BmoreBird22

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    You completely missed the point and I don't even know what this reply is referring to! Harbaugh told the reporter that the staff is not set and he published it. Fact.

     

    I'm done trying to convince you that your rhetoric is flawed.

     

    Anyway! If we're going to discuss intelligently, Harbs implied that the offensive staff could be influenced after the OC is hired. Does anyone think Shanahan might try and bring his own assistants in? Based on some reports, I think he might. Some report said he liked to surround himself with his guys

    Let's hope he brings in a quarterbacks coach

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    But it didn't come directly from Harbaugh's mouth. you didn't hear it straight from him!

     

    Oh? But you believe the reporters when they say something you want to hear? Okay then...

     

     

    he said it in the press conference with ozzie and also at the end of the year when he defended him right from his mouth im moving on . fail again. :deadhorse:  

    Can we stop this dumb argument? We'll see what happens when it happens.

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    yes so which is it . Castillo stays as oline coach or the new Oc picks his own staff. My bet is Castillo stays regardless what the new Oc wants . I think the Oc can pick whom he wants as long as he doesn't touch Castillo.

    I think that's the way it is, and my guess is Harbaugh wants a guy like Shanahan who likes the ZBS to begin.

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    and your correct , John said it in his news conference  the only thing for certain is that Castillo is the line coach. I took that to mean no matter who they chose for oc that guy is stuck with Castillo .In all the threads its odd no one mentioned it until you did I thought I had heard wrong and listened again , neither of us heard wrong .no one does that what happens if the new OC doesn't like him etc etc....

    Harbaugh also did say that the coaching staff of the offense would be built around the offensive coordinator, no?

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  5. There are obviously some numerical things to knock Kirby on, but if he really is an Arians disciple that's a big enough mark against him as it is.  I've established my dislike of the Arians offense, and given the sorry state of the offensive line that's only going to make things worse.  It's another offense focused way too much on deep throws.

    I can't stand the Arians offense and never got how people could say he's a good coordinator

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  6. Surprised Kubiak was never interviewed he would of made sense logically.

    Apparently he was, but the Ravens don't release a lot if details. Harbs said he had interviewed as many as two candidates a day and several college coaches. How many did we hear about? Four. They keep it air tight

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  7. Have a feeling it will be announced on Saturday. Just so they can have more time to look things over, and hopefully weigh the pro's and con's out over the two. Decision probably on Friday night

    Let's hope that we hear soon. I'm getting so antsy to hear because I want to know whether or not to be excited for next season's offense or not.

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  8. I'm thinking that's what it was - they interviewed 4-5 guys we know of, trimmed the list down, and now are on their second round.  Kirby must have been impressive even though he was one of the last interviews.

      

    I'm thinking that they wanted to get the first round done, then bring back the finalists back for a second. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I think it's a good sign that Shanahan was called back first (at least for me, he's my choice). He's the only one that reports said had a "good interview."

    We know of the 4-5 finalists, but apparently there were like 2 candidates per day interviewed. Maybe it was just getting the first rounds out of the way.

    We heard Shanahan's was good, but we heard Wilson's went very well.

    I'm hoping getting the first call back means that Shanahan is the guy. I also hopes having all these guys come back within two days means we'll have a coach the Ravens want by tomorrow night or Saturday

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  9. You have no arguements from me there. Shanny is my guy and I think the fact that he was the first to get a 2nd interview says a lot. I'm willing to bet if Shanny did a great job today, he'll probably be offered the position.

    The thing that worries me is Kirby Wilson almost immediately got a second interview. Shanahan had to wait, but maybe that's because the coaches wanted to get all candidates out of the way. He was also the first to get an interview, that we know of, and well ahead of anyone else.

    Is Hostler's interview tonight the first or second?

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  10. And the fact that you used words like might and could makes my point of us just not knowing. People keep throwing the fact that a couple of players spoke out against him as some kind of daming blow or indication that he won't be good. Truth is we just don't know. For all we know the players in SF never meshed well with him to begin with and if you don't have confidence in the play caller the offense won't work. So if they never had confidence in him and things went bad over the first 5 games, those guys probably gave up. We don't know.

    I agree there are several unknowns, but it's not like that offense was totally devoid of talent. They had some solid offensive lineman (not all, but three at least), a young Vernon Davis and Frank Gore who had over 1600 yards. The scary thing is that every player dropped off in statistics and they went through like four quarterbacks.

    I'd much rather have Shanahan who turned Schaub into the leading NFL passer, Matthew slater into a 1000 yard rusher, didn't he turn arian foster into the leading rusher? RGIII was also the second coming of God and even when he was hurt, he was top 10 in offense. Not to mention Morris coming out of nowhere.

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    And Derrick Mason said he's a great coach and would make a heck of an OC, what's your point exactly. Someone has a negative opinion of him from 7 years ago, but his more recent and current players have a positive view of him. What does it all mean?

    It might mean he's more fit for a specialized role than one that accounts for all facets of the offense.

    Not all great coordinators make great head coaches. Same could be true here.

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  12. I keep hearing people say that Hostler might not be bad because he had a hand in helping the offensive game plan already, but given the fact that Caldwell was a first time OC, isn't it likely that Hostler had a huge impact on the offensive game plan? If so, we may already have a slight glimpse of what the offense would look like next year if Hostler is promoted. 

    No thank you. 

    That also deters me from wanting Kirby. He has no offensive coordinator experience, never had a run game in the top 10, and only two in the top 16 during his tenure, and it would be likely that Hostler would have a hand in the offense again. Not something I'd prefer. 

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  13. Playbooks can change, it has changed since Cam left, and Hostler can change it more.

     

     

    I think Hostler is a west coast kind of guy. He worked under Mike Nolan, who is part of the Billick coaching tree. Just based off that, I would think west coast. I don't know for sure, though.

     

     

    I get that, but we don't know enough about Hostler. The rumor is that Cam wouldn't listen to Hostler's suggestions, but Caldwell did, and our passing game improved when there was protection.

     

     

    Torrey hasn't improved? Sorry, that's incorrect. A lot of our WRs have actually improved, even Deonte Thompson. Even Derrick Mason is on record as saying Hostler is a good coach and he helped him learn a lot.

    He'd be an ED system guy if he coached under Bellichek tree.

    Also, the playbook stayed the same. Caldwell emphasized that, but said he added new wrinkles.

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  14. Starting to think Hostler was also a victim of poor personnel. San Fran had a second worst 36 fumbles and a third worst -12 turnover margin. They had four quarterbacks play that year: Dilfer, Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, and Chris Weinke. So, they had little talent or continuity at QB. The QBs were sacked a whopping 55 times combined, and Gore only averaged 4.1 yards a carry. From that, one can infer that the offensive line was an issue. His leading receiver was Frank Gore, who had 53 for 436. Vernon Davis had 52 for 509. Then they had this no name WR named Arnaz Battle who had 50 for 600 and an over the hill Darrel Jackson who had 46 for 497. That was Jackson's second last season, and that was one of just two seasons in which Battle met or surpasses 50 catches and 600 yards. 

     

    Hmmm... bad offensive line... bad offense... No receivers... where have I seen this before?

     

    Disclaimer: I am not saying Jim Hostler is good. I am only saying that in his only year as an OC, he had jack [profanity deleted] to work with. He literally had nothing to work with except for Davis and Gore.

     

    Maybe we fans should actually look deeper than the surface before we make judgments. Nothing is ever as simple as it seems.

     

    http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/statistics?season=2007&team=SF&seasonType=

     

    Lol this got negged? Just another hater. Get in line, bub. ;) Don't like facts, do you?

    I think what bothered people the most is the fact that Gore went from being the focal point of the offense and one of the leading rushers in the NFL to not used hardly at all. It also hurts your cause when players on your team call you out in press conferences.
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    I just asked about Shanny on another forum and a Redskins fan wasn't too impressed with his playcalling.

     

    He was at four of the games during their seven-game winning run in 2012 and felt it was more RG3's ability to extend the play that kept drives alive and won them games - although he was a fan of the zone run getting installed (so there's that).

     

    For this season, he felt Kyle wasn't able to call plays with their QB in mind and it got predictable to the point where defences would stack the box and either stuff the run or bowl through the o-line and sack RG3. And apparently he was too quick to abandon the run outright (Morris went for 114 yards in the first half of one game, and got three touches for the whole second half despite their being up by 10).

     

    So I guess there's a bit more elaboration on your downside. How much that was Mike's fault is something we as fans will never know. Although if the complaint is partly about RG3 being made into a pocket passer then the square peg may have found a square hole.

    I feel this is a wrong assessment, but that guy is a fan. 

    Obviously RGIII extending plays helped at times, but I watched many of those games, since I live in VA, and the read option and routes that Shanahan had the receivers run meant that RGIII always had a guy open. Shanahan tailored the offense to RGIII and it worked by giving him open receivers. Teams were forced to respect the run so much. RGIII had to run to be successful.

    When RGIII couldn't run, we saw the results. That offensive line wasn't bad, and I didn't see a total problem in play calling, just a lot of bad mistakes by RGIII. He's not a pocket passer and isn't very accurate, so not being able to always have an open receiver hurt him a ton. 
    That offensive line also was not that bad. It was actually one of the better offensive lines in the NFL. RGIII just had a problem with holding onto the ball and not getting the ball out when he needed to. 

    With Joe, he'd have a great pocket passer who can make tough throws when he needs to. Shanahan does an excellent job of tailoring the offense to his quarterback and getting the most out of them, as seen with Schaub. If he can be totally onboard with the ZBS (something likely required of our new coordinator given Castillo), maybe it'll bring Rice back to form. After all, he did turn a no name in Morris into a household name, for the most part. 

    I like the idea of bringing in his west coast offense. It allows the ball to get out quicker and Joe wouldn't get murdered so much. I'm pulling for him.

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  16. I'm not suggesting you do. Relatively sane people like us have a hard time guessing what the deranged may do. After all, did you see Kruger getting the money he got?

    Oh I saw it coming, but I didn't think it was worth it at all. I remember all my non Ravens friends talking about how great he was or how much the Ravens were going to miss him. I was always just like, "Seriously?" And they were. I guess that must be how it is for other teams when they view Ravens players.

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