DefensiveMind

To clear up things. The Saints brought bats to the field in 2009 as motivation, nobody said anything. Panthers used the bat as a symbol for "bringing the wood". Second, OBJ got the star treatment and he's let the Madden cover and the fame get to his head. Notice how the Giants are doing anything to deflect blame to Carolina, finding anyway to justify what OBJ did and save face.

Saints didn't threaten players with their bats, to be clear. Panthers as a team are egotistical, showboating morons. I hope they lose their first playoff game. In fact, I hope it is a beatdown like the Colts got last season.

And obj isn't showboating before every single game when he puts on a show making all of those 1 handed catches and trick stuff.

thats what im saying, a player going into his 3rd year and he is struggling with just fundamentals this badly, i dont know if he can be saved. its almost like its a learning disability there. some players just cant make the adjustment to the pro's

@xxDarby What is crazy though is he only played 1 year at Tennessee, and smashed records. He may be more raw, but could the upside be higher/equal to Torrey? I don't think that Vikings offense was conducive to WR growth, he'd certainly have a shot to develop better here.

TDubbs he would have a good chance to develope here, but I just personally think he's too far gone. Maybe he dominated college because he run faster, jump higher, and out muscle others, but in the NFL athleticism is only good with technique. I just think his technique is so bad that he is unsavable

Monroe was a caualty and I hope he's the only one. First day and he breaks his leg. Wish him good luck

I like Brooks' potential but unfortunately, he's gonna be on the PUP for the 1st 6 games. Barring injury, it will probably be hard for him to unseat Lewis.

Sorry for the confusion everyone, I meat by the end of his 3rd year. Not next year.

If you look at records held, pro bowls, interceptions, TDs, passes defended, All pro, Reed holds the advantage in everything. All polamalu has is sacks, tackles and FF. We are talking safeties not linebackers.

And Chris Simms sucked so his opinion means nothing to me. The real question is ow many times did Ed pick him off

Ridiculous part is that Simms never even played the Steelers - not that he played that much, anyways. The one game where he played the Ravens, the 2006 opener, he threw three picks and a healthy 30.5 QB rating... one pick to - that's right - Edward Reed. The others were to Haloti (his first game) and CMac. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200609100tam.htm

I agree. Just like Jimmy, Elam doesn't lack the physical ability (aside from height) .. it's all about the mental game with Elam.

they forced alot on elams plate, any rookie would struggle with what hes had to do in his first 2 years, its only gonna make him better in the long run, if will hill is the rill dill, and our cb's step it up, then elam will finally be able to just play his game instead of overthinking everything and trying to be everywhere to help a busted secondary

Can't wait for tomorrow.......it should be a thrill to watch Will Hill! and of course, Matt.

Don't jinx Just say he will have time to throw the winning TD

Also, he'll have to average 260 yards a game the remaining 15 games if he wants to reach that 4k yard marker.

Get your game face on Joe, there's no time like the present.

I don't do fantasy football, but I say Joe's in the top 5 QBs this week.....monster comeback!

I agree that Webb has been a huge disappointment since his big contract but I think at a certain point you have to accept that corners get beat. There are only a handful of "shutdowns" and the rest of them will have their ups and downs, some more than others.

@sflegend89 What bothers me is how uncontested completions against him are.He doesn't even have the confidence to actually contest passes anymore.When a QB throws at him it's not really a case of if the WR will complete the pass,it's how much yac will he get.

He was close to picking of Vick this Thursday if I remember correctly. Broke on a route pretty nicely, but his play in general leaves a lot to be desired these days.

If any of you think doug baldwin is a number one caliber receiver or in the top crop of receivers in the league like he believes...then you may need to visit a doctor

I dont believe that Baldwin is a top wr. But who are u to tell him to not think otherwise. What should he do? Let the critics say he is a garbage wr?

The critics dont say he is garbage, they say he is average...which he is. Nothing wrong with keeping quiet and playing your role instead of grasping for headlines.

I wanted to make an account just to lose it, but the ignorance was so bad that it would be pointless. It's amazing to think that they can't just stop for a second and welcome these players to Ravens Nation. They're now one of us (sorta) and I'm sure we wouldn't appreciate it if that was anyone's response to us.

Exactly, these young guys are now a part of the team and should be welcomed and at least given an opportunity before people of their own fan base bash them. I'm sure though if these guys turn into pro bowlers or solid contributors, they will be the first to buy their jerseys. Much like Lardarius Webb a few years back.

Bashing the players and bashing the draft itself are two different things. The players could all be great - but if we don't stop ignoring offense and simply throwing hand me down vets & developmental players at it don't expect it to improve.

Sflegend89 they didn't even had the right picture of him on the pro bowl ballot

I'm a bit upset with the play of Timmy J

He's had a couple good plays in the last game. I expect(ed) more of him, but he's not bad. He'll get there. Brandon Williams is a monster though! Even with all the injuries all year, I've never heard anyone rant about letting Ngata go. Williams is the reason why.

Offense wasn't a problem in this game (33 pts) - sure it could use a little tweak here and there but it's only week 2.

But, how in the name of everything that's holy do you allow the Raiders to score 37 pts!?

@ DEN: ZERO O, fantastic D.

@ OAK: ZERO D, very good O.

What's going on with this team?

We need to fire Pees and hire a young up and coming DC ,that these guys will play there hearts out for. Pees personallity is dull and the D seems to take on his personallity .

So what happened from the first game where they played lights out?

Actually was just going off of immediate need in this status, but I do believe CJ is a better player than everyone I listed minus Lewan.

OLB is an immediate need?

That was more of a luxury pick

The guy actually was pretty jacked for an old dude, no Vince Mcmahon but not too shabby

You and Skip should do a side by side flex off

Skip Clueless

Also Steve Smith for, once again, being our leading receiver in terms of yardage/making critical plays.

Don't forget 5 sacks in an away game. Best of the season.

Shout out to Hurst and Urschel!

I don't think so we are lucky to get in; anyone face us in the wildcard round gonna be sweatin'....

No they wont. They will be torching our secondary

because our team as a whole always does terrible in the playoffs - /s

No, he hasn't practiced at all this week. Probably won't see him until week 3 or week 4

Yeah, I'm thinking between week 4-8. Depends on when he's cleared for field work. You have to ease him back in, considering the severity of the injury and how long they've held him out thus far.

Can't wait for him to play!

Where we're you when we won against PIT?

where were the ajustments and aggressive play calling like we had versus Pitt???? Nowhere. Nada. Zip. Pees played turtle. Sadly that is what he does 90% of the time.

All he needs to do is watch some vintage JJ vids and a dose of Steve Smith motivational tapes.

Ray Lewis would say Jacoby needs the touch of Ray Lewis ...

Congratulations to Ed Reed on your Retirement, Thank You from Raven Nation

hn68wb4 you are so right i looked at Monroe's game tape and he can make things happen he gets under people and moves them.

He had decent protection for the first 3 quarters

hes garbage and were stuck with him

Cheers lad!

and JO, easily in the discussion of best LT of all time, if he isnt the best then hes definitely top 3

I'm still on the RB bandwagon. Next year's class is fantastic, and last night I saw Forsett being awesome (albeit against one of the worst defences in the league), Bernard Pierce doing a whole load of nothing, and I believe LT not seeing a snap.

Can't wait to watch Blake Bortles torch our secondary