5 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

You've forgotten Matt judon, Brent urban and willie henry who all figure to play big roles this year

Yeah well on passing situations you can some something like that :

 

Bowser/Correa - Mosley

Suggs/Judon - Henry/Kaufusi/Z Smith - Urban/Wormley - T.Williams/Z.Smith

 

Its kinda scary all the versatility Pees is going to have. You can plug everyone everywhere.

6 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Still pumped my guy is actually a Raven. Not a typical Ravens type of guy but I'm glad they've seemingly adjusted and took a player built for today's NFL. I'm still a full believer that he's Jamie Collins 2.0

The comp is really really good. I was very high on him as well. Have you seen his bowl game ? He was shadowing Dalvin Cook in man to man duties step for step ? This guy is so underated. If he wasnt injured he could have topped the 12 sacks and he's underated as a covering LB. He'll be VERY good covering RBs/TEs. This is what this league is all about now. Gotta me able to cover and blitz from everywhere.

I LOVE the pick. Probably the best Pass Rush specialist of the draft. They'll plug in only on passing situations early on. I just hope he can get his head straight. Drugs problems, had a gun I don't like that but he's got talent. Can be a 12-15 sacks type of guy

To be honest he is exactly what the Ravens needed. I don't get the hate.

 

Webb - Weddle

Jefferson - Mosley - Bowser

Suggs/Z Smith/ - Pierce/Davis - Williams - Wormley/Kaufusi

and on passing downs you can kick Wormley inside.... He moves so well he's a great fit for our defense

 

Jefferson was the best safety/LB last year for the run % stop. He's such a good tackle. This is some scary front 7 imo. And thats only when playing the run. I havent't used the pass rushers yet for the passing situations/Nickle/Dime

 

7 hours ago, Caliravenlover said:

Maybe Cook but not Mixon too much Character concerns and Also Cook does have injuries issues. I am just upset that Davis never got to us :'(

Cook has got some trouble off the field as well.. You gotta keep him on a leash

 

Looks like Barnett is this year Bosa. Some people don't like him at all. Imo Barnett is a day 1 starter. His progression since he entered college is what you wanna see from a prospect. He's always progressing and getting better. He got as many sacks as Garett when playing againt Good teams. I would draft him in a heartbeat at 16

 

and he's like 20 years old he's got so much rooom to get better/improve

With the 68th pick of the draft, the Jags are proud to select, Safety Josh Jones

With pick #61, the Packers are proud to select, Adam Shaheen, TE. 

NFL MOCK DRAFT 2017. (2.0)

 

First of all, I want to say I didn’t really have time this year to be active (building a house, first baby is born) but I still followed the draft as usual. I don’t have time to explain in depth every picks I made but I’ll just say EACH of my picks are made after a bunch of info I gathered and I didn’t make these picks to please anyone. I have my own method each season to analyze the team needs and I’ll stay true to my methodology. I will pick the players I think the teams would pick, not the players I would pick or there won’t be a QB in the first round (and once again sorry If I made English mistakes)

 

1.    Cleveland Browns :                                                            Myles Garrett (Edge)

I know there are some speculations that the Browns staff want Trubisky with that pick, but at the end of the day they got to go with their headcoach and he wants Garrett. Thanks to their moneyball approach, the Browns were able to land a handful of picks that could come handy…. (Previous pick : Myles Garrett)

 

2.    San Francisco 49ers :                                                         Jamal Adams (Safety)

This one here is kinda hard to decipher. The 49ers have some many needs and they could trade down but at the end of they day I think they’ll stay at 2 and take their RB to fit with Shanahans scheme in the later rounds.  The 49ers tried to put rumors out saying they are interested in Fournette, I think  this is a smokescreen to try to make the Jags or Panthers trade up. In Shanahan schemes, there are plenty of RBs that can be successful, theres no point to get one at this spot. (Previous pick : Jamal Adams)

 

3.    Chicago Bears :                                                                   Marshon Lattimore (CB)

I know the Bears are high on Kizer and they would love to draft him but at #3 it’s a reach imo and he should probably be there with their next pick at 36^th. I just get the feeling they’ll try to go up from 36 back in the end of the first round to grab Kizer. In Lattimore they get a VERY good player. There are some rumors the Bears are interested in Trubisky, once again I think they’d like to trade down at 12 with so many needs on the roster. Let’s face it, outside of Garrett, Adams the picks from 4 to 15 are pretty similar in terms of talent

(Previous pick : Marshon Lattimore)

 

4.    Jacksonville Jaguars :                                                         Leonard Fournette (RB)

This pick right here might surprise some people but I think this is a typical Coughlin type of move. I had them with S. Thomas but they got C. Campbell and the best way to help Bortles is with a solid running game. The Jags have one of the best defensive team on paper, they can afford to pick Fournette with this pick. There is some info around the league that Coughlin wants to bring back the Power I formation so Fournette is the ideal fit. I think O.J. Howard would make a lot of sense here as well. His stock is on the rise he’s a very clean prospect. (Previous pick : S. Thomas)

 

5.    Cleveland Browns (trade from Titans for 1^st(12^th )+ (2^nd) 52th + 3^rd (65^th) vs 1^st(5^th) + 3^rd (83th)                                                                              Mitch Trubisky (QB)

There it is. The Titans are high on Mike Williams and he’ll be there at 12^th so why not trade down ? In this draft the players from 35 to 65 are pretty much interchangeable so the Titans get some more picks.  I’m pretty sure the Titans are going WR and CB with their first rounders, I don’t know the order but that wouldn’t surprise me. By moving to 5^th right in front of the Jets, the Browns get the player their staff wanted. There are some rumors of the Jets interesting in a QB so the Browns had to move. (Previous pick : Trubisky to Browns)

 

6.    New-York Jets :                                                                   Patrick Mahomes (QB)

This right here is a bomb. I know the Jets had some private meetings with Mahomes. They were hard on Trubisky but once they heard all the love the Browns had for Trubisky the Jets started to get on the Mahomes bandwagon. I don’t really agree with the pick right now but if there’s a surprise pick in 2017, this is Mahomes. He’s the type of player every coach think they can mold into a superstar because he’s got the skills but needs coaching (mechanic, reading defenses …). I really think this year Mahomes is going to get drafted higher than everybody thinks. (Previous pick : Mahomes)

 

7.    Los Angeles Chargers                                                        Malik Hooker (Safety)

I just think this is a fit right here. They could go front 7 and boost their D-Line. Wouldn’t surprise me if they go Jonathan Allen here but with Ingram, Bosa they can get some pretty good pass rush now they need someone in the back of the defense to make some plays. (Previous pick : Hooker)

 

8.    Carolina Panthers                                                              Christian McCaffrey (RB)

Well in my first mock I thought there were going to use their pick on Fournette, he would made sense but at the end of the day I heard a lot of talk of McCaffrey and Hooker stock on the rise a lot. Rumors have McCaffrey going in the top 10… its gotta be at 8^th for the Panthers. I mean they go a solid pass rush and front 7 and in their schemes DBs will make plays. Now Cam needs some help. 10-12 runs and 7-8 receptions per game this guy is a stud. Stop the R. Bush comps its not close.

(Previous pick : Fournette)

 

9.    Cincinnati Bengals                                                             Solomon Thomas (5 tech/DE)

Once again the Bengals find a way to get a very good player who fell a bit in Thomas. He’s a very explosive prospects with clean traits but I think some people were hyping him a bit much after the combine. I think he’s very good but he’s not the perfect fit for the teams ahead so the Bengals get a player who was mocked in the top 5 a lot fall to them.  I know there were big Fournette’s fan but with him gone, gotta stay to the board.

 

 

 

10.  Buffalo Bills                                                                        O.J. Howard (TE)

Well the Bills could go QB here and it wouldn’t shock lots of people but I don’t think theu will. I think they’ll let T. Taylor one more shot. S. Watkins need help. I think the best pass catcher available in this year draft and its not even close is Howard. My god this kid is a superstar and mark my words in the right system he’s a 1000 yards TE. He should have entered the draft last year but Alabamas got him back telling him he’ll be the main part of their offense. They had to fire L. Kiffin he only got 10 more receptions this year. He wasn’t use well at all in my mind. He can block he can catch the ball. Bills fan won’t be happy with this pick but he is the right pick. (Previous pick : Howard)

 

11.  New-Orleans Saints                                                                      Derek Barnett (Edge)

I see some big needs for the Saints  : edge, CB and WR. I think lots of WRs can be effective in the Saints schemes so they HAVE to go defense early. I know they’ve got a deal in place for Malcom Butler (contract) but the Pats aren’t interested in trading him. It could happen if a could player fall to 32 and the Pats would like to pick (Previous pick : D. Barnett)

 

12.  Tennessee Titans (from Browns)                                               Mike Williams (WR)

I see two BIG needs for the Titans. I know there are rumors of them trading down again this year and man this will get scary in a few years. They get 3 more pick in the top 70this season they’ll have to be contenders in the near future. At 12^th I think it’s a bit early to go CBs. I have Lattimore my best CB but with his soft tissue issues he could slide a bit. One player who lots of GMs seem to love is Humphrey but looks like everyone is sleeping on him so they could get him at 18^th. Lots of teams could use Williams so they have to pick him now. Mariota needs some help and the sure catcher Williams is the answer here. (Previous pick : M. Williams)

 

13.  Arizona Cardinals                                                              DeShaun Watson (QB)

Once again I think some people will make a run on QBs (early first) and on O-Line (In the teens). The 2 draft weakest positions. Arians is a good coach. They scouted QBs a LOT this year I think they didn’t like C. Palmer retirement rumors. They have a solid team they could try to get Fitz replacement but I think their need for a QB with Arians confidence he can coach once is a dangerous combo here. I’m not Watson biggest fan but he’s got the intangibles. The guy is a winner. Who much was Williams to him ? Is it like Evans/Manziel ? We’ll find out soon enough (Previous pick : Watson)

 

14.  Philadelphia Eagles                                                                      John Ross (WR)

Well I was a big fan of McCaffrey to the Eagles. A team can’t have so many weapons on offense and not be successful. T. Smith, Jeffery, J. Matthews. To help a young QB you have to give him weapons. Do you guys know what went wrong last year with Wentz ? Maybe he got tired a bit but you guys should take a look at Wentz stats with L. Johnson in the lineup and his stats with L. Johnson not playing. This is the difference maker right here and they have to keep him up. If I was on the Eagles F.O, I would go Lamp right here, but they use so many resources and efforts to scout WRs, you can’t throw away so many dollars for nothing. I keep hearing some names for the Eagles but the player I keep hearing they love is Ross. I think Conley was their pick but with the rape rumors (which seemed to be fake) he might slide a bit.  I heard the Eagles were the only team to request the initial Police Report of Conleys rape incident. I know they were in contact a lot to know what happened… but I think every draft there’s a WR who goes higher because of his speed. This year isn’t the exception. With J. Matthews on his last contract year and Jeffery on a 1 year contract, they need to build for the futur (Previous pick : McCaffrey)

 

15.  Indiannapolis Colts                                                           Jonathan Allen (DE/DT)

Well the Colts need are pretty simple : LB. They added a lot of pass rushers in the offseason. I think they were SO hard on Foster but with the diluated simple, the combine scuffle I know he’s going to fall. There were rumors at Alabama of Foster’s drugs problems so that’s why I think the diluated sample is a big blow when you compare him and Peppers. Peppers is a clean guy but Foster not so much there are rumors flying. He’s such a gifted player but his circle around him is toxic. His head isn’t straight. The Colts scouted Alabama more than anyone so they saw it. When I watch Alabamas tape I think Allen who flashes the most with Foster. He made the job so easy on lots of other guy this kid’s got talent. I know there are some injury concerns with his shoulder but I don’t think he’ll fall that much longer. He’s a top 5 talent so the Colts gotta stay to the boards and it fits a need here with A. Jones out. If it wasn’t for Allen available I would go on Lamp here but I heard the Colts are very HIGH on Feeney and Dawkins if they last until the 2^nd round. It’s very hard for me not to mock Foster here…. (Prevous pick : Foster)

 

16.  Baltimore Ravens                                                           Corey Davis (WR)

Well I think the Ravens could shock the NFL world once again and go with Lamp. Typcal Ozzies pick and I’ll put my trust in him. With Davis on the board I think I would have picked him but there are rumors out there of the Ravens in love with some 2rd or 3th round WRs and they wouldn’t go WR in the first. Let’s face it Lamp just fills a big void on the Ravens O-Line and history proved us you can’t win with bad O-Line play. Still I think the Ravens putted so much effort to create smokescreens around Davis and everything. They just have such a big need at WR. I think this is a very bad O-Line class and they might not have a chance to pick one later so they could go Lamp/Zay Jones or Juju. Still Davis is very good. With Foster on the board he could very well be their pick, Ozzie know him probably better than anyone but if the Raven pass on Foster, it could be a long night for him. That would send a big message because Sabban was probably very honest with Ozzie. (Previous pick : Davis)

 

17.  Washington Redskins                                                       Haason Reddick (LB)

The name I keep hearing lately that is the most on the rise is Reddick. He’s such a good fit right here for the Redskins he can’t fall that much longer. They are building a fun team and Reddick fits a big need right here.

 

18.  Tennessee Titans                                                              Marlon Humphrey (CB)

Well I heard some teams are very high on Humphrey. He would fit here with the Titans. They fill their 2 biggest need in the first round and got lots of other picks coming. (Previous pick : Conley)

 

19.  Tampa Bay Buccaneers                                                    David Njoku (TE)

This right here is such a good fit.  With D. Martin drugs issues last year they could go runningback but I’m not the biggest fan of drafting RB in the first round unless he’s a sure thing. I know the Bucc are very high on Njoku and they like to throw the ball 50 times a game. He’s such an amazing playing to watch so the Florida product won’t have to move that far. (Previous pick : D.Cook)

 

20.  Denver Broncos                                                                 Forrest Lamp (G/T)

I think the Broncoss like Bolles but with Lamp still on the board they have to pick him. This is where the run on O-Line player will start and some teams might trade up in the end of the first to get one. I think the Ravens (with the extra 3^rd) are one of those team. (Previous pick : Lamp)

 

21.  Detroit Lions                                                                                  Takkarist Mckinley (Edge)

This right here is such a good fit. They worked a lot of McKinley they brought him on a visit, talked with him at the combine. They need to bolster their D-Line and Takk is a relentless player. I’m not the biggest fan of UCLA defensive player in the NFL but he’s got a great motor and I think he could be very good

 

22.  Miami Dolphins                                                                 J. Willis (edge)

It’s so easy to mock them J. Davis. Fits a need, playing in Florida. With Foster still on board he could be the pick. As much as I think he will he’s so gifted. The Miami proved last year there aren’t afraid to pick players with off the field flags and Tunsil was very good late in the season but with the contract to Alonzo they might be looking to add a guy at the opposite of C. Wake and Willis has been linked to the Dolphins A LOT. He might be a bit of a reach but at this point he won’t last much longer (Previous pick : T.J. Watt)

 

23.  New-York Giants                                                               Ryan Ramczyk (OT)

Well the Giants O-line isn’t great. I know there were real high on Njoku but gotta help Eli here and the Giants get a good LT in Ramczyk. (Previous pick : Ramczyk)

 

24.  Oakland Raiders                                                                Gareon Conley (CB)

The Oakland bandits. They still need that good CB to help their team and Conley fall stop right there. Sure they could go T. White if they want some playmaking guy but Conley is underated corner and I think the Raiders like him. (Previous pick : Njoku)

 

25.  Houston Texans                                                                T.J. Watt (OLB)

I just had to do it. He’s not that big of a need but there’s a big hole to fill at outside LB for the Texans. They could go C. Robinson here but what QB will he protect ? Next year will be better for QB or OT so pick the right guy here, make their fans/team happy and build for next year. (Previous pick : C. Robinson)

 

26.  Seattle Seahawks                                                              Cam Robinson (RT/G)

I know its easy to mock them K. King. Its also easy to make them Melifonwu because I heard they LOVE him. But at the end of the day have you seen the right side of their offensive line ? That is atrocious. (Previous pick : K. King)

 

27.  Kansas City Chiefs                                                            Sydney Jones (CB)

This pick right here is hard to make for me. They could go Foster, they could go J. Davis but in their division, you can’t have too many corners. White paired with Peters is kinda scary. That’s some playmaking right there. I really don't think S. Jones will fall the much he's so gifted at attacking the ball (Previous pick : T. White)

 

28.  Dallas Cowboys                                                                 Adoree’ Jackson (CB)

Well its  a fit I think. They need some edge presence but they also need CB. I keep hearing his name in the first round and right now I think CB is such a big need for them. He’s a gifted athlete that teams love. Dallas draft very well and he could be a gamechanger. Some teams have him in their top-15-20 on their board and I keep reading how the Cowboys LOVE him. (Previous pick : T. Charlton)

 

29.  Baltimore Ravens (from Packers for 47^th and 74^th pick)         Garret Bolles (OT)   

I know this is very unlikely but with two 3^rd round picks, and the Ravens might want to address their offense right away this year. They draft a few pass rushers last few years and maybe they’ll give Z. Smith, Correa, Judon a chance to prove them wrong before they try to get another one early. They scouted some later rounds Pass rushers so maybe that’s a good indication of them not going pass rusher early. I’m a defense guy and every draft I want to see the Ravens draft defense with the first 2 picks but as much as you want to draft BPA this offense is horrible and they added some nice part on defense this offseason. When the fans will hear the Ravens trade up everyone will get upset they didn’t take Foster. The Ravens F.O showed they aren’t afraid to draft older player (Pitta, Kaufusi). Bolles isn’t the most powerful but he’s so athletic and he’s got a nasty edge. They could still keep their pick and wait for Dawkins or Feeney but maybe they fell in love with Bolles. I believe the Packers want J. Mixon and they could target him in the 2nd (Previous pick : Packers Sydney Jones)

 

30.  Pittsburgh Steelers                                                           Obi Melifonwu (Safety)

Shazier is gone, will the Steelers get Foster ? This is it for me Foster is out of the first round. That’s a shocker and I know I’ll get no love for this but this is my feeling. The Steelers need upgrade to replace Mitchell (Previous pick : Peppers).

 

31.  Atlanta Falcons                                                                  Charles Harris (Edge)

The Falcons have a solid team. They need some help at the opposite of  Beasley and Harris is a fit here. (Previous pick : Harris)

 

32.  New-England Patriots (from Saints for M. Butler)                                           R. Foster (LB)

The Saints need CB help very bad. Some solid CBs are off the board at this point and Butler would be the best option probably. They have an agreement in place for a contract but the Pats want to keep Butler. Well that was before Foster was available. Just making this pick is scary and the Pats will be another force next year. (Previous pick : Saint J. Ross)

 

+++D. Cook and some LBss out of the first round. Cook has some off the field issues and graded poorly at the combine and some teams put a big emphasis on the combine I think this sounds crazy but what would be a Mock Draft if we all have the same players in the first ? I know I had the LBs fell a bit but there are some very good underated LBs in this year draft. Some teams will strick in the 2rd-3^rd. +++ I keep hearing teams love E. Wood, McMillan. If I made some mistakes I'm sorry I'm so tired right now 

 

RAVENS DRAFT :

           

They traded their 2^nd and 74^th (3^rd ) so…

 

Round 3. - 78^th pick : Tanoh Kpassagnon (5 tech). I would kinda be surprise to see him still available at this spot because lots of team love his athletic abilities. I know lots of team scouted him but for some reason the Ravens always seem to find a way to get a guy who fall a bit in the later rounds. He would be such a fit for the Ravens

 

Round 4. - 122th pick : Chase Roullier (C/G). I don’t remember who mocked him to the Ravens lately but this is a typical Ozzi pick and I had him in my first mock as well. He would fit a need and He’s a very underated player. I believe he will got a lot higher than the experts say because team are in love with him but aren’t saying a word. Let’s hope the Ravens can get him.

 

Round 5. – 159^th pick : Trey Hendrickson (edge). Once again the Ravens are true to their board and pick the BPA. The way he played at the Shrine bowl he can go as high as 3^rd round. He will learn from Sizzle

 

Round 6. – 186^th pick :  Channing Stribling (CB). Big body CB to play outside with some upside. Jim had some good words and he’s the reason the Ravens draft him. Pass happy league you need some CBs. I don’t think the Ravens go RB with their picks might try to sign some UDFA after. Dixon is a beast and they love him. They could also try to sign a FB after the draft.

 

 

 

 

 

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

Guys with cannon arms fail to make it in the league on a yearly basis - especially guys with imperfect mechanics (like Kelly)

Well if you wanna talk about mechancis, Mahomes isn't in the mix and shoudlt be drafter before round 3. Peterman, Webb and Kaaya will go before them.

At the end of the day coaches think they can coach the mechanics but a kid can't learn the skills. This is a very bad QB class and some have Kaaya best rated QB... because of the touch he puts in his ball to drop it between the safety and LB its a thing of beauty. Some really love Webb I'm not the biggest fan... Peterman looks the more ready imo but he's not Pro Bowl material. Kizer should have stayed in college. Watsons got some intangibles but the reality is : teams shoudlnt draft a QB before Pick 33th. 

The thing about Williams he catches the ball with such ease AWAY from his body and in traffic. Thats what the Ravens need. But I like Davis speed a lot and their body are similar. Jeremiah posted a video of Davis (because we don't know his true 40) but he outrace a CB (who ran a 4,4/4-5) and it was not even close. The Ravens also need a guy who can can separation and just get lots of yards from a simple Slant, hook or things like that. Most of the team, Ravens WR outside of Steve Smith couldnt break a tackle just like Antonio Brown or OBJ would do. I think right now Davis has the edge because he's a bit more dynamic. 

If, for some reason Marlon Humphrey is still there at 30 for the Steelers... he's their pick. If not  T.J Watt or Carl Lawson. Well thats according to this site :

http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/22/historic-trends-suggest-steelers-will-draft-cb-marlon-humphrey-in-round-1/

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Assuming these trends continue in 2017, Pittsburgh will draft a 21-year old junior with at least two years experience as a starter and with a high SPARQ score. He will come from a well-ranked school within a power five conference and will have met the Steelers at his pro day or in Pittsburgh.

Using these criteria on the players the Steelers have been connected with this offseason, it is hard to find a name that fits these trends well. Ultimately, this profile type leads us to Alabama cornerback Marlon Humphrey, a player who matches all of the criteria and at a position of need. Names like T.J. Watt and Carl Lawson come close, but Humphrey ticks all the right boxes for Pittsburgh.

nice read

17 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Please explain to me why he is the worst all pro ever. 

Because most of his tackles came from coverage bums or Mosley taking the block on rushing plays so Orr had the tackle in his face. When playing beside a VERY good Mike backer, most of the time the other LB will LOOK good. Remember :

- Ed Hartwell

- Jamie Sharper

- Bart Scott

 

Chad Kelly graded out as one of the best QB ever on Sports Science. He's a very good thrower, probably the best thrower of this year draft but you can't take the mental part of the game away when you judge a player before you draft him. Mike Williams I'm not his biggest fan but I can be easily convinced because I think the Ravens need a sure catcher WR right now. To be honest, my crush for the Ravens would be Zay Jones. Man this guy can catch and they could probably have him with their 2nd or even early 3rd if some teams go on a QBs run or O-Line run since this Oline draft is horrible

Can you edit the first page and post the order and players that are selected ?

 

With the 39th pick of the Draft the New-York J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS select Safety Obi Meliwonfu a steal!

57 minutes ago, Underdogsontop! said:

I'm hoping he makes it to our 2nd pick. If team doctors check him out and he can play this season I could see him going between the 25th-40th range

His medical report just came out.... 4 to 6 months and he's doing very well

With the 29th pick of the Draft... Green Bay Packers select Sydney Jones CB. Splash 

8 hours ago, Maryland said:

#16 is way too early to take a project LB who is too light to play the line every down. That's basically what we have already with Correa.

Ideally he goes to a 4-3 team where he can play will-backer and then rush the passer on obvious passing downs. 

4-3.. 3-4 ... Not of a lot of teams run these typical schemes anymore.

Last 2 years the Ravens played 70-75% Nickle with 3 CBs. Sometimes with 4 on the line, sometimes with 3 on the line. After the halfway of the season last year the Ravens played 4-3 Under VS 2 WRs formations. But at the end of the day a 4-3 Under is kinda similar to the 3-4... except you move your DE a bit more outside to take on the RT so the SAM Backer is against the TE/FB/RB. That scheme is a lot better with SAM like Correa/McClellan. They don't have a 280 pounds SAM (Upshaw) anymore to play against OT. At the end of the day, Reddick can play 4-3 Under, he can play Nickle LB. You can even use him on the line wide 9 Dime package rushing the passer. He's got such a great bend around the corner so you can use him on passing situations. What impressed me the more about Reddick is at the Senior Bowl. The guy just learned a "new" position and was lights out the best player on the field. What we learned at the Senior bowl is the guy is a baller. He can play a stand up role LB. If they wanna play a 3-4 hybrid ? He can bounce inside. If they wanna run a 4-3 Under ? No problem he can play SAM and you bring Jefferson the Will. 

 

I still don't think he'll be the pick at 16, imo I think they'll try to give Correa one more shot at it. They are kinda similar but Reddick is more refined, more NFL ready. We'll see after a complete offseason with NFL training coachs what Correa can do. Thats why I think they'll go more a Sugg/Barnett/Charlton type of player. I think they'll target Pass rushers that can play hands in the dirt on rushing situations as well. Players who are a bit heavier so they could MAYBE even move them to 5 tech. Don't forget there's a need there as well. Maybe they have high hopes for Urban I don't know

7 hours ago, Maryland said:

I'd honestly like to see what Correa or Onwuasor can do at ILB and live with the potentially disastrous result than spend a first round pick on an ILB, especially one with the issues Foster may have. It's a luxury pick when you consider how you can plug in a guy like Orr and get good results thanks to Mosley attracting blockers. 

Anyway lets face it the Ravens don't play typicak 3-4 anymore. They play Nickle 70% of the time so with Mosley you need another LB who can move well and play the run as well as the pass. Thats why I think we might see Jefferson play more LB than we think and Webb back out there with Weddle. Jefferson played some LB snaps as well last year.

and since half of the season last year, the Ravens played 4-3 Under vs 2 WRs formations

I'm really not saying this is the case, but I've been in the football world a long time to know when it can be a problem. Once again I don't know Foster and I'm not saying if this was the case here... but what I learned about Foster is that he tends to make irrational decisions based on certain moods. 

 

And what I've learn over the years with sports players :

Party + alcohol + money = drugs.

Drugs can lead to diluated samples.

I'm not saying this is Foster case, not at all. But he fits the mold and that scares me. Thats why teams wanted to interview him and I heard he had some bad interviews and bad temper. Impulsive people will be impulsive in anything in life. Training, drinking, gambling, working. When you have a pattern of a player not making the right decision because of impulsive behavior, it HAS to raise a red flag. Thats what I brought the tattoo thing. Its useless, but it showed once again an impulsive behavior.

 

Once again he also have some problem with his rotator in his shoulder and might require another surgery. (Just like Shaw Lawson last season). We all know how it went down for Lawson right ? They said pretty much the same thing at the combine. 

 

So when you add the behavior, the health concerns, the impulsive decisions with the diluated sample... thats a lot of red flags. I've heard he could fall as far as 40-50th pick. It would SURPRISE me a lot but last year I was kinda surprise on Myles Jack fall as well. Teams know more than we do.

Solid draft. Very solid. I'm a BIG fan of Chase Roullier. Man I think he could be a real steal. Taywan Taylor is a very good playmaker as well. Very good route runner. Jeremiah scouted him last week and he was pleased with him as well

36 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I disagree he is a top 5 talent he will still likely go before the Ravens pick. If he is there at #16 his name will be on the card. No advisor told him anything he did this on his own. 5 pounds sometimes does mean a lot to a team. It sounds like the drug test is a one and done thing at the combine from what I read. It all just recently came out too and the combine was over a month ago.

My problem isn't only the drug test, but his lifestyle outside the football field. Yes I agree he is a top5-10 talent. Just like Rolando McClain was or maybe Trent Richardson but all of them had a toxic circle of people around them. We are talking about a guy, who's got a big AU tattoo on himself because he committed to Auburn but then changed his mind and joined Alabama. Also a guy who loves to party so unless he proves drastic improvements, I wouldn't draft him in the top 16 pick. Then again, Ozzie is the right guy to make the call, he's got great info coming from Bama I'm just stating my opinion.

1 hour ago, trevorsteadman said:

If you read what the report said via score mobile, he said something along the lines of that he is not a people pleaser, he is a coach pleaser. After a few coaches mentioned him possibly weighing in too small at the combine, he then drank a bunch of water and ate a bunch of food to the point he almost threw up to get a heavier weigh in. 

Luckily Ozzie is in the shoes to get the full reports on him. I think he goes round 1. I would be ecstatic with him at #16. 

Even if he drank 4 gallons of water RIGHT before his test, the tester would see right away his piss is too clear and would ask for a second sample like 1 hour later and he couldnt leave the room. I don't get the I drank lots of water to bulk up, it has no sense. This wouldnt be a failed or positive test, they would just take another test. Sounds to me he drank something to cover something else or he manipulated the sample, which is almost impossible because when you take a test, they need to see your hands at ALL time. Unless this isn't the same at the combine for whatever reasons. Why in the world an adviser would tell a prospect to drink lots of water so he would be a little more heavier (like what 5 lbs ?) if this could result in a failed test, which means a lower draft rank, which means LOT Less millions. Who would spit on millions for 5 lbs ? Teams aren't that stupid. If he was really sick and lost bunch of weight, you tell teams and they weight you at your Visit or Proday or whatever and you normally gain the weight really easily.

 

Thats just a bunch of bullcrap by a liar to me. I wouldn't draft him in the 1st thats for sure

Sydney Jones will not slide that far. He was a sure 1st rounder before his injury. If Jaylon Smith who couldn't play for the entire 2016 season and maybe ever could get drafted high 2nd, I'm sure Sydney Jones is a high 2nd as well. CBs go off the board so quickly these days

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Seems to me only one person here dislikes Barnett, and all but like 2 or 3 more people have a straight up love affair with the guy.

Well I'm sorry I didn't read the entire thread I just read the comments on the first 2 pages and seemed to me he was a very not popular pick here. My mistake