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2 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

That would be so counterproductive. I hate it! 

I wonder that when they draft a player, can they put a 5th year option instead of a 4th that way we have a extra year on thier rookie year. Joe Flacco had a 5 year rookie deal while CJ Mosley have a 4 year rookie deal. CJ Mosley should have a 5 year rookie deal and we wouldn't have to worry about it until two more years. 

I heard that Timmy Jernigan is on the trading block. Or thinking about trading him since they can't afford him next year. http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/3/24/15050162/michael-lombardi-says-the-ravens-are-talking-about-trading-timmy-jernigan-nfl-draft-brandon-williams

3 hours ago, Chuckx999 said:

We need to find another Ray Lewis. Someone who not only can be a HOF LB but a strong presence on the field, kick players in the butt to keep them playing at a high level the whole game. After 45 minutes a lot of our players and coaches seem to decide to take the fourth quarter off. The Steelers game was a perfect example. So it's NOT just the players that may need to be replaced!!

That's is very hard to find another Ray Lewis. I don't think there will ever be another Ray Lewis. Ray is one of a kind leader. 👍

I've had the pleasure of watching Juju play live twice and the guy is an absolute beast. He isn't a burner by any stretch, but he is extremely physical, runs great routes(so he gets seperation) and has very soft hands. He catches everything. One of the toughest kids I've seen play. The Q comparison is pretty spot on, but I think Juju might have more raw athleticsim at the same stage. Juju would be a good get in the 2nd imo. He would be a good fit with Perriman and Wallace. While those two can stretch the field, Juju is the guy to move the chains, make tough contested catches, be a mismatch nightmare in the redzone and be a great, reliable target for Joe. Kid has a ton of heart and is built really well. Love him.

If we do get Juju in the 2nd, then l hope we get Barnett in the 1st and then a corner in the 3rd round or trade back to the second round and get a corner. But man l also really want to get Zach Brown though to replace Orr but it looks like they probably won't get him because they would've been interested by now. I guess the Comp picks will be affected.

2 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

i think barnett is the only one that some how could slide to us (doubtful) thats truly worth the 16th pick the rest of these guys are good but then I think of judon and smith and if they draft a OLB pass rusher whats it say to those guys the only gut i see us going after is anderson from al and if we do it will be in the 3rd round or late 2nd

I like Derek Barnett as well in the first round as to l only think that he could be similar to Suggs is. I wouldn't mind drafted him in the first round if Mike Williams and Corey Davis are off the board and he's still on the board. That's is a great pick for Ozzie. 👍

3 hours ago, billiejean said:

I cant really tell if you are serious or if you are being sarcastic but either way I would check out thet guys they have.  They  D haven't put all the pieces together yet and didn't have as good a year statistically as the Ravens did last yea,r but they have a lot of young guys at key positions.  Once that D starts clicking the Raiders are going to be a tough team to beat.  There offense is already in the top 5.  That 2014 draft was special and was the catalyst that has turned that team around.  Carr - one of the best young QBs in the league.  Mack - one of the best pass rushers in the league. And in the next draft they picked up amari cooper, one of the best young recievers in the league.  They hit on a few others that year as well.  Jack should certainly get some credit as well the FO.  Although if you are GM and have three consecutive season where you pick in the top 5 it increases you chance of hitting.  But regardless of that they have found some guys in the laster rounds and Carr in the second was a slam dunk

Yeah, the Raiders been hitting most of those picks usually because they been bad for so long and kept picking at the top 10 picks for many years. Their top players mostly been in the top 10 picks. The Raiders got some good pieces then in there on defense. I still like the Ravens though imo as of now. They do got a better pass rush because of Mack though. There team is in better shape as a whole as in talent wise and cap wise but they do will have to pay Carr, Cooper, and Mack top dollar in the future.

  4 hours ago, RoamingRaven said:

That's exactly my point, people in this thread are acting like Aiken said "Screw Baltimore, I hate them, they suck, I did amazing things in Baltimore, Indy ftw." People talking about him like he spray painted a swastika on the field before he left. Jeezz

No one is saying Aiken was great, never said he was better than Perriman or Wallace- just that when given playing time, he's more dependable to catch the ball.
Keep in mind, all those stats about his 1st down %(which led our receivers) or 4% drop rate came in the year where he saw his reps decrease cause SSS, Periman, and Wallace were 1, 2, & 3 in the depth chart.

Everything Aiken said is valid.
Are there better options, OBVIOUSLY.
But to Aikens point, there is a difference between not playing cause you suck, and not playing cause the front office wanna see what the rookie can do.

Aiken is not that great BUT, when put in his shoes, if in 2015 you led the team with 75 receptions for 944 yards and five touchdowns, then see your self on the bottom of the depth chart for what is in your mind no other reason than some bigger names came in.... tell me you wouldn't feel the same way???

Its a product of ones inability to be objective.  People were saying the same things about KO last year.  And they would chastise the guy for being "selfish" and taking the money.  And that kind of thing just blows my mind.  Its a physical sport.  Every single game there is a chance that a guy could suffer a career ending injury.  You have to take as much as you can get in your first contract because there in no guarantee that you will get another one.  After he signed with Oakland there were people that were so bitter that they would say irrational things like...  Its a black hole in Oakland....  He is never going to win there.....  If It was me I would take a hometown discount so I could play on a winning team.  yada yada.  The last one is the one that gets me though.  Heck I would trade all of our players for all of their players in a heartbeat. I wouldn't even have to think about it.  That team is going to be a legitimate contender in the playoffs for many years to come.  I feel sorry for the city though.  Just when the franchise is getting back on track they move. It reminds me of the Supersonics.  

I wouldn't trade our defense though or our special teams that's for sure. Lol.

Life in the NFL today. Whatever team pays me the most I'm leaving. Simple formula. Juice was way over paid but good for him. When he is released by the Niners as a cap casualty two years from now and 7 total wins later at least he was able to grab some extra cash.

It usually always does. I wish Juice could stayed but that what it is by having salary cap.

Imo, I think Ozzie should find pieces of O-line the middle rounds and save a 1st round pick on a Wr/passrusher. Ozzie does find gems of O-line late such as Marshal Yanda and Rick Wagner was. I hope we could get either Mike Williams/Corey Davis or Barnett with our 1st round pick and then get a corner with our second.

19 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I guess his recovery will tell. Thank God for modern medicine and rehabilitation processes because these types of injuries used to ruin careers. I think year 1 would be a wash as he will need to recovery then get back up to speed the rest of the season. 

Investing a second rounder for a guy that was arguably the best in class is worth it to me. The question will be whether other teams are willing to make the move before us 

Yeah... the Cowboys probably might get him in the end of the first round. 👍

3 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

Blue clues Lol. I remember that show when l was a kid. 

3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

3 hours ago, Bruce_Almty said:

It appears Sidney Jones will play this season.

Still doubt it. At best, I think he ends up on a PUP list for whoever drafts him, meaning he misses half the season.

Basically a redshirt year for him. Rookie corner coming off a major injury with like 6 months to recover... not worth the risk.

Probably... but if the Ravens drafted him in the second round and that he had to miss 6 games on the PUP list, we won't have no problem with that since we sign Carr. After the 6 games has passed, Sidney Jones can slowly contributed to the defense. The only real risking question is that will he lose a step in the NFL since his injury? Will he lose his full potential? Will he still be the same Sidney Jones in college?

3 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Sidney Jones potentially available for this season?🤔 Ozzie make the moves to grab this guy in the second!! Hopefully teams sleep on him and he end up in our laps 

I would to love to get Sidney Jones in the 2nd round now since he would be still playing this season but l'm worried that this injury might have loss his full potential. He might still be drafted in the 1st now after that news but in the second round, l wouldn't mind trading up for him. I just hope he doesn't lose a step after that injury. The Cowboys might take him at the end of the 1st round round since both Carr and Claiborne left. 

12 hours ago, sflegend89 said:

The offense needs a serious makeover and then we turn around and spend spend spend on a defensive unit that was ranked top 5 already last year. The offense was pedestrian last year, then we lose our best WR in Steve Smith, our starting RT, starting C, Juice, Aiken... a terrible unit has gotten significantly worse and we're out here throwing more money at a defense that easily could've just used the draft this year to make additions. This isn't a good offensive draft, we have far more holes than can be filled and yet again our big money QB get's left out in the cold.

 No alpha WR, no playmaker at RB, no dynamic/versatile TE, OL in shambles. The front office has me seriously concerned, what roster are they looking at? Have they watched the offense the last 2 years? Do they not have the heart to tell the fans we're rebuilding this year because by the looks of things we're looking at a multi-year project to get this offense to a competitive level.

I wish Steve Smith could've help us to play one more year until we find his replacement next year but anyway; free agency on offense wasn't really spectacular. It was mostly 30+ year old recievers in the market that was close to be out of his prime. Also RB's and OL. I'm glad the upgrade the defense. I was tired of the secondary causing us to lose at the last possession of the game. The draft could help us a little as well I need 2018. 2018 could be a good year for us. 

  6 hours ago, hen826957 said:

I think Carr wouldn't look to bad at number 38. Who has number 38? But number 24 is a good number. 👍

Last season #38 was assigned to Jumal Rolle.

Ok thanks. 👍

2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Don't forget they are bringing in Ross from Washington for a try out....

Yeah l heard. He came to visit the Ravens today. 👍

1 hour ago, Crusader said:

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  5 hours ago, The Greek said:

definitely need to add one with one of the first 2 picks imo. i see us drafting a wr or olb at #16 depending on which one is the bpa

I think we need to go WR, OLB, O-line, RB and then CB just given how deep this draft is for quality CBs... I think we can get a good developmental CB in the 4th round.

I seriously can't believe your endorsing Ozzie to pick another receiver in the first round. Were still waiting for the last one to show up.

We really don't have much of a choice to be honest unless we sign a Wr before the draft. We are thin at Wr so if Mike Williams or Corey Davis is there, we have to draft them. If they're both gone, then go to the other route a get a pass rusher instead or whatever.

I think Carr wouldn't look to bad at number 38. Who has number 38? But number 24 is a good number. 👍

  1 hour ago, hen826957 said:

I don't get why they are not interested in Zach Brown. He could fill the void and perfect replacement for Orr and even a upgrade. If it because the compensatory pick then smh. He won't be that expensive to sign. Hurry up because the Dolphins and now Bills are interested. Zach Brown would make our defense even more scary.

i like brown as well but he is out of our price range with what we have left in cap space. still have to pay the rookies and have emergency $$ for in season signings when injuries occur. imo if correia does not step up than ozzie and the scouts will have dropped the ball on an early round pick yet again. hoping he is the real deal.

I wonder if who ever sign Zach Brown, l wonder what his deal would be. If it's higher than we made the right decision, if it's a not then Ozzie didn't even tried.

  1 hour ago, hen826957 said:

I don't get why they are not interested in Zach Brown. He could fill the void and perfect replacement for Orr and even a upgrade. If it because the compensatory pick then smh. He won't be that expensive to sign. Hurry up because the Dolphins and now Bills are interested. Zach Brown would make our defense even more scary.

i like brown as well but he is out of our price range with what we have left in cap space. still have to pay the rookies and have emergency $$ for in season signings when injuries occur. imo if correia does not step up than ozzie and the scouts will have dropped the ball on an early round pick yet again. hoping he is the real deal.

If they don't get Brown, they gonna have to get a LB early. I wish they could get Brown so they could fill that void right away and maybe even a better upgrade. All well we'll see what happens. I wish Orr didn't have to retire.

10 minutes ago, ByTheBay said:

3 years 20 mil would put him in the top 7 highest paid ILB in the league. Even at 5 mil a year he would be in the top 11. Maybe he is worth it, I don't know, but I would be very careful not to create a situation where we can't resign Mosley next year. Would be even better if the fo can extend him this year to avoid the Fa all together 

I hope they can extend Mosley. The quicker they extend him the better. 👍

Yes l do. That's my opinion. I don't care what anyone says. Anyway that's not my decision, it's Ozzie if he don't sign him then he don't sign him. Simple. I'm just thinking suggestions, he could be high could be cheaper idk. He's been in the market for awhile that l think he won't be expensive. Don't take it personally with my opinions.

  34 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

  47 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

How do you know how expensive he is?

I don't. He's been on the market quite a while and his price probably drop. 3 years 20M will probably be enough to sign him if they want. He also fired his agent due to making him being overpriced.

LOL, well at 3 years, $20M you already know why we aren't going after him... because we don't have that kind of money to spend.

With that kind of price tag for a #2 MLB, we wouldn't be able to extend Mosley in a year or two.

He'd have to be in the $3-4M/year range or even less for us to entertain it.

You do realize that spending $6-7M/year on a second ILB is a ton right?

6-7M doesn't equal to 20M so it have to be at 5.5M a year which l do think he will accept. But l really don't think that's is the cause because l know they could get him if they really want to, it's because the compensatory pick that Ozzie loves smh. They could still cut Arrington and Watson to free some room as well.

15 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

LOL, well at 3 years, $20M you already know why we aren't going after him... because we don't have that kind of money to spend.

With that kind of price tag for a #2 MLB, we wouldn't be able to extend Mosley in a year or two.

He'd have to be in the $3-4M/year range or even less for us to entertain it.

You do realize that spending $6-7M/year on a second ILB is a ton right?

LOL here we go again. Ready to pounce huh. No, it's not. He probably would be even accept 5M a year.  

16 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

How do you know how expensive he is?

I don't. He's been on the market quite a while and his price probably drop. 3 years 20M will probably be enough to sign him if they want. He also fired his agent due to making him being overpriced.