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  2 hours ago, Orange_Peanut said:

I know that we have a lot of slightly above average RBs but if the Ravens draft a gamebreaking RB like a Dalvin Cook, Ravens will be really good. Build from the inside out, plus we already have the pieces to have a great run game
(stout linemen, great defense, WR that stretch the field). If the first round pick is used on a WR, that makes us more unidimensional.

I see a lot of resemblance between the SB offense we had. We are only missing a Ray Rice-type RB and Anquan-type receiver on the team

I think you have a decent point. if Cook is there with the likes of the lower edge, WR, Cb players I think he is a good pick for the Ravens at 16.

The biggest factor is can he start and carry the Ravens as a rookie in the NFL. I just don't have the information to know that. I would say that only the top decision makers will have to decide that.

If the Ravens do not take a RB early, I think they should consider someone like Hightower or maybe Hillman in FA. A relatively inexpensive vet, downhill, big guy who can bust into a D line and hopefully get some first downs.

I'm just not sure about West yet. He did ok but he needed Dixon to spread the load. He seemed to have trouble with 2nd down, or better put, back to back running plays. With Dixon out, Woodhead will be called on. I really like Woodhead, but he is also not that downhill- bust into the line- type of RB.

As far as WR I'm a little less worried, though I think the Ravens pick up at least one WR in the draft and another veteran FA. If the Ravens can get the running game in gear, I think we see Perriman and Wallace both break 1000 yds each. With Pitta, Woodhead, Dixon all around 500. Joe will be right around the 4000 mark once again but he should improve rating, TD and completion ratios.

If they draft Cook, then they probably will cut somebody. I don't see how they will carry 4 RBs. But honestly, l think we need more of a passrusher or Wr in the 1st and a corner between the 2nd or 3rd round. I don't want to see Ozzie wait into the 4th round and draft a corner when mostly all of those talent corners will be gone by then.

16 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

firs off that the sprecher root beer raven and the color aint gold its yella.  second off doan think the steelars are a good team and comparin where we are cuz weddle and mosley couldn't stop a 145 lb receiva at the goal line is not a benchmarc for how close we are.  the benchmarc is facin a bengels team that had their entire ofense out and bein unable to show up

bac to the steelars if big has ben retire they arent much at all but if he stays and that substance receiva come back and you know who I talkin about u relly think we gonna finish ahead of em?

 

Bro, l think you need a tutor to help you take some grammar lessons. This is horrible bud. How can we understand you what your writing? 

T Jernigan and 2nd round pick
for R Sherman

Not happening because one we already signed Brandon Carr and two Sherman cap hit is 13M and we don't have space for that.

2 hours ago, redlobster said:

Jernigan + a 2nd

For

Richard Sherman

 

I'll see myself out.

 

Actually Jernigan for a high 4th would be ok with me.

If we didn't sign Brandon Carr, than l would love to get Sherman but even that we don't have the space for Sherman since his cap number is very high. 13M cap hit for both of his final two years of his contract. 

On 3/30/2017 at 9:36 AM, Bat-mite said:

They keep talking about surrounding Flacco with the talent he needs, but where are they? At the moment, we have no O-line and a shortage of receivers. We had better have one heckuva good draft!

To be honest, it wasn't really any spectacular players that was in free agency this year that was offensive players anyway. It was mostly a bunch of 30+year old receivers that was close to be at the end of his prime or had question marks. 

8 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I do agree with this, but if not for Cundiff and Evans, we likely win it all in 11' guided by Flacco.

In 14' though, that playoff game was in the bag and Flacco chucked up an unneeded bomb when we were running it down their throats and they couldn't stop us. Had we let KO and Yanda continue to leave the way we would have ended that game. 

The 2011 season should've been a Super Bowl championship for the Ravens l agree on that, but the 2014 season, l sorta kinda glad we lost. Even though we probably would been in the Super Bowl again that year in 2014, l think we would've lost against Seattle because our secondary was so banged up and filled with injures that l feel it would be tough to overcome against a mobile QB in Russell Wilson. The injures will get up to them in the Super Bowl. 

I can see them as a playoff team this year, but in 2018 l could really see them as a Super Bowl contender. With over 30M+ in cap space which we will have next offseason, we could be focus on uprading the offense more in free agency. We already upgraded the defense this year so if we upgrade the offense next year, it could be scary for everybody. 👍

  2 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

This is related to Jernigan...and I know people will disagree with this, but just putting it out there.
Having said all that about Tabor as a possible 2nd round pick in the comment below.......
I 100% believe that Brandon Carr is a great addition. And I think he'll be with us for at least 2 years....In which case it's tough to spend a 2nd round pick on a corner when you have Jimmy, Tavon, and Brandon. Their styles all compliment each other so well too. Imo, this draft is too loaded to not fill large needs with the first few picks, because we can do so without really straying from bpa at the same time.
Imo, in addition to reading a lot of our comments all the time, I would say that at least 2/3 of our die hard fans are looking for a Pass Rusher very early for sure, then we're all also looking for a WR and Olineman. With some sprinkled cries for a RB. Which makes sense. Then we all want a cb, and the reasons for that are obvious. We don't even need to go there, but I think the addition of Carr has pushed that need down the line a little for some..SO, what am I getting at with all of this???? Combine those needs, with this Loaded draft, with this- I know a lot of fans don't agree, but I think we are right there with anyone. Roster wise at least. Our coaches- if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all right? So after this draft, I think our Roster will be just as talented as the Patriots, if not a hair more- we need to Land Ross or Davis for the more to happen.
So with all these needs, and being so close, if we moved Timmy for a 2nd or 3rd, we could fill an immediate need, for cheap, for now and years. Without creating a need as well. We have so many awesome bodies up front that need to be on the field. I like Timmy, but I also want to see Carl Davis, Urban, Pierce for sure, Willie Henry, Kufasi, and then of course BWill is holding down the middle. That's a ton of bodies. And in all honesty, I like Timmy as a player. but I think he's a little overrated. And I'm not even sure if there'd be a drop off from him, to the rest of the guys I listed- again, just my opinion. We have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds right now. If we added another low 2, or high 3 to that, we really could fill all our needs. I would bet anything that at least a handful of pro bowl players go in the 3rd this year. People that would normally go at the top of the 2nd.
So all in all, the chances are he stays with us. But I definitely think there plenty of reasons to trade him. If, we could get a second or a 3rd, I don't think a 4th would be worth it.

So, if you read all of that, here's my take quick take on how we could "fill all our of needs", with our 5 picks in the first 3 rounds ( 1 from Timmy).
Round 1- Barnett- Edge Rusher, and potential future Sizzle replacement
Round 2 D'Onta Foreman- 234lb rb that just ran a 4.5. Him paired with Dixon for Years would be a thing of beauty.
Round 2/3-Tiimy Pick- Ju Ju Smith- WR- the Ravens better draft this guy, he's exactly what we need
Round 3- Pat Elfein- Our awesome Center for the next 10 years
Round 3- I'll let Ozzie pick the Right Tackle ( wink emoji)

Again just throwing this out there. This draft is nuts

I like your mock but but we be missing out on those top corners. If we decided to wait until the 4th Round to draft a corner, most of the good ones will be already gone and Ozzie miss out.

I hope KC is ready to be the best player he could be. I would also like to see if KC can change his number to 56 because that number would look good on him. Jefferson should've gotten 23. It would've been cool to have Mosley 57 and KC 56 while Weddle 32 and Jefferson 23. 👍 If KC is not ready and somehow Zach Brown still available after the draft, it could be wise to take a look because l don't think it counts as a Comp pick signing l believe at that time. Not exactly sure if that's how it goes, but l remember that Jamison Hensley say something about that in one of his espn articles.

I wouldn't mind getting Q back here. I would just wait to sign him after the draft because we might draft one in the first round.

Is it just me or does Jabrill Peppers kinda look like Torrey Smith and Terrance West a little bit.

I would be extremely upset if we get another TE. We honestly don't need one at this moment. We have too many as of now on our roster and we may have to cut at least two TE's before the season starts. The only reason we have that many to begin with was because of Pitta health.

Who gives a rats what Weddle has to say. I'm not falling for any more hype job. I'll be the judge of how great the secondary is after I see them on the field. Can Jimmy Smith be better than average and stay healthy, would Carr be different from the guy Cowboy fans call "used carr", would Tony Jefferson impress? Time would tell, but there is no need to prematurely get our hopes up with rubbish talk of 'greatest secondary' when they've shown us nothing.

Dude calm down... sheesh. Take a breather. It seems you are filled with rage.

21 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Zach brown is great and all - but he's old and expensive...

I wouldn't say old he's 27, but maybe a little expensive. Either Miami or Oakland will get him. He would've been a good replacement for Orr though. 👍

4 minutes ago, The Beak said:

Oz is not going to sign any FAs until after the draft , no way he is parting with anymore Comp picks...

Yeah l know that. That what Ozzie does. I just wishing we could get Zach Brown that's all. Just dreaming. 👍

1 hour ago, RayRayRaven said:

no jus sayin have nevah been high on jerigan. nevah once. like joey flex says he bout dissapears afta a play or to. he has no gas tank.  this post was bout gettin somethin for him an tho joey is dead wrong on allen hurns we need him ill tell ya what hurns has that joe really really really needs. hurns can seperate in a ny minute which is 2 secons.  ur fine to not like my trade but hurns had 10tds two yrs back and was beat up all yr last.  but heres ya question why do the jags have all these ball catchas and we doan?

No offense but can you spell because your grammar is way off in most of the post l seen you. Or you just writing that way just for fun? It's kinda hard for me to understand your post sometimes. 

  4 hours ago, b93333 said:

Weddle is clearly the Ravens best free agent signing since "Q" or maybe SSS. Anyone have a clue why the FO hasn't released Watson yet to free up more cap space? Is it the way the contract is structured... maybe after 6/1?

Why cut someone when you don't have to? If the Ravens needs more cap space to sign someone, then they will act accordingly and I can see Watson & Arrington being cut to make the necessary space. It's not like cutting him would give us enough space to get Zach Brown, AP or another one of the top remaining guys. Ozzie will probably wait until the June 1st or pre-season cuts to sign any other FA. A lot can happen in OTAs as far as injuries go. With Pitta, Gillmore and all the other TE injury histories, it doesn't make since to dump what could be a cheap quality TE (that you can't replace for $3 million per) unless you have to.

I really wish we could get Zach Brown l really wish. If it's one more free agent that l wish we could get it be him but he probably likely sign with Oakland or Miami because nobody else is interested. All well. l guess we are tight against the cap and Ozzie don't want to lose a Comp pick l guess. 😔

12 minutes ago, sizzlingdoom said:

Right on. I completely agree with that 3rd paragraph.
The only thing I see screwing up the Pass Rush and Wr combo for the first 2 rounds, in any order, is if our FO falls in love with a lineman. Like Cam Robinson per say. I hope it's not the case

I agree. Ozzie is good finding late gems of o-line in the middle rounds. I believe he found Marshal Yanda in the 3rd round and Wagner in the 5th, and many other decent ones. We could also find and o- line in free agency as well to help us out or during the cuts later on. We could just sign a o-lineman to a one year deal then find a better replacement next season.

10 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

I'm not sure we'd have to trade back in to the 2nd to grab a good corner - there's loads of good ones I'm projecting falling into the 3rd and even maybe 4th and other better ones I could see falling

all the guys I could see falling to the 3rd/4th of the top of my head: Moreau and awuzie maybe and then Wilson, Desmond king, tankersley, Witherspoon, kazee, elder

Yeah your right. 👍 Wouldn't mind either way. But if they want Sidney Jones, then they probably would have to do it that way if he somehow slips. I don't know if he will make it past the 3rd round. 

1 minute ago, Halshayeji said:

 

We actually would have 43 mil if Mosley isn't included. Also realistically, the draft picks and FA we get are also gonna dip into that number but we still have a solid 30 mil and a lil more if we free up some.

i also agree on the Mosley part. We shouldn't wait till it's too late to extend his contract. I don't think he has anything else left to prove he's a keeper.

Wow cool. That's is pretty scary with around 30M in cap space next offseason. We'll be very dangerous in 2018. 👍

53 minutes ago, sizzlingdoom said:

Maybe. Maybe not. It would mean that 18 that are selected in the second that would go in the first in other drafts. I believe that's pretty accurate. Some drafts are pretty awful and really teeter off big time even after the first 10 players or so. I could go into greater detail about it and bring up a lot of specific players, but that would take a while. But just one player specifically-
Ju Ju Smith. After Corey Davis, I sincerely feel that Smith is the best wr in this class. I believe that he is better than Mike Williams right now, and long term. And because there's so much talent in this draft, I haven't seen Smith mocked in the first round once. It's super interesting as well that almost all their measurables are almost exactly the same. From size, to 40, to bench, to broad jump. Everything. Ju Ju has bigger hands though. I think Ju Ju is elite is just about every category, except for his 40 time. But it's the same as Williams. Smith's character and drive is top notch as well. I think Ju Ju Smith is a 20 year old version of Q that is probably more gifted athletically than Q ever was.
Smith is exactly what we need. EXACTLY. Short term and long term. He would pair so perfectly with Perriman. I hope the FO recognizes that. Considering none of these guys went in the first, and they were all exactly what we needed, and still need, it was incredibly painful for me to watch us not select them in the draft- Jarvis Landry, Keenan Allen, Michael Thomas, and Sterling Shepard. Just to name a few.
I'm very aware that we operate by the theory of "BPA" in the draft. But I just can't help but think how perfect this start would be for us in terms of need and BPA together-
Round 1: Barnett or Taco or Takk
Round 2: Ju Ju Smith

I know everyone has there own opinions. But I give the FO an "A" for Free Agency. For sure. And it's still not over.
If we could add Barnett and Ju Ju to our team, and others..............my excitement and anticipation levels for the season would be out of control. I know we would be ready. I'm already ridiculously stoked thinking our D

I like your idea and l like Ju Ju as well but l also want one of those top corners. I wonder can we trade back in the second round and get a top corner. I really want Ozzie to be aggressive in this draft. My dream scenario, sign Zach Brown. l wish that Ozzie was interested but doubtful. He deciding between Oakland and Miami right now and he wants 6M a year but he's still on the market. I wish we could give a 3 year 18M deal but it might be too much l guess. Then 1st round draft Derek Barnett, 2nd round Juju Smith, then trade back in the 2nd round a grab a corner Sidney Jones or Desmond King. Might have to give up a 3rd rounder and maybe a 4th but l think it's worth it. I don't know the details though if that deal were so sort of happen. Desmond King is a playmaker at corner and can be at safety so when Eric Weddle is gone in the future, he could take that safety spot or taking Sidney Jones. He might miss half the season on the PUP list, but we could afford to do that because we got Carr and then we could let him slowly contribute to the defense in the middle of the season. That's is 3 decent players in the top 100 that l'm will be happy for. 👍

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

I can't see Mosley being allowed to actually play on that 5th year option and even have a chance to get to free agency - I think he'll be signed next off season which will obviously hit that figure hard - I didn't realise we're likely to have that much space though - that's crazy

Is it really true that we'll have around 35M in cap space next offseason? Imagine have that much cap space with an already improved defense. That money can be used to upgrade the offense next year. 2018 might be a big year for us. But it's hard for me to believe that we will have that much cap space. 

16 hours ago, Deflated Football said:

Jags aren't stupid enough to swap a 3rd or 4th with us though. Robinson is borderline elite and had ridiculous stats two seasons ago playing with Blake the Bum. Imagine him with Flacco. I'd gladly send them Timmy, our second, and a later round pick for Robinson and a 5th/6th or maybe both (assuming we have them. Not sure what our draft picks look like). I'd rather pay Robinson than Jernigan anyways. Him and Breshad would be lethal and we wouldn't have to worry about the WR corps for a while. Draft Malik McDowell as his replacement (assuming we trade back and get an extra 2nd). 

Idk man. Can we pay Robinson next year is the question in order for this deal to work. You know we also have to pay Mosley as well. I don't see it happening.

1 hour ago, Deflated Football said:

Wishful thinking, but what if we sent Jernigan, a 1st or 2nd and one or two comp picks for Allen Robinson (if they're really interested in Timmy) and a couple of their picks? 

I like the idea of trading Allen Robinson for Jernigan but not trading our 1st or 2nd if the Jags are interested. Swap picks in the 3rd or 4th round will do but we also will have to pay Robinson top dollar next year because he will be a UFA just like Jernigan so l don't know how it's gonna work out. 

  1 hour ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  12 hours ago, hen826957 said:

I heard that Timmy Jernigan is on the trading block. Or thinking about trading him since they can't afford him next year. http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/3/24/15050162/michael-lombardi-says-the-ravens-are-talking-about-trading-timmy-jernigan-nfl-draft-brandon-williams

If that's true, and there was any to get a second round pick in this draft for him, I'd do it.

I was thinking the same thing, but I don't know if there is a team out there that would give us a second for Tim. But a guy can dream can't he. Its very Bill Belichickesque

A 3rd rounder is fine because it will always us to trade back in the second round to get another player. That way, we could get two 2 round guys. We will have multiple picks then in the 3rd round to do it.