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31 minutes ago, purpletide said:

OK. I though I remembered hearing something that could make us not pick him up, but not too sure that takes him off our list.

I think if the Ravens wanted him, they have Woodhead, Weddle, and the new OL coach to all give a very complete review of King and the type of player he is. 

So, generally I do my mocks where I'll write up a really long breakdown of each player and why I think the Ravens will take them, but the breakdown seems redundant with the several threads we have. If anyone has a question about what I see or what I like, just tag my name and I'll be more than happy to answer.

Round One: Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

Mike Williams is my current top receiving prospect and it's been that way since last year, so why would I have him going at 16 to the Ravens? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Mike Williams went in the top 10, but I think Tennessee is the best bet in the top 10 to take him and they have more pressing needs on defense. I would have also thought the Eagles would have gone WR, but with the recent signings of Torrey Smith and Alshon Jeffrey to pair with Jordan Matthews, Nelson Agholor, and Dorial Green-Bechkham, I just can't see them targeting a receiver. Other teams to watch may be Arizone (whom I expect to go QB) or Buffalo (whom I expect to go DB), but we shall see.

I think this is a great year for the Ravens to land a top tier receiver in the draft. I think this will finally give Joe the true number one receiver that he's never truly had to grow with (Perriman pending). If Perriman works out and Williams reaches even half of his potential, the Ravens would have an excellent wide receiver duo that's actually young for the first time in Joe's career. That's a big deal. If the Ravens want Joe playing better than he did last season, they've got to surround him with weapons and they can make that happen with the 16th overall pick.

Round Two: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington

The prognosis on Jones' achilles tear isn't horrible, but there's still a very good chance he misses a good portion of the 2017 season. If you aren't able to play day one as a rookie, you're going to drop in the draft. Remember Aaron Colvin? He tore his ACL in Senior Bowl practices and went from being a first round talent to a fourth round pick by the Jaguars. Given that Jones only tore his achilles and should recover quicker, it may only drop him a round or two. 

Fortunately for the Ravens, with the recent signing of Brandon Carr, the necessity to have Jones be ready day one has been mitigated. He can take his time and fully work back to being fully healthy and not be rushed into immediate action.

And on the bright side, the Ravens really wanted Marcus Peters back in 2015 and Jones works out routinely with Peters and seems to have taken up his aggressive, gambler attitude that makes Peters such a dangerous corner.

Round Three: Pat Elfein, OC/OG, Ohio State

The Ravens wanted to get bigger, stronger, and nastier up front and not put as much focus onto players with finesse and fancy footwork. Luckily for the Ravens, Elfein has a great deal of core and leg strength to spark a run game and has a wrestling background that gives him a leg up in man to man blocking schemes. He's bigger, stronger, and nastier than Zuttah and might be the reason the Ravens haven't actually gone hard in on a center in free agency. 

In addition to being an exact fit for what the Ravens want to do offensively on the line, Elfein is also the most pro ready of any of the interior day prospects. He's the exact type of prospect that can come in and immediately be solid in pass pro, but really kick start an offensive line and the running game. 

He's also an excellent leader with relentless work ethic. He's just a match made in heaven for the Ravens. I would fully expect a trade up (maybe use that sixth from the 49ers), but since this is a mock, I'm not going to be doing any trades.

Round Three: Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston

He's not going to be the immediate answer that most fans are looking for at pass rush. He won't be a strong run defender and he might not even be a day one starter. However, Tyus Bowser will be an early starter in his career and he will be an impact pass rusher. He's just too athletic and too good in space to not be good. Bowser has also shown excellent improvement from 2015 to 2016. He's just scratching the surface of his potential and due to not blowing the college game up, he might fly under the radar by scouts who don't really dig deep into their prospects.

He doesn't give an immediate Suggs replacement, but he does give an immediate Doom replacement.

Round Four: Taylor Moton, OT/OG, Western Michigan

If I'm being honest, I'm not sure Moton ever really makes it out to right tackle, but he can still be a replacement for Marshal Yanda down the road. 

This pick, again, goes back to wanting to get bigger, stronger, and nastier up front. Moton isn't the most athletic, but he's extremely thick and extremely strong. If you watch him against Ohio State in 2015, he just moves around the defensive line of Ohio State like they're little boys. He's going to be a road grader and a player who will have his way with his man when lined up with a hat on a hat.

Round Five: Sam Rogers, H-Back, Virginia Tech

Everyone gets one homer pick and this one is mine.

Rogers may not be a very well known prospect because he played fullback at Virginia Tech, but he's essentially a Juice clone. If the Ravens want to bring back in a strong lead blocker who can run the ball and catch the ball (and even throw it from time to time), then Rogers is the guy to target in this draft. And he's white, too. It'll be like Juice never left!

Rogers was an incredible leader with excellent work ethic for Tech and functioned as a jack of all trades for Tech. Just plug him into the offense and tell him to go to work. He'll do it all without a single complaint.

Round Six: Rayshawn Jenkins, S, Miami

Jenkins isn't the new age type of safety that teams gravitate toward with the ability to be a single high player, but he does fit well with what the Ravens may be moving toward after the signing of Tony Jefferson.

Jenkins has only average speed and instincts to be a single high safety, but has enough of both to be a two high safety. He's big, strong, and long and will punish players and make them think twice before catching the ball. That's more than enough to ask for when considering he'd be a sixth round pick. 

Just now, purpletide said:

I think I heard that Dunlap has DV in his past am I mistaken?

I don't think it was DV. He broke a restraining order from an ex. 

I think I'd rather take the chance on Clady, but Dunlap has experience with the current OL coach, so there's that.

31 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

You know I am a fan, could be really good early if he goes to the right team

My nightmare is him going to NE and pairing with Gronk.

Homer pick aside, I think Hodges is the best receiving tight end in the NFL draft. He's 6'7" fast, explosive, and aggressive. He runs excellent routes and is a terror up the seam. The only area you wish he'd improve is those 50/50 balls. He'll make the tough grabs, but needs to get that vice grip for those contested balls.

Hey, we're all allowed one homer pick, right?

2 minutes ago, -Truth- said:

I've seen little of McMillan but I liked the small bit that I've seen. I've seen Tabor mocked in multiple 1st round mocks. While the Combine numbers raised concerns, he likely represents rock solid value in the last pick before the 3rd round.

I think the second is where Tabor ultimately goes, but he has such amount of high potential

1 hour ago, KentuckyProud said:

There's a big difference between where you could see someone going and where you think they will actually go. Can't really factor that into a mock otherwise every team would have 3 possible picks. If he is taken before the Bengals I will be shocked. Just curious who your top 3 is...

Garrett, Foster, Adams

7 hours ago, The Raven said:

I mean, they've developed quite a few Pro Bowl guards (Yanda, Grubbs, KO) so I can see it. They might be on to something. KO had the exact same problems his rookie year that Lewis had. Pad level and mobility. 

This was actually my major area of concern for KO following the playoff run. I didn't think he moved well enough to the second level or identified second level blocks well enough. 

Of course, I'm not expert on the line and that clearly turned out wrong.

5 minutes ago, KentuckyProud said:

Top 3 talent has nothing to do with it. I don't think Foster is even in question until pick 9, and the potential suitors for Foster could easily pass on him for a more ideal position. If we end up going Davis/Williams then I would be just as happy. I think those are probably the best three that could end up at 16

Top 3 talent has everything to do with it if a team values talent over need, which is a really good way to do it in the top half of the league. I could very well see the 49ers take him. I could see the Titans take him, Jets, and Bengals as top 10 teams that could use a talent like him. 

Plus, again, the combine incident is way overblown and has no effect on his draft stock.

42 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

Also, JPP signed a 4 year $62M deal with the Giants, with $40M guaranteed.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000793684/article/jason-pierrepaul-signs-4year-62m-deal-with-giants

JPP signs after tweeting out about how he hadn't signed yet and the NY media was fake and not correct.

The combine incident won't drop a top 3 talent that far because from everything players and scouts have said about the incident, it's truly no big deal.

Just now, rmw10 said:

I'd guess we were looking for multiple years at that price, and Claiborne chose to bet on himself again.

That was my thought process. Probably around the same contract that Carr got with a series of options after every year.

Interestingly enough, the Jets got Claiborne on a 1yr/$5M deal. 

Have to wonder what the Ravens really offered for him.

45 minutes ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

I may be mistaken but, wasn't Carr the nickle corner while in Dallas?

You would be mistaken. Scandrick plays the slot and Carr always started.

So, apparently the Seahawks would be willing to trade Sherman for a very sizable haul.

So, question. If the Patriots allow Butler to sign with NO, does NO give up pick 12 or pick 32?

I think Adams goes in the first to Atlanta IRL

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

apparently there's an option at the end of the first year as well - essentially its year to year

Yes, that's why I said every year...

23 minutes ago, SepticeyePoe said:

How much is his contract?

4yr/$24M with options every year. Very easy to get out of after two years.

Morris Claiborne was one of my top prospects in 2012 and I still think he can be a top corner in this league, but health is such an issue for him. 

If the Ravens didn't have Jimmy Smith consistently getting dinged up, I think they'd have gone for Claiborne, but could you really risk two starters going down for four plus games a season?

I really like the veteran addition of Carr. A solid, if unspectacular player.

2 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

They did indeed pay dividents but keep in mind, all of the players you listed really lit it up in college. No C in this class is as physically gifted and NFL ready as the likes of Pouncy and Mack. 

I'd have to agree. I don't want a center in the first. I'd grab Elfein in the third, but he's not the nasty, physical player the Ravens want. Just not the Ravens year in the draft.

1 minute ago, Alexir said:

Nick Mangold is washed up, did you see him play last year?

Last two years, really.

I don't think people watch the Jets, so they go off of the name more than the player's play.

I just can't think that the Ravens don't have something up their sleeves with the Zuttah trade. 

They just restructured Pitta (I understand it was a needed move, anyway, but still) and they trade Zuttah six days into FA without making a corresponding OL move. That's really weird to trade someone that far into FA when most big names are off the market and you have no contingency plan. 

They clearly liked Zuttah enough to hang onto him and not let him go early to get a good jump in FA, but why wait so long? Unless trade negotiations really took that long, but given the price, I doubt it.