The Raven

If taking an objective look at reality makes me a Debbie Downer, then I'll get Debbie Downer tattooed on my forehead. The reality is that we don't have much reason to be excited about the "plenty of talent" surrounding Joe. Can I just ask what makes you so optimistic about our offense? Other than the oline and running backs? Because that's all we have going for us.

Seconded. I've endured a week long ban once or twice. There was a solid two or three years where I probably carried points more than I didn't have points. Usually for being a snarky jerk and trolling some of the more bizarre or reactionary posters. Yet, the mods let me off the hook an awful lot. And how bout that ole thread. Some old faces there. Always missed the Franchise and Warden in recent years. Good times here.

Then we're done anyway. Same goes for most teams if the QB goes down. Least now we have a defense and potentially an oline that can help us compete.

Dude I was pissed when we passed on him. Furious.

By far my favorite pick. He's a punisher. This is what an offensive lineman is supposed to look like.

I'm heading to @BOLDnPurPnBlacK's board. Maybe I'll pop in at RSR but Bold's is my first pick.

Plenty of talent? Get real. Camp's always hurt. Moore has more drops than catches. Gillmore's always hurt and when he is on the field is too slow to be a viable threat. Maxx is almost always hurt and if he's healthy he's not on the field bc of poor coaching. Boyle is slower than I am and is also suspended half the time. Waller is underused by the coaching staff but also took forever to figure it out. Taliaferro is a back and is always hurt. Urschel had a good rookie year and has done jack since then. So, that leaves Perriman, West, Dixon, and Allen who have been healthy and at least somewhat effective, and three of them play the same position: RB, which isn't the key to unlocking any passing game. And Perriman? Misused and drops too many over the middle passes. Wanna rethink the whole "plenty of talent" crap?

Because of the oline additions, I'm feeling a bit better about the offense this season. A good run game and good pass protection opens up so much for an offense.

Can't yet find any film on him but he sounds, indeed, like a Robert Myers pick. But given the rugby past, he may be more athletic than he seems at 340. I'm intrigued.

Taking a looksie soon

Here's how I might explain his film... SDSU ran some zone, and he's not really quick enough to play zone on the backside. What I've seen so far shows that he can do playside zone blocking and he punishes people on gap, but the scoop blocking from the backside is a weakness.

I'm short on time, but basically, in zone, all the linemen move in the same direction with the goal of sealing their gap. Get to the defenders outside shoulder and cut them off. You want dancing grizzlies. The best example I can think of is Zach Martin. Jeremy Zuttah and Urschel are good examples here. Not all that big and strong but super nimble and can seal guys off. There are intricacies but that's the simple take. I can go more in depth later tonight or tomorrow. With gap/power, you're running through a gap, and defenders basically block their defenders away from that gap. If it's an A gap run to the right side, the center blocks to the left and RG blocks to the right to open the crease in between. You want big nasties. Guys like Nick Mangold, Marshal Yanda, etc.. Super Bowl year we had a solid mix of everything. Lot of inside zone. Some stretch. Some gap.

His pass blocking is really good, too, for a stereotype mauler. Typically big nasties suck at pass pro but not this guy. My take on offensive line has always been to get guys that move people and let them do it with gusto. This guy is a mover.

See, I do have a question. His combine numbers were phenomenal, and as I watch film right now, they did run some zone. I think this is a clear indication -- along with the Alex Lewis pick last year -- that we want to get away from zone. But, I think this is a guy who can be a zone guy sometimes. I think he'd project well as a guard playing in the inside zone. But make no mistake: This guy is a power blocker. We're gonna run Iso and Power for days behind him.

He ain't no zone blocker so that shows a lot about where we're going but holy moly this guy next to Stanley? With Yanda two slots down? We finally have that nasty, mean bully.

Omg guys I think I'm in love with Siragusa

The only downside I see with him is maybe that his frame is maxed out. His hands could be better but so could most guys in college.

Putting him on the edge is a waste of his talent, unless Ozzie has seen stuff that I haven't seen. I haven't seen anything that makes me confident in Bowser as an edge.

Mosley, Correa, and Bowser at LB. Judon and Suggs/Williams at DE. Brandon, Willie Henry, Kaufusi, and Wormley at DT. Yeah, this defense is gonna be good. If Henry and Kaufusi become what I think they will, we're gonna set the team sack record this year.

Tim Williams is the piece the ties everything together. I'm not even going into the details with him. He's just good. He checks off the boxes of what I'm looking for in an edge.

When Ozzie says SAM does he mean a 3-4 SAM or a 4-3 SAM?

Alright, Tyus Bowser. Just watched him against Cincinnati, Memphis, and some of Louisville. Tyus Bowser isn't Von Miller. He's not Kamalei Correa. He isn't Terrell Suggs, and I don't even think he's a full time edge in the NFL. As @terps85 and @rmw10 said first, I see Jamie Collins. He's freakishly athletic, he can cover with the best of em, he's smart, and he has good instincts. He does not, however, have the size or hand use to be a full time edge player. He will get eaten alive on the edge in the NFL. In watching film, there weren't enough snaps where he was even rushing for me to judge his pass rushing fairly, but from what I saw, he just looks fast. That is his only value as a pass rusher. Burst off the line and agility around the edge. Makes for a great blitzer but not a good on the line pass rusher. I know @GrimCoconut says Bowser can disengage, but I personally don't see it. I don't see a guy that uses his hands to disengage from a block and get to the QB. Instead, I see a guy that runs and runs and runs until the lineman loses him. I see Tyus playing Will next to Mosley, blitzing frequently and acting as the spy against guys like Cam Newton. I do think this a good pick. It's good value. He brings a lot to the table. I just don't see him playing the edge, and if Ozzie does, I want to know what he knows. But I also like how he fits in with the guys we have. With DBs like Jefferson, Weddle, and Humphrey who can blitz, and a LB who can cover, I see the potential for a crap ton of truly effective zone blitzes. Bowser is good, but he's even better as a piece of the puzzle, because of what he allows you to do.

Tim Williams is one of very few DL/edge picks that embody that. John Simon, Upshaw, DTs not named Willie Henry and Bronson Kaufusi, and even Paul Kruger had no hand use or burst. Just hustle. Sergio Kindle had both but... We're getting better at it. Judon last year has both. ZDS has hand use, at least. I realize Tim has what I'm looking for, but he's been the outlier.

I wish good hands and quick burst were higher on their pass rusher priority list.

After watching this guy vs Wisconsin, Penn State, and Florida State, I'm not the biggest fan of the pick. As people have said, he has a high floor but I think a very low ceiling. He looks NFL ready to me, but I think he is who he is. He's going to be Lawrence Guy, and that's it. I see nothing more than Lawrence Guy, and I'd like a little more ROI from a 3rd. I think Ozzie sees Pernell McPhee in him. He has the capability to line up at any position -- and he did in college -- but the thing is he's average at each spot. He's strong *enough*, he's quick *enough* on the inside, and his hand use is non existent from what I can see. He has a good punch but it doesn't look like he knows how to disengage. I'm not really seeing anything. If you ask me, this guy would be most viable if he dropped 15-20 pounds to play 4-3 LE (and get some burst back) and then slide inside on third down. Even at his current weight, he's not strong enough to anchor or bull rush in the NFL, and he's too slow to do anything else. If he puts on more weight to anchor and bull, he will lose whatever burst he has. He's a man without a position. Coming from the outside, he wins through effort and hustle. He's a hustle guy through and through. Nothing against that per se, but if you won with hustle in college, how do you expect to win in the NFL?