon only got 6 mil in a contract year, Pryor would've been great too I wonder who is going to get cut. Maybe Decker, if he'a healthy he'd be a perfect fit Regardless of who it is, we better pick up some offense. Our disgusting offense from last year has only gotten worse since the season ended. Someone should probably tell Ozzie we have to play Offense too. Passing league now. Not 2000 anymore If someone responds by saying yes, we got defense to stop other offense.... We used the 16 overall pick on someone that gave up 19+ yards a catch. In college. On some of the best defensive teams of all time. Because he can't locate and make a play on the ball when it's in the air. Hmmmmmmmmm. Steve, it's about time for a whole new family. We're all assuming Eric is staying, but let's find him some competent co workers that are caught up the times eh

Doom: You need to calm down and give the kid a chance , the first round is behind us M Humphreys is now a Raven, so lets support him. Maybe Oz will surprise you today, IMHO I thought Evan Engram was the best TE prospect of this draft. You're right. I'll chill. I just think it was another pick similar to the rest of our picks picks in recent years, that has sent are team sliding to say the least. And he certainly did surprise me, taking a a raw player out of Houston, instead of Ju Ju. Seems like the FO forgot we have to play offense to. Someone should tell Ozzie it 2017, not 2000. Can't even say anymore that the game "is" changing, cuz the game "has" changed. Passing on Howard and Foster was unreal. Foster I understand, Howard, not a chance. Our offense was close to being as painful as it's ever to watch last year. And we lost a HOF wr and our RT. Yet added nothing. What kills me is that everyone keeps saying, o yeah it was our defense that kept blowing late game leads......maybe the cuz they were on the field the entire game and gassed at the end. Plus Deen's awesome gameplans at the end of games. If our offense would stay on the field a little more, and maybe score some points, the defense would be a lot more ready to shut the door at the end of games. All I can say is it should be incredibly fun to watch the D this year...........and when the O is on the field, I might be cringing the entire time

his impact is clearly not the same if there is such a big difference in stats when on different teams while the way he plays remains the same. those stats you listed could be pretty much the difference between all pro and pro bowl. according to you he would be an all pro with the bucs and just a pro bowler here. pretty much a difference in impact. You're wrong. when different teams win the SB they have different approaches and will always have completely different stats. We would never have stats anywhere close to say the Saints when they win the SB. That doesn't mean what so ever that a player like Howard would be more valuable to them in their run then he would to us.

would have been nice to see what frazier could do with this kid but we will find out in a year or 2 if it was the right pick to make. Frazier was such a pick up. Just like our pretty much only other awesome recent coaching add, Kubiack, he was one and done. Big bummer. Hopefully I'm wrong about Marlon. Today is HUGE!!

You would be 100% correct if we took someone like Tabor or Awuzie. Not to mention they're still on the board. This guy got absolutely torched down the field, IN COLLEGE, with one of the best Front 7's of all time in front of him................ You're telling me you want that going up against Brady and Ben? When It matters. Especially this year? We'll see. In any case, I agree, let's kick butt day 2. It IS make or break time What happened when your "better version of Boldin" WR JuJu lined up against him? 1 catch for 9 yards. Humphrey dominated him. So, if Humphrey is a bum CB, then JuJu must be a horrible WR that can't play against press coverage. In Saban's defense, CB are put on an island with no safety help. Yes he got burned in a few games but he dominated in a few games as well. Kid is big, fast, physical, has elite closing speed and is only 20 years old! He needs to work on some technique issues - but that's it. Will be a stud CB in this league. I hope he will be a stud, we'll see. You can't judge things off one game, there are way too many circumstances. Especially in college, you know that

im pretty sure that if humphrey get to cover any of those receivers he will get safety help over the top. if those CBs where better then him they would have gone in round 1 to and probably before him. NFL teams dont agree with you. nothing more to add to this. also nobody is denying that OJ is a very talented TE. But what makes you think that his talent would translate to being an all pro on the ravens? for someone that says he has been a ravens fan for 12 years i really wonder based on what do you think we would all of sudden have the offense that gets players to be considered an all pro? you mean every wr in the division? lol NFL teams don't agree? nothing more to add? LOL Cuz all drafts, or wait any, end up anything close to an actual snake of overall talent and production when all is said and done? Cman Man. Just watch, Tabor's and Awuzie's career will blow Marlon's away. Just a fun little thing for both of us to watch over the next couple years at least. And I know what you're saying. But that's not what I'm saying. I don't know why people still get caught up with stats. Especially with football. It doesn't matter if OJ goes to Tampa Bay and catches 95 balls for 1450 yards and 12 tds, or catches 65 with us for 900 yards and 9 scores. He's going to block the same, and be the same dominant overall type of player for his team. He would have the same impact regardless of stats. His impact towards helping us win would be the same. Every team has different styles and stats. Stats never tell the whole story. Not even close.

even when marlon is not on the field i expect a safety over the top . nothing radical about this tbh. quite frankly i expect any defender not named jimmy to get safety help if they have to cover the opponent top receiver. heck i could even see jimmy get help from time to time if has to go against guys as good as OBJ and julio tbh. Well, I myself have faith in Jimmy playing one on one. And Tavon. And I don't think I'm alone with that opinion Tavon proved himself last year. He ran with and covered AB down the field, and shut down Eifert from the goaline. As a rookie. Carr is going to be much better than people expect too. He was a baller in KC as the # 2. Then he went to Dallas as the number 1 and was not bad when they did not have any pass rush. I think Carr was a really good grab. And that's obviously not a relevant statement. Maybe 1 or 2 corners on the planet can try to stay with OBJ or Julio

Exactly. There were much better corner options further down the board. So we not only missed out them now, but also passed on future All Pros like Lamp and OJ too. Bummer to say the least

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone with reason and insight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lamp and Howard are the one's we ABSOLUTELY missed. Unreal And Sidney is Twice the corner Marlon will ever be. Even if came back 85 %, which he won't

weddle over the top as the centre fielder. problem solved. So anytime Marlon is on the field, we'll just make sure Weddle always has to cover him over the top? what a plan

Our TE group and WR group are both bottom 5 in the league.( don't give me Pitta(not a TE) check down stats, or "potential from TEs that don't hit the field) If Gilmore would find a way to stay healthy, and we draft Ju Ju both of those rankings can be flipped in a hurry. And they desperately need to be. Not a great start yesterday, let's see what today holds

no but odds are 2 safeties will be on the field on pretty much every play. well if you have a shut down corner on the other side then you have the luxury to do just that. not to mention the are very few rookies that became shutdown corners from day 1, if there are any. expecting that from a guy just because he got drafted in round 1 is stupid. also did you just start watching the ravens after the SB orso? jimmy in his rookie season got burned quite a lot deep and it als happend a lot in his 2nd season. he pretty much fell for any double move and could not recover. he became a quality corner who did not need much help in year 3. Corner is 1 of the hardest positions to adapt to coming to the NFL period. I definitely do not expect that from Marlon. I expect him to get torched if he plays any 1 on 1 this year. Esp. vs Brown, Green, Ross, Bryant, Coleman. And those are just guys in our division. And no, I've been a huge fan for about 12 years. There are 4-6 corners that are better that are still on the board. We could've picked one of them today, while at the same time already having a pro bowl Center, RT, or Guard-Lamp or an All Pro TE- OJ......but I already know the response there- "we have a top 10 te group" Pitta- my sister blocks better. overrated as a receiver, predictable handicap Gilmore- can't get on the field Watson- too old and coming off devastating injury Maxx- A bust and " not strong enough" after his 2nd year in the league..........LOL REALLY? Boyle- A good back up that was suspended most of the year Waller-"potential" and everyone knows he's not a TE Amazing to me that are fans are still enamored with the "potential" word

He got Torched in College. With an epic Front 7 in front of him? Please explain how that translates to stopping Ben and Brady, not to mention being the 16th pick