His size, at 241, would seem to indicate he might be a transition to ILB. Perfect size for the position.
have you looked at his tape? guy's a relentless rusher, crazy motor. Maybe he'd be a guy like McClellan that'll switch between teh two positions but based on his tape i think it'd be best to let him rush. He can gain weight, thats not a huge issue regardless
That's intriguing... having a P who would also specialize in doing kickoffs.
Tucker isn't a slouch at getting touchbacks though. He was top-5 in 2012 and 2014, and that's playing over half his games outdoors.
Anyway, so my post isn't as off-topic:
Baltimore Ravens
Nick Perry SAF Alabama
Darius Allen ILB Colorado State-Pueblo
Trey DePriest LB Alabama
Deandre Carter WR Sacramento State
Brennen Beter DE Michigan
Cory Morrissey LB Iowa State
Blaine Clausell OT Mississippi State
Jerry Lovelocke QB Prairie View A&M
Justin Manton K/P Louisiana-Monroe
Aundray Walker OL USC
Terrence Magee RB LSU
Nick Easton OL Harvard
Kaleb Johnson OL Rutgers
Antoine Lewis CB Purdue
De’Ondre Wesley OL BYU
David Peterson OL JSU
Darryl Baldwin OL Ohio State
Lexington Smith DL Nothern Colorado
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2015-nfl-undrafted-free-agents
Actually Darius Allen looks to be a rush LB
I couldn't agree more. It's very rare that our IR stashes ever amount to anything.
But thats sort of like saying we shouldn't draft Bama players because they rarely work out. Just because it hasn't worked out yet doesn't mean it shouldn't be done at all. It's a good way to hang on to a developmental prospect without using up a roster spot, the problem is that developmental guys rarely work out regardless.
I think Camp may be the familiar face that has to go, guy's got talent no question but its all wasted if he can't stay healthy, which he can't. He may be IR'd instead
SSS, Perriman, Aiken, and Brown are pretty much givens (although the article the other day about Aiken and Flacco clicking may have cursed him)
I'm thinking Waller gets stuck in the practice squad or IR'd, that height is tempting but he's raw and could use a year to develop
Preseason is going to be rather important this year for decided which receivers we keep
SSS
Perriman
Brown
Aiken
Butler - I'm a big fan, good size, good speed, solid hands, i think that if he stays healthy he will make the roster
Carter - If Camp gets IR'd or let go then we need a slot guy. Carter is a sleeper, he looks really good and i think he could have some return ability
we could hang on to 7 WRs this year but i doubt it
Terry Williams, NT, ECU is still out there...we're lacking a true #2 NT behind B. Williams...
There has been a few undrafted free agents that have made something of themseves in a Raven jersey. Priest Holmes, Marlon Brown, Hurst from last year and Ellerbe I believe all these guys were undrafted free agent who got their carrers started with the Ravens. It is a good place to start your career. Harbs lets the guys truly compete too.
yeah we usually find at least one guy each year
He's also a punter.
I imagine thats why we brought him in, the fact that he can kick to is just an added bonus. He says he's most comfortable being a punter and KO specialist
heres an interview where he says that
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2015/02/five_questions_with_former_ulm.html
RB Domonique Hayden from Thomas More invited to camp on tryout basis
https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/594689276966739968
5'8" 212 lbs
i like him. 2000 yard rusher, 217 yds receiving. Good vision, nice speed, nice, wide lower body. I definitely think he'll make the practice squad (if we didn't have 3 that were likely to make the roster no matter what i would say he makes the roster). He reminds me alot of Alfred Morris
Another guy to look at is Xavier Williams, DT, UNI
Zach Hodges, Kurtis Drummond, Zach Vigil and my guy Henry Coley are all still out there
And I'm not seeing anywhere that a team has gotten him to sign as a UDFA
but that could mean one of two things, nobody wants him or everyone wants him and he's weighing the options
CONFIRMED: Former ULM P/K Justin Manton is heading to Baltimore to join the @Ravens after signing a FA deal! Congrats Justin!!!
little "competition" never hurt anyone
I'd hardly call Pierce a "contributor on game day" if anything he was a liability. With an Oline as good as ours was last season he was our only back who still struggled, it wasn't a mistake that he was a healthy scratch for one game. Lets go ahead and chalk him up to a lost cause, with the Forsett re-signing he was expendable, its very unlikely he would have made it to the regular season with Forsett, LT, and presumably a rookie, theres no room for him and he would have been cut anyway, him getting a DUI just expedited the process
I was saying the next two seasons, Yanda will be better.
well then i agree, but thats not the point I'm trying to make. Yanda should be better the next two years but Osemele won't be far behind and on top of those two quality seasons he will turn in multiple seasons at that level, like i said: its about both longevity and quality
Just because you're being sarcastic doesn't make you right. Might want to temper your attitude. You're far too myopic. You nor I know the course of what'll happen with him, so to suggest that anyone's opinion that he could play center and say there are no indications of it is wrong and I proved you wrong. We did try Shipley at center and we obviously let Gino play there. We're all entitled to our opinions. I have no problem with that. But to outright discredit the idea isn't right. Just be open minded. No need to be so definitive.
A random list of players who can snap doesn't prove anyone wrong, from the article you linked it was the author who suggested who DeCosta was talking about, not a direct quote from DeCosta. You ruin your own credibility when you criticize my attitude and in the same breath call me myopic. What i said wasn't wrong, Urschel has yet to play center and i have yet to see a direct quote saying that is what his future is, I'm sure every player on our oline could realistically play center and "snap" just fine, that doesn't mean thats where they'll be in a year or two.
I think it is assumed that Urschel is marked as the next center.
I will say that I agree that KO may be as valuable as Yanda at this point in their careers. He's pure beast and as pointed out is much younger.
not assumed by everyone, no reason to assume it. Saying he can snap isn't an argument, especially when the same cited article lists 3 others who we wouldn't want playing center in a million year (plus two of the guys are no longer with the team and the other spent all last season on the practice squad)
Yanda just came off his best year at 30, he wont be sharply declining anytime soon. I trust Yanda to give me two good years more than KO.
I disagree that this past year was his best of his entire career, come on lets be real, he had a fantastic season but the best of his 7 years is simply not true. Are you saying Yanda will be in the league two more years than Osemele or that the next two years will be better than Osemele? i cannot deny the latter and i havent tried to make a point saying otherwise, this is a question of longevity + quality. I believe its easily possible Yanda will turn in two better seasons than Osemele over the next two years but it won't be that wide of a margin. Osemele will turn in two very quality seasons plus multiple quality seasons after that while with Yanda we are talking only a few more seasons left total and theres no telling if he'll drop off after a year or two, some guys deal with age well, others don't, we simply don't know how he'll deal with it.
I knew this was coming and I was ready for it. I'll just quote Eric DeCosta.
Source: http://www.pressboxonline.com/2014/05/21/ravens-eric-decosta-i-knew-this-would-be-a-tough-season
i can snap too, can i play center? not to mention that also listed Shipley and Gino, would you want them to play as well? Also Jenson who just spent a season hanging out on the practice squad
Yanda has been on the field more consistently and at a higher level. Yeah K.O has more years left but will any of those years be similar to the years Yanda has put up? Not to forget KO has injury problems.
Yanda has had a fantastic career here in Baltimore but we are talking about the future, not the past. I don't know if Osemele will have a career on par with Yanda, not many have, is that reason to overlook his age? no. Osemele has emerged as one of the leagues best guards and he's young. Yanda is one of, if not the, best guards in football but he'll be 31 and will only get worse from here. Not to mention we don't have a clear cut replacement at LG like we do at RG, so this argument is not only "Yanda is old and Osemele is young" its about whats best for the line as a whole. Urschel is more than capable of taking over at RG, will he be as good as Yanda? probably not right away but he's shown to be more than capable of handling it. If we let Osemele walk, who will take over? move Zuttah from his natural position? plug in a rookie? the best solution is to go with the proven backup in Urschel
I agree with you from a FO stand point but there is something to do said for losing Leadership and Yanda was the best guard in football last year and will probably be a Probowler if not all-pro next year. Do NOT disrespect his game. Yanda has plenty left in the tank.
We gotta be loyal to our guys. Unless he wants an outrageous amount of money of course.
At what point did i ever disrespect Yanda's game? i said Osemele has more football left than him which is just a fact. As far as the business goes loyalty only gets you so far, as i said - we'd all love for him to stay but you have to think of the future and if the difference between their possible contracts is small then you have to go with the younger of the two. If Osemele is looking to become the highest paid guard in the league then obviously you have to go with Yanda.
I'm shocked that my choice of Osemele is against the grain here. Obviously the answer to the poll is to try and re-sign both but next man up is what we do. If it comes down to one or the other then its Urschel's time to step up at RG, there's been no indication that Urschel was ever drafted to be a center so can we stop stating that as if there has been any indication. Thats pure speculation like saying Webb should be moved to FS.
Osemele is younger and we have no clear backup for LG, at the moment at least, Urschel on the other hand is a natural at RG as we saw. Zuttah is under contract until 2019 so what is the reasoning behind moving him out of center? he's above average at center so keep him there for the remainder of his contract, no need to move him anywhere. Urschel had his tryout during the playoffs at RG and played really well, why throw him in at center when he's never played there at all? Monroe, Osemele, Zuttah, Urschel, Wagner is a fantastic line across the board.
Next man up, if Yanda wants another big pay day at 31 then let him walk, keep the young talent and let the aging vet go, Yanda will be 31 come next off season and will only get worse from here, Osemele will be 26, he's got a ton of football left, much more than Yanda does. No one wants to see Yanda go but this is a business, and there comes a time when you have to let the vets go to keep the younger talent, you all should know that by now. Nothing good comes from letting your roster get too old. By all indications Yanda is a team player through and through so we should be able to afford both next offseason regardless since we will be free from all the dead cap we have at the moment.
Aaron Ross came here because of Spagnuolo. He will possibly follow him as he's a free agent...
why did you put "..." on the end as if i didn't post before Spags was hired elsewhere...
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i never said it had ever worked out for us, i even explicitly stated "Just because it hasn't worked out yet"....